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Windsurfing Van

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Created by MrFish > 9 months ago, 1 Aug 2015
MrFish
180 posts
1 Aug 2015 4:27PM
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Anyone running the new Ford Custom Tourneo van. Looking for opinions on reliability and practically for windsurfing van. Heaps of seat configurations including total removal giving 3m storage length in back !

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
1 Aug 2015 7:16PM
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Are you in Australia? I've never heard of Tourneo and when I googled it, its not available here.

www.caradvice.com.au/162077/ford-australia-says-no-to-tourneo-people-mover/

We have Transits here and they seem okay.


pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
1 Aug 2015 6:29PM
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Really liked the look of the tourneo, but when ford said no to Australia getting it, that was the end of that. Much to the relief of the ever suffering delica..

MrFish
180 posts
1 Aug 2015 6:53PM
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Whoops. nope in NZ. Didn't realise you guys missed out on the multi seater.

So new transit customs then ? Or maybe a Hyundai iload or iMax or is yours called a i800.

Cambodge
VIC, 851 posts
1 Aug 2015 11:25PM
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pepe47 said...
Really liked the look of the tourneo, but when ford said no to Australia getting it, that was the end of that. Much to the relief of the ever suffering delica..



Am gonna replace my current Delica Space Gear with the new D:5. No equivalent even available in Australia for seating/storage options : (

MrFish
180 posts
2 Aug 2015 7:39AM
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Cambodge said..

pepe47 said...
Really liked the look of the tourneo, but when ford said no to Australia getting it, that was the end of that. Much to the relief of the ever suffering delica..




Am gonna replace my current Delica Space Gear with the new D:5. No equivalent even available in Australia for seating/storage options : (


I checked them out last weekend but just not long enough in the back. Only about 2.2m behind rear seats so a bit short for me.

pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
2 Aug 2015 10:09AM
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I like that Hummer look they have. Not the worst engine (mivec) and they've fixed the issues with earlier models. The price of an oil burner is going to put anyone bar Bronwyn bishop off. (around 60k). But, you're right with the problems about length. If you've got a board rack the sits in the back, you could nudge the boards between the seats along the middle but that's still only going to give you about 10cms at most. A rough average board, or even an average rough one is going to be around 235cms, still too short. Then if you've got a freeride, you can look at about 245-250.
I've looked at Chrysler grand voyager (about 10k more than what it compares with), Kia carnival (again too short), but both of them are on to something with the seats folding down into the floor. Any front wheel drive has the room as there's no tail shaft tunnel to worry about. The Hyundai I-load or I-max, but the rear seats don't fold down. Or, the transit van, but if you're turning right onto a divided road and sitting in the middle, there's no windows on the port side to look out!
So, for me it's back to the delica, knowing that if it misbehaves, I'll threaten to trade it in and she'll be good for another six months. The length of good behaviour is in direct proportion to how serious you are about trading it in, or just leaving it to rot by the roadside.

MrFish
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2 Aug 2015 7:08PM
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I like that Hummer look they have. Not the worst engine (mivec) and they've fixed the issues with earlier models. The price of an oil burner is going to put anyone bar Bronwyn bishop off. (around 60k). But, you're right with the problems about length. If you've got a board rack the sits in the back, you could nudge the boards between the seats along the middle but that's still only going to give you about 10cms at most. A rough average board, or even an average rough one is going to be around 235cms, still too short. Then if you've got a freeride, you can look at about 245-250.
I've looked at Chrysler grand voyager (about 10k more than what it compares with), Kia carnival (again too short), but both of them are on to something with the seats folding down into the floor. Any front wheel drive has the room as there's no tail shaft tunnel to worry about. The Hyundai I-load or I-max, but the rear seats don't fold down. Or, the transit van, but if you're turning right onto a divided road and sitting in the middle, there's no windows on the port side to look out!
So, for me it's back to the delica, knowing that if it misbehaves, I'll threaten to trade it in and she'll be good for another six months. The length of good behaviour is in direct proportion to how serious you are about trading it in, or just leaving it to rot by the roadside.


Thanks Pepe. Good writeup.

Ezric
NSW, 183 posts
2 Aug 2015 9:24PM
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If only there was a big, modern, square styled 4wd van. I have a LWB, high roof, Delica. Nice and long, 4wd's good, but I just wish they were wider like the modern vans. I can get 3 10 ft sups in but really only seat two in that configuration. I can get a 10"10 down the middle and still seat 4 plus loads of other gear with the back bench seat folded up. It has been excellent for family adventures as I can still get the toys in. We have had mountain bikes, or sups, or all the windsurf gear and all our clober in at the same time. I have a ply frame I can put in the back and put the queen matress on top, with storage underneath. It has been so handy but always want more space.

