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Created by Gestalt > 9 months ago, 23 Jul 2010
lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jul 2010 5:43PM
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^^^^Its been 4 days and the dude in the background still isnt checking out the babe

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
30 Jul 2010 6:09PM
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looking at the rest of the pics in that noumea series the kiter in the gath is completely kooking it on that wave in nearly every shot. poo stance, off balance, ballet boosting away from the lip, riding way out in front, death gripping the ends of the bar.....and what the hell is this?:



i'd be nervous if he was in the lineup too

stamp
QLD, 2770 posts
30 Jul 2010 6:12PM
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don't bother learning to gybe either, just ride your board backwards and pray you don't catch a fin on the way out

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
30 Jul 2010 4:29PM
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..........whats the issue ,loft boy ...........you seriously need some surf lessons..............but not from me

MIND YOU the photos susss for a start ..............YOUR SICK FK

The fkn windsurfer dood is holding his line plodding out.... looking into the eye of da beast ...........NOT SUX THE KITERS POLE EITHER YOU ****


The fkn kiter is the dood who must control the manouver...... there is a criss cross period of a split second........ kiter boy has to time his slash to the dragon and his med strings to avoid the polie puller and if you carnt do that with confidence back to the shallow end .... and OR you slide out of control, OR get boast and dragged into the windsurfer dood.

well .......... your a danger mouse

Polies love to be surrounded by ice and raindows and seeing the dragon being gouged.

if you havent got enough room fk off



OH i got it the kiters planning OUT ... in that other photo and its the same dood GETTING A BLOWIE BY THE POLLIE and the windsurfers is plodding WHILST SUCKING ......... oh and in lofty boy head.... kiting wins .....sorry dood wind drops out...... kite fall out of sky........ windsurfer keeps on plodding on racking the wave count up

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
30 Jul 2010 4:42PM
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I kite, you windsurf - i aint gonna windsurf, your not gonna kitesurf
i give way to you, you give way to me
whats the fkn problem here?

king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
30 Jul 2010 4:44PM
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I welcome my poor relative ..............to the family for he has the magic , to dance on the back of the dragon

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jul 2010 6:49PM
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Kotp,,try post when the magic mushrooms wear off,,cant make any sense of what your typing???????????

When you stop seeing dragons and rainbows,have another go.

I dont have a problem kotp,,its pretty basic,,first on the wave gets it,,,,simple.
But when your on the wave, dosent give you the right to take out anyone else in the water...is that hard to understand,,,,I dont think I can dumb it down any more than that.

PS shrooms will fry your brain

DunkO
NSW, 1144 posts
30 Jul 2010 6:49PM
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lotofwind said...

^^^^^bloody poledancers,,,,always in the way,,slowly slogging around bogged down,,,out on there Sunday arvo cruise on the bay yelling "port,,starboard,,PORT,,PORT[:D

So in this pic the dancer shouldnt be there,so by p c simpsons rules,,the kiter can go as hard as he wants and boost, if he takes out the dancer,its the dacers fault cause he shouldnt have been there??????


when wave riding you generally stay in the critical section of the wave, wether your whacking the lip carving or boosting. if you hit the section and boost way out into the sholder (where the rest are retuning to the line up) you are the biggest kook of all.

Stay in the pocket not on the sholder!

as far the first shot goes there is so much comitment in a air over a section like that you can hardly be looking down the line to see who is dropping in you, and if someone does put themselves there well they are the one causing the dangerouse situation and should probably have had a little chat to them, thats if the fins havent done the talking for you.

DunkO
NSW, 1144 posts
30 Jul 2010 7:01PM
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Thats better

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jul 2010 7:42PM
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king of the point said...
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MIND YOU the photos susss for a start ..............YOUR SICK FK

The fkn windsurfer dood is holding his line plodding out.... looking into the eye of da beast ...........NOT SUX THE KITERS POLE EITHER YOU ****
if you havent got enough room fk off
OH i got it the kiters planning OUT ... in that other photo and its the same dood GETTING A BLOWIE BY THE POLLIE and the windsurfers is plodding WHILST SUCKING ......... oh and in lofty boy head.... kiting wins .....sorry dood wind drops out...... kite fall out of sky........ windsurfer keeps on plodding on racking the wave count up


Calm down man,,no need for personal attacks,swearing and talk of oral sex.
Kids read these forums too.
you say "in my head kiteing wins" ??????
Its not a compition who wins or not.
Its about sharing the water responsably.

