Hi, I might buy a waveboard and have a play around in the waves.
Whats a good volume to start with for a lardy one who is 95kgs?
Does volume matter as much with wavesailing as it does for normal sailing?
As a rule of thumb:
Body weight + Rig weight + 10kg = Volume of board.
The windier it is the smaller the rig and board you can use.
The bigger the waves the smaller board you can use. You just need to be able to get out past the waves.
In marginal winds more sail and volume is the only way to go.
I've been using this link and it seems to be pretty accurate
jimbodouglass.blogspot.com/2010/11/updated-windsurf-calculator-online.html
If it's windy it won't matter what size but like most places on the east coast we have gusty conditions with some big lulls so I'd aim for something at least equal to your weight if not bigger. The smaller the board the more easy it is to turn and control when in the air, I ride a 115 from sub 10 knots up to fully planning conditions and I'm quite happy to stay on that size all the time but switching to a smaller board turns up the fun factor when the winds up. You can try mine if you visit Gerroa, I've got a 115,102 and 93 in wave boards that will give you a good idea of how they will float and the 125 should be ready soon as well
Cheers.
Select to expand quoteStuthepirate said..
As a rule of thumb:
Body weight + Rig weight + 10kg = Volume of board.
The windier it is the smaller the rig and board you can use.
The bigger the waves the smaller board you can use. You just need to be able to get out past the waves.
In marginal winds more sail and volume is the only way to go.
I'd add to this that you would always use bigger boards for wave sailing than you would for the same wind range on flat water. Even when it's it's blowing 25 knts many wave spots have little wind in the area where the waves are breaking.
At 95kg I would recommend you'd get a 100+ litre board (probably 110 would be ideal). There have been some good 100 litre wave boards around the past couple of seasons and some manufacturers are now coming out with even bigger boards. Some worth mentioning:- Fanatic Quad 101 (could be a bit small for you though)
- Starboard Nuevo 110
- Fanatic TriWave 103 (also a bit on the small side)
- Goya Custom Quad (104 and 118)
- OES Wave Custom (various size eg they do a 110, 115 etc)
Perhaps a good start would be to test a board first or buy something used. Windsurf and Snow have a Fanatic Quad 101 on test. In regards to sail size try to stick with a sail in the 5.6 to 5.3 range to begin with. Some bigger guys swear on 5.8 and 6.2 sails. Personally I don't feel you get that much more range out of them and the additional weight of the sail usually kills the fun factor.
Some good spots to start are Gerroa and Wanda (on a smaller day). Both spots break over sand so if you jump off you won't cut up your feet. Plus there are always other wave sailors around happy to share some tips.Keep an eye out for the NSW Wavesailing events (nswwavesailing.org). They often run wave clinics along side the comp.
I've got a 112 OES quad (someone elses custom I bought second hand) and its great fun in borderline conditions - plenty of "float and ride" capability and easily uphauled (I'm 88kgs) - at 95 Kg's it woul be a breeze they're a wave board and are prettty handy in the surf - dont be put off by the volume - quote Rob Michado "foam is your friend" - it also handles a lot of wind and as good a size wave as we get to sail locally
It works really well with a 6.2 blade - they're light responsive and certainly have a planning advantage over a 5.5 (not sure why people are scared of anything over 5.6 in waves)
Here's a couple of the new versions (I Think JH 2703's 110 is the photo one in the smack quad)
The big new Goya looks sweet as well - Good luck in your quest
www.oesaustralia.com/2013-meth-quad/http://www.oesaustralia.com/2013-smack-quad/
Hi,
I posted that video before but, here is a great wave board for heavy people, 101L or 111L Exocet Xwave thruster 2013, I use it as a light wind board for me, but it could be a great heavy weight board, the thruster set up is faster than a quad and got more controle than a twin, and it still turns sharply even with me as a lighter weight guy (75kg) and it can handle from 4.2m2 to 6.8m2 for the 101L. Extremely stable in gusty wind too.
Oh, I read it as "someone heavy" - 95kegs is lightweight!
I'm a whisker over 110kegs & ride a 116 S3, although I'm yet to get perfect wave conditions. Using that formula, I'd be on my lightwind board (129lt), and I wouldn't want that in the waves.
