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Whats happening with Sydney wind?

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Created by slalomfreak > 9 months ago, 5 Jan 2008
slalomfreak
NSW, 304 posts
5 Jan 2008 10:39AM
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Whats happening,is this the worst f_g season ever or what??

shear tip
NSW, 1125 posts
5 Jan 2008 11:39AM
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Brien
NSW, 172 posts
5 Jan 2008 2:01PM
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Not by a long shot. I agree it has been pretty bad for wind late in the arvo if you work 9 to 5, but there has been plenty of wind in general. Just need to be able to take advantage of it when it blows, if you can.

yagon
NSW, 64 posts
5 Jan 2008 2:25PM
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Personally, I've had the worst season in 10 years. I've hardly got on the plane.

One's perceptions of the quality of the season is very dependant on time/availability.



Krusty
NSW, 441 posts
5 Jan 2008 8:09PM
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Theres been many an epic day that Ive mised this year because ive arrived too late. I blame it on that bitch La Nina, damn I hate her. At least she is making my garden grow very green.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:01AM
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Krusty said...
At least she is making my garden grow very green.


So true. The wind may not be consistent but at least the dams are filling up and we will not run out of water too soon. Precipitation is one thing we have which our WA friends miss out on.

Personally I have been sailing at Narrabeen and its been okay. Last week I sailed a couple of days on a north easter. One day was great and the other was alright.

I drove with my inlaws down to Wollongong and Gerroa today and it seemed fairly windy on Botany bay around 11am. A south easter but no one was out. I am looking forward to some more nor easters as I am keen to sail at Botany. Is a NE er stronger and more consistent down there?



seano
NSW, 150 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:18AM
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you might not go back to the lake if you go to botany
a NE is stronger & more consistent there - there's no hills to block the wind, although seems to arrive a little later in the day. Worth the drive if your going to make a day of it.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:30AM
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seano said...

you might not go back to the lake if you go to botany


Agree. You won't go back to the Lake after you've been to Botany for the N/E.

Other than that ...I don't care..as my board & gear are stuck up in Taree from New years day til next Fri .. blew a head gasket on car.

Went to first day of test cricket, though

and found a great windsurfing spot on North coast
3 km long x 250m wide, flat water, runs north-south

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:34AM
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Where was that run?


When windsurfing before, I always sailed a Nor easter on either the beach or close to it. Since my skills and fitness are down and living closer to Narrabeen I've been going there. However I never have experienced such gusty nor easters. I am used to gusty winds, having sailed Lake Illawarra in westerlies that were real light switch winds. Its not as much fun sailing in gusty winds as it in consistant winds.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:47AM
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Mobydisc said...

Where was that run?


Haven't sailed it yet.

will tell later & post photo[}:)]

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
5 Jan 2008 10:47PM
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I don't know about Sydney, but here in FNQ, 2007 was the worst season in 15 bl**dy years by far
Got my fingers crossed, good will follow bad

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
5 Jan 2008 11:00PM
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Used to have access to a beach house in Sydney, sailed at Botany Bay a fair bit so have that airport anemometer pretty well calibrated. Now, if I get out of Canberra it's to Broulee or Gerroa. I've got the nearest anemometers to those places calibrated also. But if you've driven for 4 - 5 hrs, and the wind wasn't quite there, and you check the seabreeze graph from Sydney airport when you get home, you come to the conclusion that Botany Bay has the most reliable good wind on this part of the coast.

Has anybody done a good comparo of the wind at Botany Bay vs up Newcastle way?

slalomfreak
NSW, 304 posts
6 Jan 2008 9:53AM
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Ian K said...

Used to have access to a beach house in Sydney, sailed at Botany Bay a fair bit so have that airport anemometer pretty well calibrated. Now, if I get out of Canberra it's to Broulee or Gerroa. I've got the nearest anemometers to those places calibrated also. But if you've driven for 4 - 5 hrs, and the wind wasn't quite there, and you check the seabreeze graph from Sydney airport when you get home, you come to the conclusion that Botany Bay has the most reliable good wind on this part of the coast.

Has anybody done a good comparo of the wind at Botany Bay vs up Newcastle way?


So right Ian.Have been up at Port Stephens in past years struggling to plane and checked Syd Airport reading to find it was 20-25 all arvo.Most reliable spot I know of.

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
6 Jan 2008 8:57AM
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Must be all that bitumen around Botany Bay. I shouldn't have understated Gerroa though. In a noreaster it's definitely a metre or more stronger than Botany. You can see from the air on the low level Sydney/Canberra flight, it's backed by a wide flat plain with a steep escarpment to turn the seabreeze circulation. But such a strong circulation also encourages more thunderstorms to stop things. Also when the front comes up from the south it affects southerly locations earlier in the afternoon.

At the other end of the coast I've spent a hundred or so summer days at Port Macquarie over the past 20 yrs. Always take my gear but only sailed half a dozen times. But then you hear of epic days at SW Rocks.