Can you at least see that?????????????????????????????????? or am I just
banging my head against the wall.

Gestalt
QLD, 14395 posts
30 Jul 2010 8:07PM
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lotofwind maybe just get over it

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jul 2010 8:08PM
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DunkO said...

lotofwind said...

^^^^^bloody poledancers,,,,always in the way,,slowly slogging around bogged down,,,out on there Sunday arvo cruise on the bay yelling "port,,starboard,,PORT,,PORT[:D

So in this pic the dancer shouldnt be there,so by p c simpsons rules,,the kiter can go as hard as he wants and boost, if he takes out the dancer,its the dacers fault cause he shouldnt have been there??????


when wave riding you generally stay in the critical section of the wave, wether your whacking the lip carving or boosting. if you hit the section and boost way out into the sholder (where the rest are retuning to the line up) you are the biggest kook of all.

Stay in the pocket not on the sholder!

as far the first shot goes there is so much comitment in a air over a section like that you can hardly be looking down the line to see who is dropping in you, and if someone does put themselves there well they are the one causing the dangerouse situation and should probably have had a little chat to them, thats if the fins havent done the talking for you.

What if it is one of your polie buddys in the water after a stack,
your on the wave shootin down the line ready to boost,
You have to look down wind first,not just go for it and hope no-ones there??
"you can hardly be looking down the line"???????
should read,,,,YOU MUST LOOK DOWN THE LINE

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
30 Jul 2010 8:12PM
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Gestalt said...

lotofwind maybe just get over it


Its all good,
Im not angry over it all,
all in good banter.

Windy tomorrow,,
30knots NNW,,,,,YEEEE HAAAAAAAA



oh and PS

PSS .. yeah,your right,I should get over it,,the king of the point will probly never get sharing the water responsably.




waveslave
WA, 4263 posts
30 Jul 2010 8:25PM
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I reckon the dancer in the pic is totally awestruck by the kiter's waveriding. ^^^
He's thinking; "Damn, I wish I had my camera on me."
You can see he's purposely sailing out really slowly.
He's fully chugging, the mast is standing straight-up like some kind of carbon hard-on.
He's making sure to take it all in...really appreciating the kiter's style.
Red Helmet gives the dancer a little wave of his hand.
"Shucks," he says,"Quit the hero-worshipping,dude."



hoop
1979 posts
30 Jul 2010 10:10PM
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Is that you in the red helmet Mr Slave?
I thought it might have been, but then thought no it's not. That guy's on the water, not on the internet or in the carpark talking schit.
LoL

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
31 Jul 2010 5:24PM
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That Kiter is doing the gayest turn ever, and does he realise the lip is 5 meters back up the wave..

First on the wave? where did this rule come from? is this so kiters can ride the shoulder from the horizon and think they have the wave..

Flux
WA, 533 posts
31 Jul 2010 4:21PM
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Who cares!!!! cool photo though !

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2010 6:35PM
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P.C_simpson said...

That Kiter is doing the gayest turn ever, and does he realise the lip is 5 meters back up the wave..

First on the wave? where did this rule come from? is this so kiters can ride the shoulder from the horizon and think they have the wave..


Dont know what rule you use Mr P C,maybe thats the problem your having,everyone thinks their rule is right?

At our local,and everywhere else around here, who ever turns and takes the swell first owns it.Which is usually the guy furtherest out to sea.
If he lets any wave pass,the next person can snap it up.
If you go by surfing rules, whos on the inside, it just dosent work kiteing or dancing.
If you use whos on the inside(surfing rules), you could have picked up a swell 300m out,riding it in then some one just heading out on the inside of you could turn onto it and call you off??????surfing rule,closest to the breaking wave owns it.
Wont work with wind sports.

We never have any problems around here like you guys complain about all the time.
Maybe you all need to have a chat on the beach with each other and make sure your all on the same page.
What rule are you working to P C Simpson if not first to turn onto it has claimed it?

