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new age of windsurfing

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Created by BlueStorm > 9 months ago, 17 Jan 2010
gregwed
QLD, 555 posts
21 Jan 2010 9:58AM
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ka360 - just watched your vid, gees I'm impressed, just about brought tears to the eyes, good stuff, you must be proud!
Well done!!!

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8014 posts
21 Jan 2010 11:25AM
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KA360 said...


windsurfing is not dead yet!

i have been teaching my son to windsurf since the beginning of last summer,he is now a strong shortboarder,he jumps,waterstarts and does some of the sweetest jibes you have ever seen.
he reguarly now sails in over 30 knots,other windsurfers are astonished when they see him ride in that wind strength with his tiny rig in such rough water.
he is only 8 years old and weighs 27kg

he has mastered windsurfing younger than anyone before

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the effort or teaching your kids to windsurf is well worth it!

here are some photos of alex and dad blasting around
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i also have a daughter who is 4
she will also be a windsurfer
she already knows she is going to be a windsurfer(brainwashing has begun)
she will be unleashed in 2 years time
she will be easier to teach,she is tougher than boy!

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here is clip of alex shot 6 months ago,when he was 7



teach your kids to windsurf,it is worth the time and expense
now i windsurf more often,have more fun,inspired to do new things and always have a buddy to sail with
DOES IT GET ANY BETTER THAN THAT!

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As a female that has never liked kids or wanted any I could feel myself becoming a bit clucky watching that.. Now if only you could guarantee that your kids would be keen and get involved in your sports..

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
21 Jan 2010 2:30PM
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Your boyfriend must take advantage of your cluckiness while it lasts...

h20
VIC, 456 posts
21 Jan 2010 4:10PM
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need TV and media promo and a stay ashore legened like JP to get lots of local coverage... It will come....

another issue is the screwed up current generation.... I had a TV crew booked to come and visit Robby Swift for promo and for weather... 5 kids written off in car accident drink driving.... TV crew obviously had to cover that. Would have been good promotion.

FlickySpinny
WA, 657 posts
21 Jan 2010 6:33PM
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H20 - whatever you're doing to book TV crews for these sort of events, keep doing it. Would have been great to have some footage of Robbie and the good sailors pulling shakas and loops!

sboardcrazy
NSW, 8014 posts
21 Jan 2010 10:15PM
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pierrec45 said...

Your boyfriend must take advantage of your cluckiness while it lasts...

He'd run a mile if he thought i wanted kids..hes likes them less than me!

LeStef
ACT, 514 posts
22 Jan 2010 12:15AM
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You got me and the kids all excited about going sailing !
They had a ball at Narrabeen lake this afternoon. They want to go back tomorrow !
On my big AHD 130 l with foam top and French Decathlon's kid rig (3.5m2).
The little rope was a great idea as they felt safer. I had 20m but will need more !


spot1
WA, 1588 posts
21 Jan 2010 10:31PM
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i think windforce will be getting some calls this week
josh age 7 HE HAS been reading this thread
that 62l looks like it will not be in the buy & sell any more



Windxtasy
WA, 4014 posts
21 Jan 2010 11:05PM
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spot1 said...



i think windforce will be getting some calls this week
josh age 7 HE HAS been reading this thread






That is so cute!
Tell him to look forwards though...

Kan
24 posts
21 Jan 2010 11:25PM
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Another Robby Naish / Bjorn Dunkerbeck in the future ...

showpony
WA, 33 posts
21 Jan 2010 11:43PM
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As it fits the topic - here is a little movie we did on the
river (Pelican Point) last week:



Unfortunately we do essentially never see any other kids there.
It would be great if there were a few regulars, it would be so much more fun.


LeStef
ACT, 514 posts
22 Jan 2010 10:43AM
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spot1 said...


i think windforce will be getting some calls this week
josh age 7 HE HAS been reading this thread
that 62l looks like it will not be in the buy & sell any more



Hey Spot1, it looks like Josh is on the wrong side of the fence !

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
22 Jan 2010 10:42AM
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Windxtasy said...

Tell him to look forwards though...


I think you'll find he needs to look backwards going for loops (as I imagine he is thinking in that photo)

LeStef
ACT, 514 posts
22 Jan 2010 4:18PM
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sausage said...

Windxtasy said...

Tell him to look forwards though...

I think you'll find he needs to look backwards going for loops (as I imagine he is thinking in that photo)


Or maybe he is looking at his imaginary (invisible) sail !

