^^^ where is that quote from?
We need to be sure that what he means is where the kite does a loop, but the rest of you is still pretty stationary and upright (ie: not a loop) and 'slider' means the same as what all the 13 y/o's do on a rail and my local skatepark... right?
It's a no win/d debate! May have thrown this perspective at it once before on here....unless you do or have done both its a bit hard to make comment IMO
Pretty much comes down to your local conditions, to what sport is better....here in Sunshine coast we get crappy 10-18 knt on shore sloppy waves that are extremely sweep effected, and very shallow water ways,,,,**** for windsurfing, great for kiting...we also have big wide open beaches little crowds so its great.....
I windsurf still and prefer it..first choice always, .but conditions dictate that I kite more than sail...thank god for kiting keeps me on the water...downwinders are the best...
but..if I lived in Gero or somewhere warm and really windy I'd only windsurf, can't see the point in kiting in 25+knt winds.. Beach and crowd access is an issue also and kiting simply can be an issue for all, just the amount of line space on beaches , bystanders , hazards like trees. Power lines etc...windsurfing is still doing so well in Europe , they just don't have space on many of their beaches for kite launching etc...saw the same in Maui in the resort areas, small beaches big crowds...no problems launching a sail, massive issues for a kite (kites are band in some spots) have to go to dedicated kite beaches...
There's stuff you can do easily on a kite that just can't be done windsurfing, and it is easier..in fact I don't get any sort of a workout kiting unless I don a surf downwinders for at least 2hrs. Windsurfing upper body much harder workout, their is always a dark cloud in your head kiting also, you know your always attached to a kite that if it decided to do something crazy could easily kill you or others...so you are always on guard especially during launch and landing.
I like the buzz of windsurfing in 20knts much better, and the workout, I hate the gear side of windsurfing..kiting is much less equipment specific and lasts longer, so it's much cheaper ....travel wins also for kiting.
IMO if you do both you get the best of both worlds when it suits...throwing SUP for no wind at all and you have it all covered....reality in this part of the world is you need all three toys to ensure some regular decent water time! Kiters that bag windsurfing probably tried to windsurf and found it too hard....they should take history 101 and look behind the names and brands of much of the kite industry.....everyone knows them....all from windsurfing...and before that the windsurfing crew were often from sailing....etc etc...don't here windsurfers bagging sailors...? for some reason that is hard to explain the % of idiots that kite is much higher than windsurfers...you only need to see the amount of avoidable kite accidents for evidence of that, they place both sports at risk of the nanny police!
And the all the old windsurfers have gone kiting argument...fair bit of truth in it...a) often conditions suit kiting better b) it easier on ageing bodies!... But the high is better windsurfing... It just is.....
Doesn't matter what you do, just do it....
Any advance on where the stats came from...
It would be terrible to just bumble into a conversation with some figures that you got off the bloke in the kite shop. I mean.. Only a retard would do that
I think we'd all be interested in genuine stats about the sports though.
We seem to have this topic in some form every year which always seems to go way off topic...
I have never seen a thread with so many misconceptions or misquotes from people who think they can comment on sports they have only watched with a few exceptions of those who have done both. Me, I have sailboarded for 30+ years and kite boarded for over 10 years.
Locally we used to have a large crew of sailboarders, many more of the crew have given the sport away after many many years than have changed over to kiting. I can only think of 4 who changed over, none have changed back, I am the only one who still does both.
It's like cats and dogs, some people only like cats, some only like dogs no matter have cute and cuddly the other may be and they will never understand the other opinion. Me I love both cats and dogs.
Kites were made for kids! windsurfing is heaps better at least we don't need a boyfriend to pull our sails up unlike you kitey kids
I dunno it was pointless - Underoath reckons more people left windsurfing to go kite, than who took up windsurfing. If that is true it is pretty sad.
I for one do promote kiting.
I do a fair bit of teaching windsurfing, as a private.
I gauge the student early - if they're into "gee, it looks to difficult" or "I don't want to work too hard", then I send them to learn kiting.
With kiting they still get to go out in the arvo rather than play computers all day - kiting as good as any. Everybody wins.
What ever floats your boat I reckon!
Having windsurfed from my first attempts in '79 with a wooden boom, I thought it was the best thing in the world through the 80's and 90's. I thought I had it almost mastered but looking at what is done nowadays at the top level - it's amazing!
However since starting kiting 10 years ago, I've only windsurfed about twice. I don't miss it at all, as kiting still gives me the buzz that windsurfing did for almost 25 years.
Kiting is about as easy as windsurfing is, to completely master every facet in waves and flat water - nearly impossible!
Glad you agree KotP,
A good non biase report by Hausey who has done both,
and is not seeing mushrooms and dragons.
That is just strange, but as Micheal Franti says, "All the freakie people make the beauty of the world"
One is not better than the other, but the one buzzing the most without mushrooms and dragon dreams is,,,,,,,,yawn,,,,I couldnt be bothered anymore
We have all seen the photos of you that prove differentlol
Dont be scared kotp,
you will fit right in with those girly scarfs you wear around your head. lol
Whats good for the ^^goose^^^^.
Oh phew,,,thank god your all right Markie!
I have been searching the hospitals and ringing the police. I was worried something had happend to you.
I had made several posts with out you stalking me and thought the worst.
Nice to have my shadow back.lol