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Created by yoyo > 9 months ago, 21 May 2008
yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
21 May 2008 9:40AM
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hardie
WA, 4081 posts
21 May 2008 9:46AM
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What does it say and mean?

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
21 May 2008 12:01PM
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Translated (badly, but enough to get the gist):

translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffoils.wordpress.com%2F&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=fr&tl=en

Spotty
VIC, 1619 posts
21 May 2008 6:28PM
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Its some euro' Beergutometer, shows how much your gut stretches and what angle it hangs at after drinking 6,8,14,20, and 28 beers

firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
21 May 2008 5:06PM
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Spotty said...

Its some euro' Beergutometer, shows how much your gut stretches and what angle it hangs at after drinking 6,8,14,20, and 28 beers


Had me stumped, but now we know

25
WA, 319 posts
21 May 2008 6:24PM
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I knew an intellectual like you would make sense of it for me Spotty - in a lanuage I can understand.
Pure science mate!

jp747
1553 posts
21 May 2008 9:29PM
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lemme guesswith the wind at o/360deg.'s green boat-windspeed 6kts-90deg.run=9kts, red boat-wndspd 8kts@120deg.run=13.5kts.,blue boat-windspeed 14kts@120deg.run=17kts.,so on and so forth..correct me if am wrong, i wanna be like nebbian

sailquik
VIC, 6089 posts
25 May 2008 12:27PM
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Is that name really POXNT? !!!!!!!

Must translate differently in the home language.........

Looks waaaay too flat to me..........

Where do they come from?

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
25 May 2008 11:21AM
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They ( Point-7) won the last Karpathos round of speed. However Jose Bahadour probably had more to do with that than the sails. Look like Pryde clones.



We will have to get on to Subi council to get one of these for the playground at Peli. Though I think the draught should be further forward..

sailquik
VIC, 6089 posts
25 May 2008 1:27PM
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OK. Poor choice of fonts if ever I saw it.

Yep, Italian...

Who rigged that sail in the photo? Was it from their website? I couldn't see it on the website. May be it is just rigged that way?

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
25 May 2008 11:47AM
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Hey Daffy , look what I found.

Rubberized wrist gps (with band extended). Sirf3. 60,000 trackpoint. Recording interval adjustable from 1 sec. Rechargable Li-Ion battery. Trackpoints downloadable in Nmea (and KML, CSV, Text, GPX or RMC format) plus many many more features at about half the price of a Forerunner. I note they say "water tolerable" rather than waterproof but being lower profile than a Foretrex it might be less likely to build up large water pressure than the Garmin in wipeouts. Looking at the files download it seems at least able to measure every metre so that's twice as good as a Garmin but probably not as accurate as a Navi.

see http://www1.canyon-tech.com/files/Canyon/Accessories/CNS-GPS2/CNS-GPS2_manual_EN.pdf

OceanBlue64
VIC, 980 posts
25 May 2008 1:59PM
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yoyo said...

Hey Daffy , look what I found.

Rubberized wrist gps (with band extended for upper arm). Sirf3. 60,000 trackpoint. Recording interval adjustable from 1 sec. Rechargable Li-Ion battery. Trackpoints downloadable in Nmea (and KML, CSV, Text, GPX or RMC format) plus many many more features at about half the price of a Forerunner.

see http://www1.canyon-tech.com/files/Canyon/Accessories/CNS-GPS2/CNS-GPS2_manual_EN.pdf


They look interesting although I am not sure they would withstand dunking after a good catapult. They are rated IPX7 which is only 1 metre depth for 30 mins. The water pressure from a catapult may be greater than that.

mr love
VIC, 2345 posts
25 May 2008 2:24PM
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Daffy , Point 7 sails are from Sardinia and are the work of Peter Munzlinger who used to be YES Sails . They have a young designer doing the graphics which are pretty bold and I quite like them although the wave sail with the James Bondesque chick on it sort of looks like something you see on the back of a truck. The black monofilm is interesting .
I had a Yes 12.3 Formula sail quite a few years ago and it was pretty fast but just stupidly big .

sailquik
VIC, 6089 posts
25 May 2008 3:46PM
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yoyo said...

Hey Daffy , look what I found.

Rubberized wrist gps (with band extended). Sirf3. 60,000 trackpoint. Recording interval adjustable from 1 sec. Rechargable Li-Ion battery. Trackpoints downloadable in Nmea (and KML, CSV, Text, GPX or RMC format) plus many many more features at about half the price of a Forerunner. I note they say "water tolerable" rather than waterproof but being lower profile than a Foretrex it might be less likely to build up large water pressure than the Garmin in wipeouts. Looking at the files download it seems at least able to measure every metre so that's twice as good as a Garmin but probably not as accurate as a Navi.

see http://www1.canyon-tech.com/files/Canyon/Accessories/CNS-GPS2/CNS-GPS2_manual_EN.pdf


Looks good on first glance but further study reveals that the NMEA data is only the RMC sentence which does not include HDOP and satellite info. It only includes Speed Over Ground, position and heading. Not good enough for us but better than the Foretrex as it at least has 'Doppler speed'. They claim the unit tracks altitude as well so maybe this is in the .GPX data but not the NMEA data?
EDIT: On reading further I see a sceenshot that includes GGA and GSA NMEA data as well so what I read must just be a misleading error in the specifications.


Additionally, if it is standard NMEA data presentation it probably does not go to enough decimal places to have the precision we desire.

IPX7 is not waterproof enough and I would be worried about popping a watchband pin in a crash and losing the unit.

How much $ are they?

