Im starting to think that using too much downhaul on a mast that was too stiff / long was why the mast went yesterday..ok it was 2nd hand but no worries ever before..Also would that cause the sail to feel dead..powerless & uncomfortable?
I was using a 430 in my 5m 2005 Sailworks revo that says it needs a 400. Ive always used that but never used enough downhaul before. I had the leech loose several panels down yesterday..
It is very unlikely that too much downhaul caused it to break. Unless you were going for broke with a winch and even then you would more than likely tear the sail before you broke the mast.
I have broken a few masts, and the one non-formula mast I broke I noticed a crack in it a few days before. I wasn't surprised at all when it broke, and it was under almost no tension as I had only started to rig the sail.
The correct mast can make a big difference to the way a sail rigs. It can make it too full or it can make it too flat, both of which will end up feeling bad. The bend-curve can make a big difference as this varies a lot between brands.
yes I agree the pressure from downhaul is not really what would make the mast fail. In general carbon fiber is very brittle and even a single impact on the mast can break or weaken the fibres. In the past there was a lot of trouble with new mast breaking due to transport problems until most manufacturers brought in padded bags.
Sometimes you never know when you mast has sustained a hit and it's general not while sailing. Mostly it's from dropping it while getting it out of the car etc.
The other reason is usually too much force on the boom clamp or the clamp is load the mast in one point and either wearing away the mast or compressing it while sailing.
i see from a previous post that yours broke at the ferrule. these masts are incredibly resilient in flexing through downforce, so I doubt it split simply because you put too much downhaul on it. more likely the mast had developed a weak spot from accidental impact. while the mast can withstand being bent to an alarming degree (well past what an aggressively downhauled sail can), give it a sharp blow with a ball peen hammer and you can easilly shatter it.
Have a look at this mast under unusual load...
www.peconicpuffin.com/the_peconic_puffin/2010/07/mast-stick-in-the-soup-good-photo.html
Sounds logical but it has really turned me off whinching down as hard as yesterday..esp as any mast I have is 2nd hand..
i have snapped a few masts and am fairly certain that they broke due to miss treatment out of the water.
If you are going to invest in a new or second hand mast and want longevity from i would highly recommend RDM, have not snapped one yet.
Mast will bend, i was fairly impressed when i saw the photo below of the flex in my mast purely from pumping.
I had a rigging accident last week. Snaped almost new 400cm RDM, I used it only few times :(
It was my fault, I downhauled it and it seemed a bit hard to pull, then I heard a snap. It broke at the bottom on the top half of the mast, I guess when I put it in my sail, it separated a bit and I didn't notice.
Thank god I bought it on closeup for just 100€ and that I had a spare.
I believe it wouldn't snap otherwise, because it was very flexible mast.
If the two halves aren't properly together then its pretty likely to break. Makes a lot of sense to tape the join using electrical tape as it's easy for the halves to come apart a little while you're rigging. Plus it keeps the sand out so it doesn't get stuck.
If you get a RDM =Reduced Diameter, they are definitely stronger.
The smaller diameter trades reduced response (the ability to bend back to their original shape after being deflected) for greater strength. That my understanding of why they are only available in the smaller sizes, where the pros outweight the cons.
I broke an old mast the exact same way, the ferrule undid and I didn't notice. When I downhauled it felt tight and I just gave it more pressure and then heard a crack.
Nowadays I never rig up unless I've taped the joint.
if you are a lazy bugger like myself,feed mast thru sleeve without tape, when thru sleeve nearly to top of sail go to boom cutout and push mast up from LOWER section of 2 piece mast , first checking that mast is properly joined.
the mast then cannot come undone as you are pushing bottom section all the way to top,it's pushing the top section of the mast up the sleeve that's when it separates.
^That looks as if it has had tape around it to hold together an existing smaller crack at the edge.
i have had masts start to develop a crack in the same spot and to prevent and wrapped a couple of sheets of fiber glass around it to stop it ending like yours did.
i broke my severne enigma mast at join the other day,disregard my original post and always use tape.