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
22 Jan 2010 9:25PM
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I don't think there is any promotion of windsurfing outside of windsurfing, if you know what I mean. I wonder what effect an ad, like a manufacturer's 2010 range, at the movies would have?

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
22 Jan 2010 9:35PM
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I think the best way for windsurfing to grow is for people who are keen for the sport to survive to own or have access to a board and sail that is suitable for a beginner. My wife has an RRD Easyrider and its such an easy board to teach people to windsurf on. I've taught a few people to windsurf with this board. They all loved it and thats what windsurfing is all about.


MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
22 Jan 2010 11:33PM
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Here is a great blog that addresses this issue: http://schoolofsurf.com.au/blogs/

Secondly, windsurfing is still way more popular than kitesurfing.

Just type in windsurfing and see how many results show compared to kitesurfing.

If that doesnt convince you, if you use google adwords or just use the google adwords tool search, you'll see that windsurfing has wayyyyy much more searches than kitesrufing. Kitesurfing is going through a boom similar to what windsurfing did back in the 80's. :)

Windsurfing all the way! Never look back mate.

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
23 Jan 2010 12:54AM
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MrSpaggiari said...
[Windsurfing all the way! Never look back mate..................


unless looping.

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
23 Jan 2010 2:39AM
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Loved the photo LeStef (great to see the rope working) - your son is looking good! Your rig is nice and light but the only point I'd make is that you'll need something smaller ideally as you gradually increase his exposure to stronger wind. I reckon a 2 to 2.5 metre is essential. He'll need that anyway (for his age and weight) when he starts to go in wind strengths above 15 knots. When you use a small sail, you'll need to cut down an old fin to between 10 - 15 cms so he can turn the board (the small sails can't do this using a normal size fin).

Spot 1 - congratulations to you both - Josh has great stance - he's really hanging off the boom. I think he's looking up in the photo, imagining his new rig - probably the 2011 model Neil Pryde Dragonfly! Your simulator reminds me of what I did for Alex and it was of huge benefit! He'll be planning before you know it.

Showpony - that's really fast into the straps and nice one-handed action! Great video, finishing with a gybe! Great rig control too - can you get your hands on a 100-110 litre pro edition freestyle board? I reckon after a couple of goes with that - there'll be planning in the harness and straps happening for sure... (The Young Gun board is a bit hard to get planning for first timers although it is a great board but made a bit heavier by it's additional features (extra footstrap plugs, foam and extra fin slot). Once they've felt planning then they can achieve it on the Young Gun too.



LeStef
ACT, 514 posts
24 Jan 2010 11:57PM
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KA360 said...

Loved the photo LeStef (great to see the rope working) - your son is looking good! Your rig is nice and light but the only point I'd make is that you'll need something smaller ideally as you gradually increase his exposure to stronger wind. I reckon a 2 to 2.5 metre is essential. He'll need that anyway (for his age and weight) when he starts to go in wind strengths above 15 knots. When you use a small sail, you'll need to cut down an old fin to between 10 - 15 cms so he can turn the board (the small sails can't do this using a normal size fin).

Thanks Master teacher KA360. I always appreciate your comments.
I checked, the kids sail I used is in fact a 3.0 m2. Maxime (9 next week) could pull it out ok with that tiny wind. I had a look in a shop here in Sydney and their kid's kit was quite expensive. I was maybe thinking of cutting an old 5 m2 I have stopped using, and using the mast and boom from the kid's rig.
It's funny you talked about the fin as my kids were amazed to see me just before leaving taking the saw and chopping a fin in half. I reduced it again later (may be to 20 cm), and it probably should be enough. I wonder how they will go witout a centerboard and a so small fin.
The rope was a great idea as they felt much more confident, and me too.

I was also wondering if we should have on seabreeze a page for kids' stuffs (ideas, gear, motivations...)

spot1
WA, 1588 posts
24 Jan 2010 10:53PM
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well that is 2 days of training at pell/point down. I thing that the gear i rented was good the sail was 2m think it could have been smaller and lite for a 7year old.
Josh had fun and is going to do the start windsurfing school mon,tue,wen
it feels like iam learning all over again ......the walk of shame


Windxtasy
WA, 4014 posts
24 Jan 2010 11:24PM
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sausage said...

Windxtasy said...

Tell him to look forwards though...


I think you'll find he needs to look backwards going for loops (as I imagine he is thinking in that photo)




That was a serious comment. My son has been windsurfing on and off for a couple of years now and has only just discovered that it's much easier to balance when you are looking forward and not looking at your feet!

Showpony said:
Unfortunately we do essentially never see any other kids there.
It would be great if there were a few regulars, it would be so much more fun.