I got the first 120,000k's out of it trouble free and I have been claiming it the best car I have ever owned. Then I did the head gasket a few weeks back. I have replaced the head myself to save $ and was surprised to find it really wasn't that hard to work on like all the mechanics whinge about. However now I'm having issues cold starting it(praying its not the fuel pump). So my overall view on the car is still yet to be decided. Hope I can get it sorted soon as I'm missing all the space. At the moment I have to take the ute to the beach and try and pic one sail and board when I leave the house.

pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
2 Aug 2015 8:39PM
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Hey Ezric, have you tried warming up the glow plugs two or three times before you crank it?

Ezric
NSW, 183 posts
3 Aug 2015 10:23AM
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Hi Pepe
Yes I have thanks. I even replaced the glow plugs and relay and they are working perfectly. I dont want to take over this thread. I could write a novel on all the things I have checked and replaced. It will be a new van before I'm finished. I have a friend bringing over a scan tool this morning so hopefully that points to something cheap to fix/replace.

Mistral Nick
QLD, 370 posts
3 Aug 2015 1:05PM
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I had a look on line at Peugeot Partner L2, they seem to fit the bill with one of the front seats folded 3.2 M length available, not sure of reliability though.

pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
4 Aug 2015 11:32AM
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If I can't fit the boards in the back without moving the seats forward, I'm afraid she's not going to be too comfortable. I'd also like enough room to put it some sort of safety barrier. Apparently "wear it with pride, dear, it's a carbon art", is not a valid answer for a board glancing off the back of her head on its quick journey towards the windscreen under heavy braking.
The Hyundai imax comes to mind. Diesel, all around vision, and if you unbolt the seats in the back there's and absolute shipload of room. I say the imax only as the rear has insulation and sound deadening upholstery. Also the tailgate to the space between the front seats comes in around 250cms. I can hear wails of protestation coming from the Delica already..

patsken
WA, 708 posts
4 Aug 2015 1:45PM
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The I-Load crew 6 seater has all the sound deadening matting and headlining up to the rear of the back seat (non folding). The rear seat has 6 bolts that are a piece of cake to remove. The partition between seating and load is 2 piece and all I've done is removed the bottom half of it and put my gear diagonally across the load area. I've lined the rear roof section with ply and marine carpet and lined the floor with 10mm marine ply and rubber matting.

When I'm going away without rugrats it is sooo easy to remove the back seat giving the same as the I-Max load space.

I'm more than happy with it - now if Hyundai would only get with the times and give the punters a folding/split rear seat and cruise control !!!!

If you go with the Hyundai choose the diesel!

Haggar
QLD, 1667 posts
4 Aug 2015 4:56PM
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The I-Load crew 6 seater has all the sound deadening matting and headlining up to the rear of the back seat (non folding). The rear seat has 6 bolts that are a piece of cake to remove. The partition between seating and load is 2 piece and all I've done is removed the bottom half of it and put my gear diagonally across the load area. I've lined the rear roof section with ply and marine carpet and lined the floor with 10mm marine ply and rubber matting.

When I'm going away without rugrats it is sooo easy to remove the back seat giving the same as the I-Max load space.

I'm more than happy with it - now if Hyundai would only get with the times and give the punters a folding/split rear seat and cruise control !!!!

If you go with the Hyundai choose the diesel!


A friend of mine has just been researching iMax's and apparently you can rip out the back seats and put in Rock and Roll seats that can fold flat for around $2k. Sounds like a good option to me. Passengers or slide your gear under the seats or our put on top.

patsken
WA, 708 posts
4 Aug 2015 3:12PM
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Haggar said..

patsken said..
The I-Load crew 6 seater has all the sound deadening matting and headlining up to the rear of the back seat (non folding). The rear seat has 6 bolts that are a piece of cake to remove. The partition between seating and load is 2 piece and all I've done is removed the bottom half of it and put my gear diagonally across the load area. I've lined the rear roof section with ply and marine carpet and lined the floor with 10mm marine ply and rubber matting.

When I'm going away without rugrats it is sooo easy to remove the back seat giving the same as the I-Max load space.

I'm more than happy with it - now if Hyundai would only get with the times and give the punters a folding/split rear seat and cruise control !!!!

If you go with the Hyundai choose the diesel!



A friend of mine has just been researching iMax's and apparently you can rip out the back seats and put in Rock and Roll seats that can fold flat for around $2k. Sounds like a good option to me. Passengers or slide your gear under the seats or our put on top.


If you have the extra cash then I would think that the I-Max would be the better option but if the budget doesn't stretch that far then the I-Load Crew is a good choice for passengers or gear and camping.

