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Created by pierrec45 > 9 months ago, 4 Mar 2012
fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
7 Mar 2012 9:03PM
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onefoot said...

That sail far right, middle of the picture with the boardnose in the water: is that sail transparent? is it already monofilm? or whatelse material? As far as I know monofilm came early 90s.


guessing its a custom regatta sail made with some sort of scrim mylar.

Waiting4wind
NSW, 1871 posts
7 Mar 2012 11:18PM
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My Tencate Spacer with home made alu boom should be in that picture somewhere!

nosinkanow
NSW, 441 posts
8 Mar 2012 1:32AM
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Like in real estate, notice the more money you pay the closer to the water you can get with more room around you!! Most of the fibros (Wally's) seem to be shoved to the back and packed in like sardines.

I was taking piccies at this event and had my first glimpse of the PanAm, it was jaw dropping gorgeous. I sold my Sailboard Free (Fun?) 3 years or so before this event, it looked like the third board down from the top right of the pic (except it was red/blue stripe). Squared off tail, twin fin, footstraps and flat top sail not too dissimilar to todays sails. I dragged (it was heavy) this down into Longy and jumped my first wave on it....and got rescued by the Dee Why rubber ducky coz I didn't know how to waterstart and I was getting perilously close to the rocks at their end. Yes I drifted that far and was buggered. It was too rough to uphaul! The shame.

Fark they were good times.

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
8 Mar 2012 8:27AM
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nosinkanow said...

Like in real estate, notice the more money you pay the closer to the water you can get with more room around you!! Most of the fibros (Wally's) seem to be shoved to the back and packed in like sardines.

Huh I thought they had different starts between 1D and Open, ergo the packing.
No ?

nosinkanow
NSW, 441 posts
8 Mar 2012 9:17AM
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You could be right about classes, Grant or Al might remember...fellas?

Dunno if it was this event or the Dash for Cash ones but some of the boards at the front had their sails suspiciously moving when no others were just before the Le Mans style start starting gun went off.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
8 Mar 2012 11:16AM
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Waiting4wind said...

My Tencate Spacer with home made alu boom should be in that picture somewhere!


Des, mine is still on top shelf in garage

I'll bring it down to Botany one day (prob only good for a SUP!) for old times sake & see if we can put a sail on it

Chris 249
NSW, 3334 posts
8 Mar 2012 11:31AM
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Hey, nice to see a pic of me and my first D2!

Stubbies, obviously, because that was the event with the triangular sail sticker, but I can't recall the year. Looking at the sail I had, it could have been '85. That mylar sail on a D2 some have commented about could have been Robert Nagy from France, multiple world champ. He won from Lach Gilbert, then Jess Crisp or Rob Howard and me.

Does the bigger version of the pic show any other D2s? Their insignia and number could help ID the year.

The Open Class went first, then the One Designs. That was why the Wallies are at the back.

"was taking piccies at this event and had my first glimpse of the PanAm, it was jaw dropping gorgeous."

That reminds me, I must clean up my Naish custom version of that board; obviously I'm biased but I think it's the most beautiful board ever made! :-)


ka43
NSW, 3075 posts
8 Mar 2012 1:28PM
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Definitely 84. Definitely Stubbies marathon. Open class went off first, D2's, Pan Am's etc.
then One designs, Wally's, Mistral Super Lights etc.
I think the Open guys had disappeared by the time us poverty pack sailors got off the beach. I certainly saw them on their way back, sigh!!!!!!!!!!!!

robhow2
NSW, 56 posts
8 Mar 2012 2:00PM
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Chris, probably was a 1984 event, but definitely a Stubbies marathon was held in January 1985. The two photos are from the the 1985 event, pre race.
In January 1987 it was called the Mirror Marathon and I won that on the OD.








timford
NSW, 510 posts
8 Mar 2012 5:05PM
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love the frigate in the background

Haircut
QLD, 6481 posts
8 Mar 2012 8:51PM
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blokes hairdo's have come full circle

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
9 Mar 2012 1:16AM
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Looking at those pics, esp. the 1984 or 85 one, it just amazing the crowds we used to get then - Bbay, Narrabeen, Wanda, Balmoral. Those who haven't lived those years cannot easily imagine how sparse (?) the sport is now...
Nowadays, it's an event when a new guy picks it up at the local beach.

Anyhow, Rob great pics of Manly, sure no questioning where it comes from this time.

springsdorf
WA, 4 posts
25 Mar 2012 10:14PM
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Can small modern sails be used with wallys? Any need to use footstraps, because I've
noticed in most photos they are missing?

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
26 Mar 2012 2:22AM
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C249 knows better, but the modern wally - same dimensions as the old one - sells with a modern rig, and sails just fine of course.

That's the beauty of this particular old board.

oldie2312
NSW, 3 posts
17 Apr 2012 9:29PM
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Great to stumble across this photo - and funny to see Chris249's D2 right in the centre. I was in that race somewhere on his Cobra Race with a soft Gaastra 6.8 - bad choice - should have used my D2 rig with so much upwind work in the light breeze.

