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Windsurfer hit by jetski Monday 3pm Gold Coast

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Created by sonic > 9 months ago, 1 Mar 2011
ABCELMO
104 posts
31 Mar 2011 7:57PM
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............You all winge and bitch about everone out there having a bit of fun, then go crash into them.




NixoNs ------- Is that an educated guess (An educated guess is a guess based on evidence or knowledge you already have.)?

MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
2 Apr 2011 2:10AM
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Mistral Nick said...

Oh dear, if that comment indicates the intelligence of our powered brethren what hope to we have! May the gods of wind remove him from the broadwater.
I've never seen him either.


ha ha... and the guy is serious. :O

tonyd
QLD, 396 posts
8 Apr 2011 12:05PM
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Hope something comes out of this. From GC Rag today

Scotf
QLD, 1241 posts
8 Apr 2011 12:16PM
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Thanks for that post Tonyd.

$500.00 seems like an incredibly light fine given the potentially life threatening nature of the incident. I think Mr Gohr's smug look of relief in his photo tells it all.

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:04PM
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Also here:
www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2011/04/08/306505_crime-and-court-news.html

The message is when windsurfing always give way to everything, especially jet-skis, even though you (usually) have the right of way.

Other day I was coming across the broadwater and on a collision course with a jet-ski. There was plenty of time to avoid any accident but I thought I'd continue on anyway to see what happens. The guy and passenger would have to alter course like 2 degrees to go behind me. No prizes for guessing who had to stop to let the other pass. I've done this a few times and they just look at you as they pass, expressionless.

Where do they get their licences?

http://www.msq.qld.gov.au/~/media/426e6ff9-b5cc-4dd0-9d1b-9b8435861bd1/sail_power_ani.ashx





evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:05PM
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Also it just amazes me you could crash into a windsurfer. How do you not see it???

tonyd
QLD, 396 posts
8 Apr 2011 2:18PM
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p22 Editorial

MrSpaggiari
QLD, 241 posts
8 Apr 2011 6:19PM
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Serious problem indeed! I've noticed when sailing at gold coast they don't seem to consider the crafts around them.... obviously an experience issue....

question is, can we do anything about it?

ikw777
QLD, 2995 posts
8 Apr 2011 8:24PM
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evlPanda said...


Other day I was coming across the broadwater and on a collision course with a jet-ski. There was plenty of time to avoid any accident but I thought I'd continue on anyway to see what happens. The guy and passenger would have to alter course like 2 degrees to go behind me. No prizes for guessing who had to stop to let the other pass. I've done this a few times and they just look at you as they pass, expressionless.

Where do they get their licences?


They're instant f***wits, just add an internal combustion engine. It's always been that way and always will.

wormy
QLD, 679 posts
8 Apr 2011 8:54PM
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evlPanda said...

Also it just amazes me you could crash into a windsurfer. How do you not see it???


Charter boat, what charter boat.

Sorry, it had to be said.

sonic
QLD, 756 posts
10 Apr 2011 8:20AM
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I note the girl who runs the jetski school from the train has some campaign going to stop all day parking in that cul de sac, i suspect she may well get her way and we will be screwed for parking more than two hours.....................personally i have always found her customers part of the problem and her parking on the grass is surely some sort of vialation

mkseven
QLD, 2314 posts
10 Apr 2011 11:10AM
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Scotf said...

Thanks for that post Tonyd.

$500.00 seems like an incredibly light fine given the potentially life threatening nature of the incident. I think Mr Gohr's smug look of relief in his photo tells it all.




Seems that is just for criminal charges. If Linda/'s family pursue civil they will get some just compensation. Interesting for any potential customers of jetski place that they are going to leave you in the s*** if all goes bad- they seem to have wiped their hands of any responsibility.

Might be a bit cynical but the way it reads nothing will come out of this, just alot of departments blowing smoke.

sonic
QLD, 756 posts
10 Apr 2011 12:00PM
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If these guys are "under tuition" surely the "teacher" has some responsibility, i am very sure this isnt the end of the matter and Linda will act against the company, sure as hell i would.

da vecta
QLD, 2512 posts
11 Apr 2011 3:25PM
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This looks really, really bad. Hope you are recovering well Linda.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
11 Apr 2011 7:23PM
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MrSpaggiari said...

Serious problem indeed! I've noticed when sailing at gold coast they don't seem to consider the crafts around them.... obviously an experience issue....

question is, can we do anything about it?


No, you can't. It's an experience thing.
Everyone who gets on something like that for the first time will have their senses so over-loaded, all they will stare at is the front of the craft. Happens with everything, even us. How many times do people here post about making silly mistakes while gybing ? Same reason. Sensory overload, too much to think about, can only concentrate on one thing at a time.
It's a dumb place to run jet-ski hire for that reason, because unless you run a coach next to the novice, and force them to start slow until they get used to stuff, it's gonna happen every time.
The Train gets a big pass from me for that reason among others.

md74
QLD, 1064 posts
12 Apr 2011 10:24AM
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True Ken, I bypass the train, looking at how many boats are parked there, water traffic etc, just looks too busy, a very changed environment thats for sure. Shame. Miss the ripple blast along the bank in a southerly.

sonic
QLD, 756 posts
12 Apr 2011 1:03PM
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By not going it just allows the others to move in, keep going to the train and be vocal, if i ran everytime i didnt like something i would be running all my life.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
12 Apr 2011 2:13PM
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I just find it a bit cramped, with short runs. I prefer the fat chick on a southerly, and the hot chick on a northerly. Actually, the fat chick is growing on me a bit. I've had some good sessions there this year. Just not on a weekend.



sonic said...

By not going it just allows the others to move in, keep going to the train and be vocal, if i ran everytime i didnt like something i would be running all my life.