What rule of thumb is everyone on here useing?
Always thought the above was world wide,but P C hasnt heard of it.
Is it different in WA?????
Thoughts?



shannon8888
NSW, 517 posts
31 Jul 2010 7:19PM
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kited with 1/2 dozen + polies and 2 other kiters a couple of weeks ago at $%*#@* and every body was quite courteous no issues tack out the back and join the line up first screaming down the face wins was plenty of waves to go around and this was my first time with dancers ,25kn+ all i could see were teeth

AJEaster
NSW, 696 posts
31 Jul 2010 7:42PM
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lotofwind said...

P.C_simpson said...

That Kiter is doing the gayest turn ever, and does he realise the lip is 5 meters back up the wave..

First on the wave? where did this rule come from? is this so kiters can ride the shoulder from the horizon and think they have the wave..


Dont know what rule you use Mr P C,maybe thats the problem your having,everyone thinks their rule is right?

At our local,and everywhere else around here, who ever turns and takes the swell first owns it.Which is usually the guy furtherest out to sea.
If he lets any wave pass,the next person can snap it up.
If you go by surfing rules, whos on the inside, it just dosent work kiteing or dancing.
If you use whos on the inside(surfing rules), you could have picked up a swell 300m out,riding it in then some one just heading out on the inside of you could turn onto it and call you off??????surfing rule,closest to the breaking wave owns it.
Wont work with wind sports.

We never have any problems around here like you guys complain about all the time.
Maybe you all need to have a chat on the beach with each other and make sure your all on the same page.
What rule are you working to P C Simpson if not first to turn onto it has claimed it?

What rule of thumb is everyone on here useing?
Always thought the above was world wide,but P C hasnt heard of it.
Is it different in WA?????
Thoughts?






LoW, I agree, first on is the owner. That is what my understanding has been in my 23 years of windsurfing, and it seems to be the rule at all other beaches that I have sailed at around oz. Kiters at my local think otherwise, using the surfing rule, which means I snaffle one out the back and ride to the peak to start DTL, and they snake inside and try and call me off after I have been on the wave/swell for prob 50m. Spoke about it on the beach after an incident, and they disagree and aint going to change.

So long as I dont hit someone, if I am on it first, they can continue to get their little pink knickers in a twist.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2010 7:49PM
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^^^^^yeah,I see your problem.
If you all cant agree on a system,then it aint gunna work.
What happends if you do that to them???

Maybe the majority rule at your local need to snott the minority?Which ever way round that works.

What happens when thoughs few go to another spot??Maybe they should kite with P C Simpson LOL

busterwa
3777 posts
31 Jul 2010 5:59PM
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AJEaster
NSW, 696 posts
31 Jul 2010 8:05PM
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^^^^^ I was thinking the same.....if they travel to another spot, does someone sort them out after they snake again and again. If so i thought it would have opended their mind to how it works by now.

Anyway, as it turns out myself and another poly are the odd ones out with the rule, so we are the minority now that kiting has taken off. With the other guys being new to windsports in the surf they obviously know better and aint going to change.

the upshot of the story is however, last summer I found another spot to get away from the snakes, actually a lot closer to home, which is cross offshore in a NE, is more consistent than I once thought so DTL is much better there, so maybe this experience has actually turned out to be a good one in a way. Better spot, no crowd, no snakes. JOY!

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
31 Jul 2010 9:46PM
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The first onto the wave does work if everyone is powered up and planning around, BUT as with alot of good wave riding days, windsurfers are not always planning or some even intentionally not planning to wait for a wave to pass to get the next in the set sitting in the right spot ready to take off.

So by the first onto the wave rule, some one can sail or kite just pass this person stalling out, gybe onto the wave and claim it, although the other person has intentionally waited for it. This is why this rule will and does cause friction between kiters and sailors.. actualy anyone snaking people like this..

I would not use the first onto the wave in places like Margs or there would be some real problems later in the car park..

P.S i'm actually from N.S.W and can kite i just prefer not too..

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2010 10:01PM
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P.C_simpson said...

That Kiter is doing the gayest turn ever, and does he realise the lip is 5 meters back up the wave..

First on the wave? where did this rule come from? is this so kiters can ride the shoulder from the horizon and think they have the wave..


Ok, so now you have heard of this rule....now we are getting somewhere.


As to not being powered up enough to plain,,,,would it even be worth getting in the water that underpowered......
If so,might cause more problems than its worth,
trying to catch waves amongst other sailors who have got the right gear for the conditions???

