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The Perfect Carve

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Created by ginger pom > 9 months ago, 8 May 2010
ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 May 2010 5:58PM
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This clearly isn't one but I'd be interested to see a video of what people think is perfect. It's not me by the way

x sport guy
VIC, 110 posts
8 May 2010 6:42PM
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Someone posted this here a while ago...... dunno if its perfect but it looks pretty sweet to me

lao shi
SA, 1313 posts
8 May 2010 6:13PM
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www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=33774&whichpage=1
Here it is

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 May 2010 7:50PM
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x sport guy said...

Someone posted this here a while ago...... dunno if its perfect but it looks pretty sweet to me




Very nice

It's good but it is light winds and strap to strap.... he's pretty in control so much so that he doesn't have to move his back hand back... and though his knees are bent, they're not really bent

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 May 2010 7:57PM
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something more like this (at 0:35)

ejmack
VIC, 1308 posts
8 May 2010 8:34PM
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I like Antoine's gybe at both 1:30 & 2:55. Doesn't show the whole gybe but nice all the same....

Nice control through the chop. Makes it look so easy.

izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
8 May 2010 8:59PM
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certainly in light winds strap to strap seems to be good, i was trying it today.

choco
SA, 4075 posts
8 May 2010 8:55PM
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izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
8 May 2010 9:40PM
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if you want the perfect jibe here you go, this by Jacques van der Hout its a 28.48 alpha 500m



agrelon
51 posts
8 May 2010 7:47PM
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This one is pretty insane. The guy is using a really light sail on an iSonic, and the water is super flat so he has everything going for him but still, you can see how effortlessly his sail comes round.

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
8 May 2010 10:15PM
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agrelon said...



This one is pretty insane. The guy is using a really light sail on an iSonic, and the water is super flat so he has everything going for him but still, you can see how effortlessly his sail comes round.


without wanting to be a gybe nazi, but 12 seconds to 15 seconds aren't perfect.. he doesn't move his hand up to the boom and when he catches it his bum doesn't look cool...

I'm not saying I can do better but if we're judging out of 10 for style like olympic gymnastics then...

kato
VIC, 3437 posts
8 May 2010 10:33PM
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x sport guy said...

Someone posted this here a while ago...... dunno if its perfect but it looks pretty sweet to me




Looks like a little old Victorian man that i know who can turn a board around

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
8 May 2010 10:52PM
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Jez - lets see this tomorrow!

jermaldan
VIC, 1572 posts
8 May 2010 11:11PM
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K Dog said...



Jez - lets see this tomorrow!


I was just thinking the same!!!

Bender
WA, 2226 posts
8 May 2010 9:32PM
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Is this the "Elder Statesman" from the SRM

I would recognise that classy gybe anywhere

snides8
WA, 1731 posts
8 May 2010 11:12PM
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Bender said...



Is this the "Elder Statesman" from the SRM

I would recognise that classy gybe anywhere


Hey oh bent one....you should recognize the board in this pic?
It's yours!

h20
VIC, 456 posts
9 May 2010 10:50AM
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Ginger pom the answer is easy. I'll show you on our next sandy sw trip.

In fact I'll show you all day.

Rail pressure and modulation is the key. The board will turn it's self and will feel effortless. Usually you will find you exit speed is greater than the entry speed because your riding the rail rather than the whole deck which offers more resistance.

Other key is to exit well before the 180 degrees. So gybe to 130 ish. Speed up. And come back to your entry point as a cross cross about 50 metres. On some days you will still see the wake.

Goo Screw
VIC, 269 posts
9 May 2010 11:45AM
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choco said...



This one looks pretty,although I notice he keeps pointing down wind a lot while he is flipping the sail to maintain board speed and then down wind a bit more after that - this kills alpha's and puts you downwind of the field and often at a disadvantage in a slalom race.
I would take a guess that the strap to strap job by The little old victorian would be a hell of a lot tighter and a faster Alpha.

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
9 May 2010 11:52AM
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what's all this alpha stuff and graphs?... it's not about a to b to a

It's about form and style

agrelon
51 posts
9 May 2010 10:03AM
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ginger pom said...

agrelon said...



This one is pretty insane. The guy is using a really light sail on an iSonic, and the water is super flat so he has everything going for him but still, you can see how effortlessly his sail comes round.


without wanting to be a gybe nazi, but 12 seconds to 15 seconds aren't perfect.. he doesn't move his hand up to the boom and when he catches it his bum doesn't look cool...

I'm not saying I can do better but if we're judging out of 10 for style like olympic gymnastics then...


Yeh, I agree. He sort of jumps around when he switches the feet. He can get away with it cause he's on super flat water.... also the he doesn't go boom to boom on the rig flip. But I guess this shows that you don't need flawless technique to plane out of jibes... just good conditions really.

agrelon
51 posts
9 May 2010 11:40AM
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The jibes Guy Cribb does are fantastic, definitely close to perfect.

Roo
826 posts
9 May 2010 3:17PM
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Here's a 26 knot alpha video.

dotsub.com/view/cf554882-9ce5-4a42-bdef-406dc09b813f

kato
VIC, 3437 posts
9 May 2010 6:52PM
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ginger pom said...

what's all this alpha stuff and graphs?... it's not about a to b to a

It's about form and style

Izaac does some nice one handed lay downs with flair

izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
9 May 2010 7:17PM
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kato said...

ginger pom said...

what's all this alpha stuff and graphs?... it's not about a to b to a

It's about form and style

Izaac does some nice one handed lay downs with flair




izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
9 May 2010 7:19PM
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ginger pom said...

what's all this alpha stuff and graphs?... it's not about a to b to a

It's about form and style


sorry just goes to show go in fast and out fast, that way you know you did a great carving jybe.

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
9 May 2010 8:03PM
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nah, it just means you came in fast and went out fast...

You can do that with unbeautiful technique..

If you watch the alpha video above (and watch the sailor rather than the numbers at the bottom), the board wobbles on the way out. He goes strap to strap but not in a super cool way.

izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
9 May 2010 8:35PM
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ok well the smoother the board goes around the quicker it will be.so if the board went around smooth the technique would of been good.

hooray
QLD, 335 posts
9 May 2010 9:06PM
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Another frenchman who can carve-jibe, and he lives in Qld. Go Julien.




Goo Screw
VIC, 269 posts
9 May 2010 10:11PM
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ginger pom said...

nah, it just means you came in fast and went out fast...

You can do that with unbeautiful technique..

If you watch the alpha video above (and watch the sailor rather than the numbers at the bottom), the board wobbles on the way out. He goes strap to strap but not in a super cool way.



A small tight one always looks better than a big loose one[}:)]

x sport guy
VIC, 110 posts
10 May 2010 9:11PM
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Can someone explain to me the difference between "strap to strap" and any other gybe, to fullfill my noob curiosity............... and why as Izaak said it may be better in light wind

izaak
TAS, 1993 posts
10 May 2010 9:55PM
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i was trying strap to strap jibes in light wind the other day and it did seem to be better due to it seemed to make the board more fluent threw the turn and stayed on the plane better as i flipped the sail over....it might of just been me but did seem to work.might have to see what Andrew D says about it.



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