i have just masterd the planing gybe, and now i am determined to get the famouse duck gybe just need some pointers, any one got some hints for me,
chears
Hi Jord070
Cant give you any pointers myself as I'm yet to attempt the duck gybe. I can recommend a tuition DVD though, Jem Halls Beginner to Winner is very good and there is a chapter on the Duck Gybe which is pretty detailed and broken down into eas...ier steps.
yeah doing a duck gybe is alot easier than u think. as mike says, go for it early as in pretty much straight after u start your carve.
brack
duck gybe is good next move to learn. gives you confidence for learning other stuff and improves your normal gybes alot by making you not rely on the boom/sail for balance and forces you to ride the board like a surfboard, plus it makes u sail switch stance for a while if u do them properly 
u will probably find that your normal gybes were not as good as you thought they were once you learn to duckgybe as this will make them even bettera 
- go into yer gybe like you normally would, halfway through the carve (almost heading downwind) reach all the way back to the clew of the boom with what is currently your old front hand, pull clew across in front of your face (you ducking behind it) and yank the clew towards the outside of the turn (obviously making sure you have let go with the old back hand)
- because you are heading down wind by this stage there is no power in the sail so it is easy to handle. grab the new side of the boom with both hands at the normal sailing position, leave feet in old gybe stance and ride switch stance for a bit while you finish off the carve
- then when you are heading across wind again on new tack, change your feet like a step gybe or go strap for strap!
takes a little practice, but you'll have it sussed within 50 attempts in both directions ;) there's a kind of sweet spot through the turn you will find easiest
if you do it all too early the mast will smack into the water stopping the board dead an u go over the front
if u do it too late you end up with the wind pushing the mast back upright and u left holding the clew while hanging off the back of the board and grinding to a halt, and falling off
cheers
hmmm tips.
1. Set up and entry as for classic carve (or strap to strap)
2. Put your back hand as far back as you can reach on your boom
3. At about 30^ before dead downwind, just a tad after the up and over part of the gybe where you bring your weight over the board and set your rail with your back foot, let go with the front hand and push the sail forward with your back hand. It will fall to the inside. If the mast hits the water you are too early.
4. Grab the boom with you old front hand as close to the clew as you can get it, and sweep (throw) the thing as quick as you can (vigorously) across your front and into the wind like a low backhand tennis shot. Robby rotates his whole upper body when he does this. He does the coolest duckies I've seen. Its easy to get into the habit of going half hearted and muddling through but its not pretty. (3 and 4 blend into 1 fluid movement)
5. Keep carving.
6. If the throw was right the sail just presents itself on the new side and kinda floats there waiting for you to grab it.
7. The rest is obvious.
Practise the ducking part on land and you should have it sussed in no time. Don't forget to practise on both tacks.
Like 247 says, get it sussed in you head onland first.
Do it for about half an hour until its second nature.
Be really agressive with the throw (re Notwal), as soon as you feel the rig go light.
When you're coming out of the jibe make sure you dont turn too far up wind.
Someone once told me a piece of info for gybing that really helped me and that is to imagine you are really only turning 90 deg not 180 deg, since you first bear off to start your turn and come out of the gybe heading downwind.
so it would be
bear off (45)
Turn (90) - flipping rig
head back up (45)
If after the rig flip you bear up wind too soon the sail will power up and pull out of you hands.
So after the rig flip keep the nose of the board pointing downwind until you get yourself comfy.
Lots of good advice, but one thing I find not many people do enough of is flipping the rig back into the wind with your "new" back hand, while it is still feathered clew-first and therefore has no power.
I don't know about anyone else, but I find duckies harder on modern gear as there's less physical room between your feet and the mast base than on old gear.
The handwork/sail work takes place entirely before you're straight downwind. You should start the sail change much sooner than feels right, but also do it more slowly than feels right. Keep your upper body still and keep the carving pressure on, and the duck jibe can be yours fairly quickly.
It's a beautiful jibe. When you start planing out of them you'll want to do them all the time.
Don't let your mast hit the water! you might lose some teeth 
Don't use your friends as gybe markers as you'll brain them with your mast 
Make a woohoo after completing one 
alright thanks for all your tips, but now i just need a front to come through, hmm, 3 weeks of nothing to do but exams, do you recon there is going to be a good 20 to 25 knott (at least) front come through
don't forget to thank richard whyte for inventing the move.
good for your karma before attempting them. 
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Originally posted by jord070
i have just masterd the planing gybe, and now i am determined to get the famouse duck gybe just need some pointers, any one got some hints for me,
chears
BTW Jords Im just jealous because I cant duck gybe
But then again I dont try them. Where I sail I dont have to show off with speckie gybes to people on the beach There are no people on the beach
i'm a firm believer that if you can't do a planing duck gybe on flat water, you are still on [L] plates.
you know you want to let go of your front hand roomster'
repeat after me......i know i want this duck gybe
i must grab the rear end of the boom........i am sooooo doing it!
I know I want this duck gybe
I must grab the rear end of the boom........I am sooooo doing it!
Hmmm Am I ment to feel any different Leader? I do feel a little stoned... oh wait, thats from the bucket I just had
I think one of the keys to the duck gybe is the commitment in the carve. One way to help develop this is to practice your standard gybes but as you are carving reach across with your back hand and brush the water on the opposite side.
I found doing this a couple of times game me a good feeling for surfing the board.
Give it a go!! Also hit you tube and search for some vids showing the move, visualizing helps heaps.
Cheers,
Toz.
