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Created by Gestalt > 9 months ago, 11 Mar 2010
Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
11 Mar 2010 11:15PM
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TROPICAL DEPRESSION 13F ANALYSED CENTRE [998HPA] NEAR 14.5S 168.5E AT
110600 UTC SLOW MOVING. POSITION FAIR BASED ON IR/VIS IMAGERY WITH
ANIMATION AND PERIPHERAL OBSERVATIONS. SST AROUND 30 DEGREE CELSIUS.

CONVECTION REMIANS PERSISTENT IN THE LAST 12 HOURS. ORGANISATION
REMAINS FAIRLY GOOD. SYSTEM LIES ALONG A MONSOON TROUGH AND UNDER AN
UPPER RIDGE, IN A LOW TO MODERATE SHEAR ENVIRONMENT.
GLOBAL MODELS HAVE PICKED UP THE SYSTEM AND MOVING IT WESTWARDS OVER
THE NEXT 24 TO 48 HOURS WITH SOME INTENSIFICATION. POTENTIAL FOR THIS
SYSTEM TO DEVELOP INTO A TROPICAL CYCLONE WITHIN THE NEXT 24 TO 48
HOURS IS LOW TO MODERATE.

fitz66
QLD, 575 posts
11 Mar 2010 11:35PM
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might have to dust off the small gear

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
13 Mar 2010 7:36PM
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fitz66 said...

might have to dust off the small gear


sorry fitz, i'm not allowed to talk about it.

i am hoping the images are ones that will update.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
13 Mar 2010 7:39PM
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windshear potential

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
13 Mar 2010 7:41PM
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satelite IR image

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
13 Mar 2010 8:00PM
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jtwc track map

Bluedog76
243 posts
13 Mar 2010 7:40PM
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This is a interesting, I live in Mackay and plan to travel to Brisbane on Saturday (the 20th) and then be in Burrum Heads from Tuesday.

I think I could be securing the house and maybe heading north?? for a few days to dodge the cyclone and then south...who knows but it will be interesting towards the back end of next week....might be time to throw the outdoor furniture and shade sails in the pool again and board up the front of the house.

can you explain what the windshear chart means....I take it cyclones like to follow minimum to negative shear??

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
13 Mar 2010 9:58PM
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hi bluedog,

i'm no expert with cyclones. from what i understand you are kind of on the money.

however cyclones don't follow shear. they are steered by mid to upper weather systems i believe. to survive a cyclone needs a low leve lof shear or the top just gets ripped off and the whole thing falls apart. so low shear values are good and high shear values are bad as you have said.

i think however if a cyclone gets very big it can start to influence the conditions around it and have an effect on shear.

what to do is a hard call. cyclones tend to wander around when they hit the coral sea and time frames and tracks can vary wildly.

also the windshear map above is potential wind shear. i think it is w=orking 6 hrs ahead. it helps predict whether conditions for intensification are favourable or not.

p.s. i found this link and it is very informative.

www.wunderground.com/education/shear.asp

eggs
QLD, 246 posts
13 Mar 2010 10:13PM
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or follow this link for up-to-date banter on the future cyclone...

http://forum.weatherzone.com.au/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=843062&page=27

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
14 Mar 2010 2:19PM
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sustained winds of 140knots.

da vecta
QLD, 2514 posts
14 Mar 2010 3:00PM
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Gestalt said...

sustained winds of 140knots.


I might need to get my 4.5m out.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
16 Mar 2010 7:31PM
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BOM Track Map




Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
16 Mar 2010 7:32PM
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still early days but most models are beginning to align and point towards a possible coastal crossing between gladstone and mackay around sunday........

maybe......

Bluedog76
243 posts
16 Mar 2010 7:16PM
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I am starting to feel more comfortable. The bom have the wind model showing that it will be almost a direct hit on Mackay. As they have changed the forecast ever day so far surely it can't hit Mackay (damn, I have probably just locked it in) this far out.

Sailing on the 35ft yacht in the long offshore race off Mackay this weekend will either be very rough or cancelled.

I have seen one model saying Cooktown as a depression.....very hard to tell but I might start getting the ply out soon.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
16 Mar 2010 9:51PM
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i don't envy you at this point blue dog, who knows which way things will go. cyclones are so unpredictable........

Squid Lips
WA, 708 posts
17 Mar 2010 8:04AM
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eep


Bluedog76
243 posts
17 Mar 2010 11:36AM
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On one hand, oh crap the house....on the other, why don't I own a 3.7

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
17 Mar 2010 2:39PM
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Heading straight for Yeppoon (Capricornia) on latest BOM predictions. Looks like I'll be rigging the Ezzy 1.0metre kids rig and 20litre boogie board.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
17 Mar 2010 4:34PM
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sausage said...

Heading straight for Yeppoon (Capricornia) on latest BOM predictions. Looks like I'll be rigging the Ezzy 1.0metre kids rig and 20litre boogie board.


might need a little bit bigger mate, maybe a 2m. looking at the shear maps it may loose a bit of intensity as it approaches your front porch..... unless of course shear drops.

what's the strongest you've experienced?