A fun and funny day, at the first mark logjam you could have walked 20m without getting your feet wet!

So many summer Sunday afternoons at Palm Beach looked almost like this - coming back in from a sail and not being able to find any vacant beach - hard to imagine now.

choco
SA, 4032 posts
18 Apr 2012 11:33AM
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robhow2 said...

Chris, probably was a 1984 event, but definitely a Stubbies marathon was held in January 1985. The two photos are from the the 1985 event, pre race.
In January 1987 it was called the Mirror Marathon and I won that on the OD.











The sad thing is if you got all the flat water sailors in Australia now they would probably just match the numbers of sailors in the pics

kato
VIC, 3400 posts
18 Apr 2012 9:56PM
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springsdorf said...

Can small modern sails be used with wallys? Any need to use footstraps, because I've
noticed in most photos they are missing?


No problems using a moden sail on a wally and you don,t need footstraps

Dad and daughter with a 7.5


landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
18 Apr 2012 8:43PM
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e0422713 said...

windrush where r they now???

same factory

PhilSWR
NSW, 1104 posts
18 Apr 2012 11:06PM
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kato said...

springsdorf said...

Can small modern sails be used with wallys? Any need to use footstraps, because I've
noticed in most photos they are missing?


No problems using a moden sail on a wally and you don,t need footstraps

Dad and daughter with a 7.5





Nice shot and memory Kato I have plans for pics like that with my kids -now 6 and 9 respectively. I'll have to track down a big old board for those light wind days for some sand flat cruising with the kids.

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
18 Apr 2012 11:16PM
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Anyone know what the big long green board in Rob's photo is?

robhow2
NSW, 56 posts
19 Apr 2012 11:09AM
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fjdoug said...

Anyone know what the big long green board in Rob's photo is?


Testing the memory bank on this one, but here goes. It's a home made dual rig open class 'board' that belonged to the guys at SBS (Snow Business Sports) sailboard shop
in Sylvania. Daryl & Paul ran the shop in the 80's but it no longer exists there now.
A heavy & cumbersome 'sailboard' that never lived up to its potential. Had a turning circle greater than that of the Manly ferry !
Not entirely sure, but it may have also competed in the various Peter Jackson events
that were run in the 80's for what is even in to-days money very large cash prizes.
The single sail 'dart' type displacement boards were the ones be on in those events.

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
19 Apr 2012 6:56PM
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I recall two brothers from Newcastle(?), Marcus and Lucas(?) turning up at a Peter Jackson with an oversized D2 and a rig that looked like it belonged on a skiff. The mast had a track that the sail slid up and cleated at the top, just like on a skiff. Not sure how they got it out of the water.

oldie2312
NSW, 3 posts
21 Apr 2012 2:28AM
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Seeing the reference to 'home made' booms - we used to 'Progrip' the 32mm straight tube and lash one end to a Volkswagen front bumper, then just bend it around. I guess it was 6063 to be that soft, but they worked fine - and the ideal curve to fit our Reef ends. Making gear was normal - fun times.

AUS4
NSW, 1255 posts
21 Apr 2012 8:30AM
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There is a Porsche, sail number 34934 with the dark windows down the bottom above the Aussie flag. I think it was a Turbo.

pierrec45 said...

Found out me mum was keeping old wall calendars, you know, Woolies, flowery stuff, etc.
Going through old ones, found this gem from the days of yore in a calendar called "Sydney from Above".

Trivia for you'z: when, and occasion ?
Sure shows the popularity of the sports in those days...




pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
21 Apr 2012 9:19AM
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You're right, that's the Porsche sail, can't see the board though.
I've never seen a Porsche sailboard in Australia.

AUS4
NSW, 1255 posts
22 Apr 2012 12:40AM
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The board is under the sail.

pierrec45 said...

You're right, that's the Porsche sail, can't see the board though.
I've never seen a Porsche sailboard in Australia.


AUS4
NSW, 1255 posts
22 Apr 2012 12:52AM
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AUS4 said...

The board is under the sail.

pierrec45 said...

You're right, that's the Porsche sail, can't see the board though.
I've never seen a Porsche sailboard in Australia.







AUS4
NSW, 1255 posts
22 Apr 2012 1:13AM
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I cant believe someone tried to sail a Mistral Take Off ( centre of picture ) in that race.
Plenty of Mistrals there, M1, Superlight, Club, Take Off, Maui, PanAm,

AUS4
NSW, 1255 posts
22 Apr 2012 1:25AM
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Yeah Doug, Mylar all the rest are Dacron 3.8 oz, same weight sail cloth as a Laser sail.... somethings never change.

fjdoug said...

onefoot said...

That sail far right, middle of the picture with the boardnose in the water: is that sail transparent? is it already monofilm? or whatelse material? As far as I know monofilm came early 90s.


guessing its a custom regatta sail made with some sort of scrim mylar.



fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
22 Apr 2012 7:44AM
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AUS4 said...

I cant believe someone tried to sail a Mistral Take Off ( centre of picture ) in that race....


and looks like his mate beside him has a Windrush Storm10, couldn't imagine he got too far on that...



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