I agree that on the East Coast you don't want a sinker, although if you want to have fun in the waves when the wind is up - you'll want to keep the board as close to the limit as possible imo.
100L plus, and start with a FSW.
Going from a freeride or slalom board to a waveboard is a massive shock when you realise how draggy it is and slow to plane ........ and then how twitchy and loose it is once planing. And that is on flat water! Combine that with contending with shore break, current and proper waves etc etc.....
Best to just get something a bit looser but still planes a bit earlier than a waveboard and tracks better. Once used to that then think about waveboards if the spot is riding - oriented.
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100L plus, and start with a FSW.
Going from a freeride or slalom board to a waveboard is a massive shock when you realise how draggy it is and slow to plane ........ and then how twitchy and loose it is once planing. And that is on flat water! Combine that with contending with shore break, current and proper waves etc etc.....
Best to just get something a bit looser but still planes a bit earlier than a waveboard and tracks better. Once used to that then think about waveboards if the spot is riding - oriented.
You reminded me of the one time I tried sailing at Geraldton. All I ever take to WA is slalom boards and cammed sails. Let me tell you, it was no fun trying to water-start a cammed 6m sail in the waves at Geraldton, and once I got up, the board was on fire and was scary fast.
Next time, I will be trying a wave board, or something less slalomy, and a wave sail!
My last trip up there it was on. I was 100kg, on 80L and 4.0 and really struggled to hold it down.
So yeah I'm hearin ya
But nice to see all the skinny ones who were out the day before in 12-15kn taking the p!ss out of us larger folk, having to sit it out
Hey Dale,
If you can try a Fanatic Freewave 104 or 105 (different years). They get up and go, are pretty quick and do a decent job of having a go at waves. Also jump unreal and will get you home if the wind backs off (we are on the east coast, sigh)
I use mine with a very old 6.2 wave sail and its bloody good fun.
They were such a good board Fanatic didn't change the shape for a few seasons.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Larko.
Select to expand quoteka43 said..
Hey Dale,
If you can try a Fanatic Freewave 104 or 105 (different years). They get up and go, are pretty quick and do a decent job of having a go at waves. Also jump unreal and will get you home if the wind backs off (we are on the east coast, sigh)
I use mine with a very old 6.2 wave sail and its bloody good fun.
They were such a good board Fanatic didn't change the shape for a few seasons.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Larko.
Thanks Larko. Is 104L enough, or do you have to sail the things underwater when there is no wind?
Is cost an issue for you? Only that larger volume wave boards, say 100lt & up, are either custom order
or kept as a light wind back up for a lot of sailors (in Sydney anyway) & there aren't many used ones
around.
.
I've had so many years on waveboards about 80lt when I could only plane on a wave on the way in that
it was quite stupid.
.
Got a larger waveboard soon after I had to swim in from Long Reef about 2km out in the semi-dark a
couple of seasons ago. Spooky.
No-one has mentioned the Quattro LS Quad 110. I'm 82 kg and I use it for everything from cross on mushy slog and ride with a 6.0 Firelight to cross off logo high DTL heaven with a 5.3. I only switch to a 95 L quad if it is strong enough for my 5.0.
I have a 95 kg friend who also has one and he too thinks it is an exceptional wave board.
Select to expand quoteMark _australia said..
My last trip up there it was on. I was 100kg, on 80L and 4.0 and really struggled to hold it down.
But nice to see all the skinny ones who were out the day before in 12-15kn taking the p!ss out of us larger folk, having to sit it out
solution :
Select to expand quoteseanhogan said..Mark _australia said..
My last trip up there it was on. I was 100kg, on 80L and 4.0 and really struggled to hold it down.
But nice to see all the skinny ones who were out the day before in 12-15kn taking the p!ss out of us larger folk, having to sit it out
solution :
There is the next caption comp photo
" I am gunna take a ride on my big girl...."
Select to expand quoteseanhogan said..Mark _australia said..
My last trip up there it was on. I was 100kg, on 80L and 4.0 and really struggled to hold it down.
But nice to see all the skinny ones who were out the day before in 12-15kn taking the p!ss out of us larger folk, having to sit it out
solution :
If that board was 59 cm wide, she'd be hot...