Magnus8
QLD, 364 posts
12 Apr 2011 2:13PM
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KenHo said...

MrSpaggiari said...

Serious problem indeed! I've noticed when sailing at gold coast they don't seem to consider the crafts around them.... obviously an experience issue....

question is, can we do anything about it?


No, you can't. It's an experience thing.
Everyone who gets on something like that for the first time will have their senses so over-loaded, all they will stare at is the front of the craft. Happens with everything, even us. How many times do people here post about making silly mistakes while gybing ? Same reason. Sensory overload, too much to think about, can only concentrate on one thing at a time.
It's a dumb place to run jet-ski hire for that reason, because unless you run a coach next to the novice, and force them to start slow until they get used to stuff, it's gonna happen every time.
The Train gets a big pass from me for that reason among others.




Ultimately its th' Gold Coast Council who sh'd bar th' liability fo' allerin' sech a business t'operate in th' Broadwater. They is colleckin' th' licence fees, an' sh'd be payin' fo' enny damages t'other water users. Clearly allerin' a Jet Ski Hire business t'operate, in sech a busy waterway is madness, it completely disregards th' safety of other water users. Move it somewhar safer.

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
12 Apr 2011 2:17PM
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If you think anyone but everyone bears the cost, yer loony. Follow the paper, and there will be an insurance under-writer eventually.
We all contribute in the end, regardless of who writes the cheque.



Magnus8 said...

KenHo said...

MrSpaggiari said...

Serious problem indeed! I've noticed when sailing at gold coast they don't seem to consider the crafts around them.... obviously an experience issue....

question is, can we do anything about it?


No, you can't. It's an experience thing.
Everyone who gets on something like that for the first time will have their senses so over-loaded, all they will stare at is the front of the craft. Happens with everything, even us. How many times do people here post about making silly mistakes while gybing ? Same reason. Sensory overload, too much to think about, can only concentrate on one thing at a time.
It's a dumb place to run jet-ski hire for that reason, because unless you run a coach next to the novice, and force them to start slow until they get used to stuff, it's gonna happen every time.
The Train gets a big pass from me for that reason among others.




Ultimately its th' Gold Coast Council who sh'd bar th' liability fo' allerin' sech a business t'operate in th' Broadwater. They is colleckin' th' licence fees, an' sh'd be payin' fo' enny damages t'other water users. Clearly allerin' a Jet Ski Hire business t'operate, in sech a busy waterway is madness, it completely disregards th' safety of other water users. Move it somewhar safer.



garyk
QLD, 277 posts
14 Apr 2011 4:02PM
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sonic said...

By not going it just allows the others to move in, keep going to the train and be vocal, if i ran everytime i didnt like something i would be running all my life.


garyk
QLD, 277 posts
14 Apr 2011 4:21PM
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Last time I sailed there was great. Got the car park under the tree, got lots of strange looks from the "MAFF" I was the only one there.
Its a BIG circle of crime underground all about pleasing the customer, getting smashed, high power water craft etc, red light. Welcome to the gold coast! Thanks for coming!

Mistral Nick
QLD, 370 posts
15 Apr 2011 5:45PM
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garyk said...

Last time I sailed there was great. Got the car park under the tree, got lots of strange looks from the "MAFF" I was the only one there.
Its a BIG circle of crime underground all about pleasing the customer, getting smashed, high power water craft etc, red light. Welcome to the gold coast! Thanks for coming!


and have nice day!

ABCELMO
104 posts
16 Apr 2011 12:34PM
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Another piece of craft we shouldn't forget is the JETBOATS. I have seen them go very close to fellow windsurfers.

....and that f@#k%^g duck (although it almost ran straight over me on the road in Surfers P!!), lucky it's slow in the water, haha.

I don't think that we should be dishartened by sailing at the train at all. At the end of the day, we have just as much right to be there as jetskis, boats, water skis, park people etc.

p.s. Hope Linda is recovering quickly and wish her a speedy recovery

Scotf
QLD, 1241 posts
20 Apr 2011 11:49AM
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It is something, I like the competency training but feel the two year period to fit limiters is a bit soft. This is a lot of time in which a similar issue could arrise.

sonic
QLD, 756 posts
20 Apr 2011 12:02PM
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Did i hear the guy who ran the swan over got a $10k fine(news last night) this guy got $500, ok i know there is a diffrence but........................

switch101
QLD, 381 posts
20 Apr 2011 6:42PM
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thats not right a person is more inportant than swan

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
20 Apr 2011 6:45PM
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Under the changes, legal speeds will be cut by 10 knots to 30 knots and group tours would only be able to travel at 10 knots


... is that a blanket speed limit, for all craft? Perhaps bad form but a fine for exceeding 30 knots on a sail craft is perhaps something you'd frame.

10 knots for groups I think is a bit much if they are out in the main channels. They'll get run down doing 10 knots in the main channels.

I went past The Train in that Super Duck bus/boat thing on Sunday (yes really) and it looked like the local jet-ski hire operator there had the course set across most of the channel (not the main channel). If it were a NE we'd have to sail through the hire jet-skis, as would all other craft. There is so much unused room further south, and probably more advertising because of all the tourists there. I don't get it.

Also like to add that a lot of jet-ski riders are actually very responsible. Seems to be mostly the guys that go out into the surf at Stradbroke though. edit: that said i can only vouch for them on the broadwater, they stand-out as they are stand-ups.

tonyd
QLD, 396 posts
16 May 2011 11:48AM
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Anybody see Jetski surfaris fool proof training setup on The Great South East (channel 7) last night. What a ****ing joke.

sonic
QLD, 756 posts
16 May 2011 5:10PM
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