My kids hate Pelican point (my daughter even calls it the "devil possessed" beach). It's too weedy and the bottom is sharp. Melville is much more inviting for kids.
There are quite a few boys sailing there, but my daughter is the only girl I have seen sailing there. She really wants a companion. Anyone in Perth have a 10 - 12 year old daughter for her to sail with?

zippyblue
NSW, 111 posts
25 Jan 2010 9:41PM
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My 2 cents..

So how do other places in the world get kids hooked on windsurfing?

Example from in Hong kong, the government have set up subsidised water sports centers all around the place. Cost to rent a windsurf board is around 4 AUD per hour. This includes a rescue boat, for when you get into trouble. Lessons cost around 40 AUD for 2 full days, in a group of 5, with one instructor in a boat. You can book it all online.

The result, any weekend in Stanley beach HK even when there's no wind, says it all with dozens of young kids all out on the water having fun, plus quite a few not so young kids. Maybe this also has something to do with a famous (in HK) windsurfer Lee Lai-Shan who won the Olympic gold in '96, lots of people there would like to follow her.

I think the place down at Balmoral charge around ten times that price for a few hours rental. Well of course, they have to since it's a business and they need to make some money...

I dont have kids, but I remember being one, and there's no way my folks could have justified shelling out hundreds of $$ on whim that I'd stick with something seemingly as difficult to learn as windsurding. So a BMX bike it was.

Andy

h20
VIC, 456 posts
25 Jan 2010 10:31PM
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Looking for sponsors..... maybe the next star in the disney movie. After all he does have it all over his sail already. Surely some cash for comment will help pay for some dummies. 17 months old. 1.7m Mistral sail.






LeStef
ACT, 514 posts
26 Jan 2010 12:05AM
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Great looking sail h2O, your son loves it already.

We went again today at Narrabeen lake with the kids, I have tried my smaller fin (20cm) for the 130 l board and 3.0 m2 sail. They can turn better and it seems to be aiming up and down ok, but I wonder how they will go as there isn't any centerboard and when I sail I can really feel myself going sideways and not pointing much. I guess, the big board is great to learn, but they eventually will have to go on the smaller size board like Alex and Josh.

And Pierrec45 you would have loved it. A couple came with an old board they got for free from someone throwing it away, it was a Hifly 600 CS (Corado Speed ??). I helped them rigging, I haden't seen a boom like that for 25 years, but it was fun to try. Amazing how heavy an old sail can be when it's wet !

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
26 Jan 2010 2:03AM
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BlueStorm, I have been thinking about the issues you have raised and I am going to start another topic called "New Age of Windsurfing Part 2" to focus on solutions.

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
26 Jan 2010 11:32AM
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LeStef said...


And Pierrec45 you would have loved it. (...)

No I wouldn't. If there was wind I woulda been Wonda or at worst B.Bay ;)

BlueStorm
WA, 71 posts
29 Jan 2010 2:20PM
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KA360 said...

BlueStorm, I have been thinking about the issues you have raised and I am going to start another topic called "New Age of Windsurfing Part 2" to focus on solutions.



sweet thats cool im pretty proud that this thread has accually lasted.

au_rick
WA, 752 posts
1 Feb 2010 2:55PM
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I think it's just a generational thing, like when windsurfing first got popular in the 80's everyone go onto the bandwagon, so to speak and now a lot of those people have aged and drifted away from the sport.

Or maybe stopped sailing when they had kids, and now their kids are grown they're dusting off the old gear ?

Kitesurfing is the new trendy thing so it seems to interest the younger crowd looking for a sport to get into, and will probably go the same way in 10 - 15 years as the originals drop away and the younger crew take up the next sport that comes along.

Similar thing with cycling, when mountain biking came a long there was a big drop in kids getting into road racing, same thing with water skiing when wake boarding came onto the scene.

Windsurfing seems to be making a resurgence now, maybe the original guys have got the kids off their hands now and are getting back into it, maybe some paddle surfers are getting into it as a way to get away from the crowded surf spots.

let it blow
120 posts
2 Feb 2010 6:57PM
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Back in my day,
we use to walk to school,
up hill,
both ways,



This topic is funny.
The oldies trying to keep poledancing alive by forcing their 6 yr olds into it.
ha ha ha

Once they get old enough to make their own decisions,I bet they buy a kite.

Dont worry,when Im old I will be trying to get my kids to kite to keep kiting alive.
But by then there will be radical high speed hover boards or something.

And the world keeps spining.



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