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
17 Mar 2010 5:01PM
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Gestalt said...

sausage said...

Heading straight for Yeppoon (Capricornia) on latest BOM predictions. Looks like I'll be rigging the Ezzy 1.0metre kids rig and 20litre boogie board.


what's the strongest you've experienced?


9% - it was in Salzburg in a Monastery that has been brewing beer for centuries. It was below freezing and I convinced my non beer drinking girlfriend (now wife) to have half a stein to warm herself up (it's the only beer she's ever drunk in her whole life). I had two steins and felt nice and toasty.

oh, you meant cyclones. Growing up in Yeppoon in the late seventies and eighties we had a couple pass land north of us (about 100km) at St. Lawrence. Most memorable was the house constantly shaking and the windows bowing and walking on the carpet in a very old timber high set house was like a jumping castle as the wind pressure created a cushion of air underneath. We had to sleep in the centre of the house at one stage as the float glass windows would have sent shards everywhere if they blew in.

One of the eeriest things though is it will be pounding from the south-east one minute then half an hour later it swings 180degrees and repeats the process all over in the opposite direction. Usually what it hasn't overturned on it's first run through it gets on the back end.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
17 Mar 2010 6:30PM
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^ my old man was a rocky boy and doesn't have anything positive to say about cyclones.

have experienced a couple of cat1 cyclones myself but other than windows bowing, trees falling over and a few roofs dissapearing not much else really happened. oh, that's right, everything got destroyed by floods.

still was an experience and a half and got days off school.

my favourite cyclones stay offshore and give me 40 knot winds to sail in,

but cat 3-4-5 i'd just board everyhting up then pack the car and leave.

i notice now the shear map is starting to roll out the red carpet. showing decreasing shear around the coast.

gregwed
QLD, 555 posts
17 Mar 2010 8:38PM
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I remember the cyclones on the GC in the mid/late 60's when we got the day off school to bag sandbags on the Spit then deliver them by truck to one of the first high rise units on the beach, just south of Surfers. That was when Surfers Paradise had houses along the eastern side of the front road, they all got washed into the sea. We lived at Main Beach and it was pretty scary with the wind and flooding that came with them.
MEMORIES........

KenHo
NSW, 1353 posts
18 Mar 2010 8:39AM
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My memories of clonics in the 70's revolve more around the rain depressions that followed, causing massive flooding and cutting roads for days.
I do recall a few nights spent with taped up windows and flashlights at hand, but in Bundaberg, we never really got a direct hit, as they tended to bounce off Fraser Is.
We did get some very big surf though, and there is a beach there called Mon Repos, which would hold the swell rather than closing out. Some epic surf conditions in my late teens that I remember.
As Gestalt said, wind conditions are best on teh edges though, once you get toward the middle, it just gets gusty and crap.

Squid Lips
WA, 708 posts
18 Mar 2010 12:20PM
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Looks like the forecast has changed and the cyclone is going to cross land north of Mackay now, maybe around Airlie Beach. Not sure whether to be scared or excited! I think Saturday will be spent getting everything in the shed up off the floor in case it floods. Then down the beach with my pink boogey board and shred!

sausage
QLD, 4873 posts
18 Mar 2010 2:24PM
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Squid,
You guys are welcome to host Ului.
Amazing how quickly forecasts change. Next update will probably have it crossing land between Coffs Harbour and Sydney.

timomo
QLD, 38 posts
18 Mar 2010 3:10PM
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Category 5 damage to my accommodation (the one in the tree) and offices, exploration camp located at Indee station south of Port headland, 1 death(on site, 3 total). serious carnage. thankfully the homestead was built to a cyclone standard as the two previous ones had been totaled in other cyclones. Brick work cracked and moved but the roof stayed on.





Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
18 Mar 2010 8:05PM
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^^ that would be intense riding out a cat 5 !!!! glad it wasn't me.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
18 Mar 2010 8:07PM
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seems that ului is weakening..... i guess it stayed in one place to long and lost it's steam. still it's cat3 which is strong.

to throw a dart at the board i'm going for a cat2 crossing at home hill.

Bluedog76
243 posts
18 Mar 2010 6:25PM
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Still holding off on taking down shade sails (pretty heavy duty) and putting up the ply on the front of the house...hoping for a continuation of the northward trend. I like the UKMet model the most (not so much for Innisfall again).

May even get out for a windsurf Sat morning......should be well overpowered on my 4.7.

Gestalt
QLD, 14462 posts
18 Mar 2010 8:49PM
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Bluedog76 said...

Still holding off on taking down shade sails (pretty heavy duty) and putting up the ply on the front of the house...hoping for a continuation of the northward trend. I like the UKMet model the most (not so much for Innisfall again).

May even get out for a windsurf Sat morning......should be well overpowered on my 4.7.




lucky bugger

Squid Lips
WA, 708 posts
19 Mar 2010 7:49AM
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Bluedog76 said...
May even get out for a windsurf Sat morning......should be well overpowered on my 4.7.




Should be some nice waves



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