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The new trailer on the block

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Created by moondo > 9 months ago, 26 Oct 2010
Mark _australia
WA, 22344 posts
30 Oct 2010 7:02PM
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^^^^

Too hard. Snips are a pain unless the waste side is really narrow and you can roll it up as you go - else the edge on the side you are keeping gets warped.

Alternative - cut it with a thin blade in the angle grinder


after sticking on with Sikaflex then the water won't get to the cut edge (I guess that is what Evets meant by sealing the edges after cutting?)
but if really worried about it buy 1/2 inch aluminium angle and glue that on all round the corners

moondo
VIC, 134 posts
31 Oct 2010 10:18AM
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kato said...

evets said...

Picked up my sheet and rivets today, just need a nibbler and I am on my way!

Don,t use a nibbler, use straight snips (Gilbows) not the serrated type.
Glue the sheets on with stickaflex or buthal mastic and then use ally rivets. Make sure that you use lots of good paint and that you have a way of re treating the inside of your steel work. Any folds that you get done get a safety fold done on the edge. Good luck




Evets, It is going to be heaps easier to paint after a few hot dayson the trot. Painting cold steel can be a pain. Also I used sign writing panels 0.75 mm.

Mark,... Some pics of your trailer please. I've seen Kato's trailer and can say with all respect that he has useful knowledge in the field. Pics Pics Pics?

snides8
WA, 1730 posts
31 Oct 2010 8:01AM
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evets said...

Great trailer Moondo. Mine is at the point where I need to clad it ( see photos in my profile)
I wonder if you can help with some bits I have been trying to get right!
How did you cut the sheet? Did you seal the edges after cutting? I am wondering how to paint them without making a mess of the plastic! Did you use aluminium or steel rivets?





hi Steve
as you know my trailer is ali
i used a ali cutting wheel on a 125mm grinder..the cut is 1mm wide i had to cut the doors out of the middle of a sheet so this ended up being the best way.
clamped the sheet down using a steel piece of angle that also provided a straight edge for the wheel to cut against.edges where claeaned up with a light file.
if you use snips or nibbers you will distort the edge of the sheet slightly.
as i used ali sheet ali pops where the go.
as for sealing between the sheet and frame..
i used sikaflex..this was a mistake better would be adhesive foam that coach builders use.

Mark _australia
WA, 22344 posts
31 Oct 2010 11:59AM
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moondo said...

kato said...

evets said...

Picked up my sheet and rivets today, just need a nibbler and I am on my way!

Don,t use a nibbler, use straight snips (Gilbows) not the serrated type.
Glue the sheets on with stickaflex or buthal mastic and then use ally rivets. Make sure that you use lots of good paint and that you have a way of re treating the inside of your steel work. Any folds that you get done get a safety fold done on the edge. Good luck




Evets, It is going to be heaps easier to paint after a few hot dayson the trot. Painting cold steel can be a pain. Also I used sign writing panels 0.75 mm.

Mark,... Some pics of your trailer please. I've seen Kato's trailer and can say with all respect that he has useful knowledge in the field. Pics Pics Pics?


I have posted pics of it in the last couple of trailer threads so can't be bothered. It will be in my profile pics if you are that motivated to see it. It is not pretty anyway because it was made with all free materials so sure you won't be impressed
No insult to Kato, yes he knows what he's doing, but for people who have not done sheet metal work snips can be really difficult if you are trying to cut up the middle of a 2400x1200 sheet and they will be be disappointed with the result thus I recommended a thin blade in the angle grinder

kato
VIC, 3398 posts
31 Oct 2010 8:01PM
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DON,T CUT Sheet metal with an angle grinder !!!!!! It will heat up the zinc coating under the paint and start rusting. The best way to stuff a sheet. A slow speed jig saw with a metal blade if you need to use power

moondo
VIC, 134 posts
6 Nov 2010 8:36PM
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A few more pics. All the gear in after a huge 4 day weekend.


Warren Francis
NSW, 206 posts
6 Nov 2010 11:28PM
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Hi

I think i'm up to 7 trailers, eventually found it easier to buy a beach and have the gear permanently rigged up!