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
4 Aug 2015 9:17PM
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Iload/Imax have tailgate height issues. Essentially, if you back up to the curb to rig up each time you go the reach into the van you're going to get a whack on the forehead. They need longer struts or something...

gmitton
SA, 1439 posts
4 Aug 2015 9:11PM
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Get a trailer?

JonesySail
QLD, 1100 posts
4 Aug 2015 11:50PM
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Imax windsurf edition, board/s or Bike down the side, seats 6, no issued with tail height unless reversed park down a slope and standing on higher ground? Back seats unbolts for a double bed behind first passenger seats when slid forward....curtains optional, no trailer required!

evilC
QLD, 677 posts
5 Aug 2015 12:08AM
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VW Transporter SWB, 5 seats. Two rear seats have quick release latch and pins to remove. $29,999 + options new.


JonesySail
QLD, 1100 posts
5 Aug 2015 9:59AM
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Nice VW set up Evil C, are they VW seats or aftermarket? do they fold flat?

If I was starting again I'd have my Van seats fold flatable..ready made bed then, have seen that done 2 x 2seaters flat back fold flat onto each other, instant bed.
My tribe is 5+me when running on max load need the double seats in back, so board/s have to be vertical for me, my SUP is 9ft 6 and nose sticks just between front seats, could go a smaller SUP if it ad the crew front seat option.

Down side with the Hyundai's is not only their lame seats (it really is a crime the non fold seats) but the rounded curved nature of the design, they are not a boxy straight design so there is heaps of lost useable space due to the curves, so my other 'next van' consideration would be 'must be straight/boxy in the back'.

John340
QLD, 3257 posts
5 Aug 2015 10:12AM
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I currently have a trailer, which is fantastic. The only problem is that I can't take it to work to skip out for an afternoon sail and I can't park it on the west side of Wellington Pt. On those days I use my station wagon.

At some stage I'll replace the wagon/trailer combo with a van. I like the new Ford Transit Custom. Great safety, drive-ability, interior comfort and space (the SWB fits my 2.5m Mistral boards). It does not have seat options in the back, but my kids are grown up and hence are not required.

Ezric
NSW, 183 posts
5 Aug 2015 3:21PM
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The VW Crafter look pretty huge. I passed one today. I think they have a 4wd version but I'm betting its not available in Australia. If it is it will cost a bomb.

evilC
QLD, 677 posts
5 Aug 2015 5:42PM
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The seats are aftermarket and don't fold (i.e. cheapish aftermarket) but I am sure you could get folding ones if you wanted. I also got a VW bench front passenger seat instead of the single passenger seat.

actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
7 Aug 2015 8:34AM
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Ive got a transit crew cab chassis .
Its 6 seats in cabin with heaps of room so much room i can sleep on rear seat but I'm only 5ft 10 inches good to drive good on fuel the rear tray is 2.7mtr long could easily be enclosed & the added bonus is its aluminium tray so don't have to worry about rust. And the smell of wet gear is not actually in the car . They make a seven seater option with another 900mm longer tray .

GavGav
VIC, 193 posts
7 Aug 2015 7:45PM
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ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
8 Aug 2015 9:30PM
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actiomax
NSW, 1576 posts
9 Aug 2015 10:37AM
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Gav love that stretch transit . But it must be hell to park & do the shopping with . Its hard enough with mine sometimes.
I swear the parking bays are getting smaller every new shopping centre . I parked the other day & my tires were on the lines on both sides of the marked parking bay . I just cant follow the logic if the space was marked at the width of the road & say fit 50 cars painting 100 spaces at half the size does not suddenly double the available parking area. Because people have to be able to open the door to get out .

WindmanV
VIC, 757 posts
10 Aug 2015 9:04AM
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Max,

Completely agree. Had a Mercedes as my first van and 3 days after pickup was sitting in the van at Kmart, well away from other cars, when a car came in alongside me and the passenger opened her door, straight into the side of the van . When I pointed out what she’d done, she replied “So what? It’s only a truck”.

Nowadays, I pull into the middle of TWO parking bays, so there’s room on both sides. As a concession to others, I try to do all of my shopping early in the morning so others aren’t being inconvenienced.

Only had one complaint in 12 years plus: from a Volvo driver (Volvo: brand new shapes. Same d*ckhead drivers ). He completely ignored the fact that I was well away from others in the parking area AND the van easily overlapped BOTH ends of the parking bays.

Also, if I were to be chipped, I can point out that the bays are CAR PARKING spaces and are not sized for commercial vehicles.

Hope this helps.

pepe47
WA, 1381 posts
13 Aug 2015 9:53AM
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Like the look of the new LDV g10. Still a bit nervous about chinese vehicles, but this ticks all the boxes. Especially the 2.0l turbo engine



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