P.C_simpson
NSW, 1489 posts
31 Jul 2010 10:03PM
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Food for thought, Here is the rules for a kite user..

Kite Surfing Guidelines

A surf kite and board is classified as a “vessel” and therefore comes under NSW
marine legislation.
A Code of Conduct for kite surfing has been developed by NSW Maritime in
conjunction with the Australian Kite Surfing Association (AKSA).
Requirements:
Distance off
· Kite surfers and their equipment, including kite and lines, must maintain a
minimum distance of 30m from any persons or objects in the water at all
times
· Stay out of a designated surf zone. A designated surf zone is defined as the
area extending 500 metres out from shore between surf patrol flags or signs
· Stay out of a swimming area, which is defined as the area extending 60
metres out from shore between signs for swimmers.
Lifejacket
An appropriate lifejacket must be worn when the kite surfer is 400 metres or
more from the nearest shore.

Safety Tips
· Take extreme care when launching
· Keep a proper lookout at all times
· Kite surfers must maintain proper distances off when operating in the
vicinity of surfers outside the designated surf zone
· Kite surfers must keep a proper lookout at all times for obstructions, other
craft or swimmers
· Look all around - even behind you.
Give Way
Power driven craft must give way to sailcraft such as kite surfers unless the kite
surfer is in the process of overtaking. A kite surfer overtaking any other craft
(power or sail) must keep well clear of the vessel being overtaken.

And yes the photos are cool anyway..

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2010 10:06PM
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^^^^^^âll pretty much the same for a dancer,,,,and many of them bend the rules when deemed safe to as do all water uses if you want to be honest about it,,
All comes down to common sense,,and respect<<<<thats the main word.

If you are so under powered that you cant get powered up to plain,,,
Is it worth it,I know it usually isnt when kiteing.
maybe just surf the waves instead.
Usually the underpowered crafts tend to cause heaps of dramas,both dancer and kite.
I think your really nit picking the common rule of first on the wave claims it though,
glad to hear that you now agree the rules are the same in WA.
Was starting to think that WA was behind the times like DLSAll in good fun

colinwill78
VIC, 1395 posts
31 Jul 2010 10:37PM
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shannon8888 said...

kited with 1/2 dozen + polies and 2 other kiters a couple of weeks ago at $%*#@* and every body was quite courteous no issues tack out the back and join the line up first screaming down the face wins was plenty of waves to go around and this was my first time with dancers ,25kn+ all i could see were teeth


def my favourite post here....... (well, after the two main photo's anyway)

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
31 Jul 2010 11:17PM
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I think that stoke and situation happens at the majority of spots around aussie.
Its just a couple of bad eggs,both kite and dancer ,that cause a bit of grief.

Its a fricken big coast line.

shannon8888
NSW, 517 posts
31 Jul 2010 11:22PM
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P.C_simpson said...

Food for thought, Here is the rules for a kite user..

Kite Surfing Guidelines

A surf kite and board is classified as a “vessel” and therefore comes under NSW
marine legislation.
A Code of Conduct for kite surfing has been developed by NSW Maritime in
conjunction with the Australian Kite Surfing Association (AKSA).
Requirements:
Distance off
· Kite surfers and their equipment, including kite and lines, must maintain a
minimum distance of 30m from any persons or objects in the water at all
times
· Stay out of a designated surf zone. A designated surf zone is defined as the
area extending 500 metres out from shore between surf patrol flags or signs
· Stay out of a swimming area, which is defined as the area extending 60
metres out from shore between signs for swimmers.
Lifejacket
An appropriate lifejacket must be worn when the kite surfer is 400 metres or
more from the nearest shore.

Safety Tips
· Take extreme care when launching
· Keep a proper lookout at all times
· Kite surfers must maintain proper distances off when operating in the
vicinity of surfers outside the designated surf zone
· Kite surfers must keep a proper lookout at all times for obstructions, other
craft or swimmers
· Look all around - even behind you.
Give Way
Power driven craft must give way to sailcraft such as kite surfers unless the kite
surfer is in the process of overtaking. A kite surfer overtaking any other craft
(power or sail) must keep well clear of the vessel being overtaken.

And yes the photos are cool anyway..


nice refresher thanks



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