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Created by ikw777 > 9 months ago, 4 Oct 2011
barn
WA, 2960 posts
6 Oct 2011 7:42PM
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Stuthepirate said...


Mate, the only van you should get is a Holden Panel Van.
Lots of steel, reliable and friggin' cooool.
Never late with a 308


Just cause it has loads of steel does not make it safe.. In reality all old cars pre-crumple zones are death traps...

In a crash, give me a Holden Astra over a Sh!tbox Panelvan..


'Classic Not Plastic' VS. 'Plastic Fantastic'..


Stuthepirate
SA, 3589 posts
6 Oct 2011 10:45PM
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barn said...

Stuthepirate said...


Mate, the only van you should get is a Holden Panel Van.
Lots of steel, reliable and friggin' cooool.
Never late with a 308


Just cause it has loads of steel does not make it safe.. In reality all old cars pre-crumple zones are death traps...

In a crash, give me a Holden Astra over a Sh!tbox Panelvan..




I thought this was a conversation about vans not holden astras

barn
WA, 2960 posts
6 Oct 2011 8:32PM
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Stuthepirate said...

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I thought this was a conversation about vans not holden astras


Well, why did you plug a holden panel van? Just a ute with a canopy, which has exactly the same front end as the sedan and wagon.. It's nothing lika a van.. The point I was addressing was the claim that more steel is somehow better...

(It's also easy to edit out the youtube from my post so videos don't show up twice)

Stuthepirate
SA, 3589 posts
6 Oct 2011 11:36PM
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barn said...

Stuthepirate said...

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I thought this was a conversation about vans not holden astras


Well, why did you plug a holden panel van? Just a ute with a canopy, which has exactly the same front end as the sedan and wagon.. It's nothing lika a van.. The point I was addressing was the claim that more steel is somehow better...

(It's also easy to edit out the youtube from my post so videos don't show up twice)


sorry mate i didn't mean to take up too much space. all fixed.
btw if you had read my other comment you might have noticed that i'm in favour of not having bull bars on cars. the Panelvan comment was meant to be a bit tongue-in-cheek. Modern cars have proven to be more safe to occupants and pedestrians alike. i'm not arguing the fact.

Stuthepirate
SA, 3589 posts
8 Oct 2011 11:46AM
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This video raised a few eyebrows at work.
Just shows how far we have come in road safety.
Alot of this is directly from the racing industry's push for safety.

uncrate.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
8 Oct 2011 10:58AM
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Stuthepirate said...

This video raised a few eyebrows at work.
Just shows how far we have come in road safety.
Alot of this is directly from the racing industry's push for safety.

uncrate.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/


Great vid, it really does show the advances in vehicle safety. It says a lot for wearing seatbelts. I couldn't see any sort of restraint in any of the crashes. The clip showed nearly 30 and in over half the driver is clearly ejected or partially ejected.

Mark _australia
WA, 22343 posts
8 Oct 2011 11:06AM
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Chris6791 said...

Stuthepirate said...

This video raised a few eyebrows at work.
Just shows how far we have come in road safety.
Alot of this is directly from the racing industry's push for safety.

uncrate.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/


Great vid, it really does show the advances in vehicle safety. in over half the driver is clearly ejected or partially ejected.


Wow car safety has come a long way if we have ejector seats.
Probably only in flash euro models I guess. ??
I must go down to the big smoke and check them out

Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
8 Oct 2011 2:19PM
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^^^ Nice edit.

But its an interesting idea, just eject the passengers straight up in a high speed crash, just have to hope there are no overhead objects.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
8 Oct 2011 7:26PM
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Stuthepirate said...

This video raised a few eyebrows at work.
Just shows how far we have come in road safety.
Alot of this is directly from the racing industry's push for safety.

uncrate.com/video/vintage-race-car-crashes/


Fair few deaths in that lot. I had to stop watching.

barn
WA, 2960 posts
8 Oct 2011 6:25PM
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Life sure was cheap for those early race drivers.. Amazing how those open top cars just ejected the driver.. We have come along way, although that technique is still used by Motocycles, which haven't progressed at all....

Here is the best head on crash ever between a reinforced Chevy Nova 'Stunt Car' and a Honda(?).. Don't ever drive with your leg out the window.

Mark _australia
WA, 22343 posts
8 Oct 2011 6:35PM
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Chris6791 said...

^^^ Nice edit.

But its an interesting idea, just eject the passengers straight up in a high speed crash, just have to hope there are no overhead objects.


I like the one in Demolition Man (Stallone movie c.1993?) where the car instantly fills with foam that hardens ........ but they never seem to end up asphyxiated?



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