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
25 May 2008 2:19PM
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Hard to find a standard version now , most come with the heart rate moniter. Canyon seem to be a Soviet model (bit like Amyrillo= GT-11). So basically it is a Global-sat GH 615. The HR moniter model is 615M. Apparantly they have done a bit of a software update since being out for a year and in June they will introduce a new case/model the 625 which is rather garish. According to various testers, it is more accurate than the Forerunner in practice but not quite as user friendly on the PC in regards to laps and exercise stuff but fine for sailing. The waterproofing looks better from a design point. ie the PC jack rubber cap presses against your skin on the underside of the watch. Seems the price is C$170 or 89 Pounds for the HR version and a bit less for the standard. There are some Oz stores at $250+.

see

www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=550130&TOPIC_ID=80145&FORUM_ID=4

http://www.mobilegpsonline.com/mgpsstore/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=437

www.efrontier.com.au/estore/product_info.php?cPath=2_3&products_id=219&osCsid=0c6b816960d6319f9b2a44918470974c

www.easydevices.co.uk/pp/GPS_Receivers/GPS_Tracker/GLOBALSAT_GH615B_PERSONAL_GPS_SPORT_WATCH_TRAINER.html

The UK option of 70 Quid (ex VAT) for the basic 615 may be best being A$144, but it would depend on the postage.

It would be great for skiing/snowboarding. Andrew I found this interesting..."The casio watches were disastrous in terms of GPS performance and I'm not even sure they still exist. Same problem with the Suunto. Like I said, the only watch with decent GPS performance and an actual "clock page" has been the 615 so far."

From.. www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=106909

sailquik
VIC, 6089 posts
25 May 2008 5:18PM
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Good research Dave!
I am certainly interested in the skiing angle but I don't think it would be any good at all for downhill skiing. When I wore the Foretrex on my wrist whilst skiing it kept losing reception. Also hard to keep outside gloves coat and other clothing on the wrist. Experiments with the Foretex and GT-11 showed a significant benefit when wearing the unit on the top of my helmet. Only hassle is having to remove my helmet to see my top speed at the end of each run.

NotWal
QLD, 7428 posts
25 May 2008 7:03PM
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Have to say I find those point 7 sails kn ugly - try-hard kitsch in the worst possible way.

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
25 May 2008 5:27PM
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Ahh...... you didn't read deep enough into it Andrew. It comes with an additional long wristband for outside gloves wear. And as they said...

FIELD TESTING

%200

GENERAL COMMENTS
After several days of testing on the runs, the GH615B proved to be a valuable tool with better dynamic response than the Forerunner 205 that seems to have more aggressive filtering, a typical example would be the speed that is updated faster on the 615B. While pretty large, it's possible to wear it throughout the day at least when you're in the mountains ;-)

The SiRFstarIII GPS module performs as expected with tracking in all outdoor environments including under heavy tree cover, as well as many indoor environments. In fact having a powerful chipset is especially useful in devices where the antenna has to be made as small as possible. Users of the Suunto X9 watch who struggle to get and maintain a fix will be appreciative of this.

ACCURATE TRACKS
Good news compared with the GH-601 that tended to inflate travelled distance measurements (probably not enough filtering of the "micro-movements"), the 615B now gives accurate measurements similar to those of the FR-205 and can be seen below the tracks are very similar


And from another review..here photographyontherun.com/wp/globalsat-gh615b/

"...The GH615B's default setting of recording one trackpoint per second will create a high resolution GPS track that will indicate almost every twist and turn of a trail..." and "...Although somewhat quirky, and not nearly as polished and feature-rich as the Forerunner 205/305, the GH615B did seem to do a good job of tracking my running routes, even in difficult terrain.."

By the way a couple of the Dutch C3 fin guys have moved from Naish's to Point-7

www.c3-fins.com/C3_web/gallery-serge.html

Yep, it still looks like it has a flat entry but this is the AC-2 and their top sail is the AC-1 Ltd.



Goo Screw
VIC, 269 posts
25 May 2008 7:41PM
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I think that Point-7 looks a fair bit like a poor man's RSRacing.
A bit of batten sanding and a lot less out haul and you might have a chance..[}:)]

elmo
WA, 8718 posts
25 May 2008 5:46PM
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The AC-2 is only their 2 cam sail a well detuned version of the AC-1 which is the full race jobby

Goo Screw
VIC, 269 posts
25 May 2008 8:11PM
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With out being too critical - how's the massive boom cut out!
What's that all about??
Catering for 4 foot Italians will catch a heap of wind in 30+ knots.

yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
25 May 2008 6:58PM
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HotsailsMaui actually named a sail "GPS". Prize for weird leech and tack.







OK Answer to the flat Point-7. Saw a close up. It has a Mauisails mast in it. Andrea Cucchi (Point-7 designer) used to ride Prydes. They (Point-7) look like Prydes. You should never use a Mauisails mast (or old Gaastra or Fibrespar) in Prydes which are designed for stiff base/soft top masts. Whereas any mast Barry/Phil designed bends heaps down low and will suck all the shape out of a Pryde/Point-7.


yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
28 May 2008 1:03AM
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Something different....here is an interesting idea. Is there a simple way of modifying RSpeed so as to record speed as altitude? Ok we can view the tracks in 2D in different colours but when they are crowded or you want to view in 3D on Google Earth having a Y axis showing speed may be a great way to visualize it. Or you could keep the vertical axis for acceleration...or both and select between the options.



yoyo
WA, 1646 posts
29 May 2008 4:58PM
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Just so we all know who is getting wind and who is missing out!



Sorry Tassie, but B.O.M. thinks you don't exist

AUS02
TAS, 1992 posts
29 May 2008 8:21PM
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That's OK, we've got our own



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