Rgds

Warren

RAL INN
SA, 2884 posts
7 Nov 2010 9:43AM
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While we would happily build you guys a trailer only limited by your imagination and wallet.
below are some small details for your information.




Use Sikaflex 252. also when using Polyurethane adhesives on painted surfaces and especially powdercoated (which is Colorbond) you need primer so that in six months time or less you don't turn up at the beach with a naked trailer.
Use Sika primer 210T.
Take to the plastic nozzle of the glue tube and shape it so you apply it with a 4-5mm high peak, this ensures you get a full seal when pressing on the panels.
hold panels in place with duct tape till cured. One of the main reasons for using PU is for a reduction in Bi metal corrosion which in a salt water environment is worse. using rivets or screws defeats the advantage of the glue in this respect.

forget nibblers, too rough an edge and hard to use. Snips are fine just never cut to very tip of snip blades.

Good luck. get the wife to help, and god help you. It'll take all three to do it properly.

DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
8 Nov 2010 9:00AM
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Its not that fancy , but it does the job. and it was cheap!.

Standard box trailer, bit of paint, $100 worth of steel, and some marine vinyl and a few stickers.



moondo
VIC, 134 posts
8 Nov 2010 6:42PM
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Nice work DrJ. Simple but effective.

actiomax
NSW, 1575 posts
12 Nov 2010 9:08AM
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the best thing for cutting sheet metal is a metal cold saw blade, bunnings sell them around $100 put in your circular saw and stop thin sheets from flexing as this chips the teeth and the blade will last a really long time and give you a perfectly clean cut free from burrs that has not burnt the paint . Certainly lasts longer than 10 grinder blades at $10 ea so it is economical its also good for cuting all the other steel for the trailer or aluminium just wax the blade .

nosinkanow
NSW, 441 posts
12 Nov 2010 1:07PM
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If you're building a trailer from scratch, in NSW anyway, build it to box trailer or platform stage first then register it. My home built box trailer at 6.5' x 4' weighed in 3kg over the lowest rego weight fee (it has car leaf springs so is heavy for its size), the nice RTA man said to remove the tailgate and have it weighed again ($25 back then). It did the trick. Otherwise you will pay approx $150 per year compared to $53. That's a saving of nearly 3 cartons of beer!

Once registered go crazy and build a great monolithic enclosed box on top of it with heavy duty internal racks as it then won't affect rego. I have 3-4 family cars, 1000cc road motorcycle and box trailer to register annually, it adds up so any savings is good.

BTW I use a Falcon Nibbler attached to a drill to cut sheet metal, I'm no tradie so it gets used infrequently and is handy to have, does a good job as sheet edges are flat and the edges aren't sharp so handling is much safer. Noisy bugger though, wear ear plugs!

FormulaNova
WA, 14629 posts
12 Nov 2010 12:56PM
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nosinkanow said...

If you're building a trailer from scratch, in NSW anyway, build it to box trailer or platform stage first then register it. My home built box trailer at 6.5' x 4' weighed in 3kg over the lowest rego weight fee (it has car leaf springs so is heavy for its size), the nice RTA man said to remove the tailgate and have it weighed again ($25 back then). It did the trick. Otherwise you will pay approx $150 per year compared to $53. That's a saving of nearly 3 cartons of beer!

Once registered go crazy and build a great monolithic enclosed box on top of it with heavy duty internal racks as it then won't affect rego. I have 3-4 family cars, 1000cc road motorcycle and box trailer to register annually, it adds up so any savings is good.

BTW I use a Falcon Nibbler attached to a drill to cut sheet metal, I'm no tradie so it gets used infrequently and is handy to have, does a good job as sheet edges are flat and the edges aren't sharp so handling is much safer. Noisy bugger though, wear ear plugs!


Do you remember what they weight categories are?

I will try and look it up, but if you know first hand, it would be good to hear.

jamesf
NSW, 992 posts
12 Nov 2010 5:01PM
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I was just looking at this the other day:

www.rms.nsw.gov.au/roads/registration/index.html

Trailers (including caravans)
- up to 254kg $56
- 255kg to 764kg $153
- 765kg to 975kg $232

Its a big jump between a 240 kg box trailer and a 300 kg enclosed motorbike style trailer.

Cheers
James



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