You can see I'm thinking of shifting.

laff77
NSW, 272 posts
6 Jan 2008 11:23AM
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This season sucks. I am going to wear out my 7.3 at this rate

Krusty
NSW, 441 posts
6 Jan 2008 12:35PM
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Kyeemagh is definately not the windiest place on the bay! Kurnell is always windier in NE'er. When sailing formula boards around they bay I would often launch at Kurnell in a NE'er and then sail to Kyeemagh. Every time Kyeemagh was at least 5knts lighter than kurnell.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
6 Jan 2008 4:19PM
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Mobydisc said...

Where was that run?


Here it is
Hope to have a go next Fri in a N/E



"Runs Nth/Sth. (from Sth end)
RHS is 200m wide shrub covered sandhill to surf.
Just over 1n.m. long, 2m+ deep in centre, sandy
E/N/E would be very good"

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
6 Jan 2008 8:23PM
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Is this on Wallis or Myall Lake?

slalomfreak
NSW, 304 posts
6 Jan 2008 8:41PM
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Krusty said...

Kyeemagh is definately not the windiest place on the bay! Kurnell is always windier in NE'er. When sailing formula boards around they bay I would often launch at Kurnell in a NE'er and then sail to Kyeemagh. Every time Kyeemagh was at least 5knts lighter than kurnell.


yes but Kyeemagh its not full of weed and kiters and if you can plane at Kurnell you can plane at Kyeemah
And Kyeemagh is great in a southerly whereas Kurnell aint.

Itch
NSW, 107 posts
6 Jan 2008 9:18PM
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Wineman is that near Smiths Lake

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
6 Jan 2008 9:43PM
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Nuh! [}:)][}:)]

Itch
NSW, 107 posts
6 Jan 2008 9:47PM
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Right it's a secret.

monster
TAS, 495 posts
6 Jan 2008 10:24PM
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you show me yours and ill show you mine

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
7 Jan 2008 11:34AM
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seano said...

you might not go back to the lake if you go to botany
although seems to arrive a little later in the day.


Gotta love those Botany Bay NE winds that don't come on until 5:30pm, but then blow to 7:30pm.

Let's me spend a day with the family, earning enough brownie points to also fit in a sail.

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
7 Jan 2008 2:52PM
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no worst, season had for a long time. and crap direction lots of easterlies, dead onshore no power behind them.

Itch
NSW, 107 posts
7 Jan 2008 11:11PM
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Speaking of Narrabeen Lakes I was windsurfing there with the family on New Years day and there was a guy out wide sailing with about 8m/8.5m sail for over 4hrs straight and this guy must of nailed every carve gybe.Wind was n/e and increased a little more in the afternoon.

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
8 Jan 2008 6:08PM
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Mobydisc said...

Is this on Wallis or Myall Lake?


Moby....here is a googlearth image of THE location
at Stuarts Point, near Macksville
cheers

the line is just over 1 Naut Mile

Brett Morris
NSW, 1197 posts
8 Jan 2008 6:44PM
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I'm must be wearing my polarized glasses too often, because i think it has been a great season. Hot and windy most days. Clearly not 4.5m sailing, but a huge amount of 7-9m days.... The bigger board / Sail development has made windsurfing possible 90% of the time. I actually prefer light to medium wind days to the super windy conditions i used to dream about a few years ago....

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
8 Jan 2008 9:31PM
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Wineman said...

Mobydisc said...

Is this on Wallis or Myall Lake?


Moby....here is a googlearth image of THE location
at Stuarts Point, near Macksville
cheers

the line is just over 1 Naut Mile



I know Stuarts Point quite well. I grew up at Macksville and we went fishing there a fair bit. I have never been windsurfing there. It never really entered my mind to go windsurfing there. I alway sailed on the Nambucca River, South West Rocks or at Valla Beach when I used to windsurf up there.

So you say in a north easter you will get a long run there? No need to keep Stuarts Point secret as its not likely you will ever see more than one person out their sailing. The big problem is if its a strong north easter then South West Rocks is a fun place to sail. However I wouldn't mind trying Stuarts Point sometime when I'm up there again.





sick_em_rex
NSW, 1600 posts
8 Jan 2008 11:03PM
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Hey Moby I just spent a week at Nambucca camping and I'll be stuffed if I could find anywhere decent to sail. The river current runs waaaaay too fast to make it safe to sail in it plus it's way too narrow and busy with boats plus all the sandbanks making it shallow as anything in the wrong tide. Did I not look hard enough or is there a secret spot I should have known about? There was no way I could get out in the ocean because the surf was basically mast high and a total washing machine. Not the best conditions for slalom sails and boards.
Pete what do you think Stuarts Point would have been like in a southerly? That's all it was blowing while I was there. Blew strong enough to rip my tarp to shreds and force me to come home 3 days earlier than planned

Wineman
NSW, 1412 posts
8 Jan 2008 11:33PM
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Southerly not good as runs due N/S

N/E espcially with a bit more E in it.
As Moby says, S/W Rocks in N/E



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