Haha leggo the only reason I take the piss out of The Dacron Disaster is because you are such a fanboy. And You easily get ultra defensive when provoked. It wouldn't matter if Former World Wave Sailing Champion Kauli Seadi BRA-253 (aka FWWSCKSBRA253) won the 2013 title on one. It'll still be funny offsetting your HSM plugs..
Guess FWWSCKSBRA253 digs the light gear too, that's why he left pryde?
*A disclaimer I have never used a Super Freak.
**Disclaimer 2, this is OT but hey 
I used to race sailing boats at a national level and the two classes I competed in over the years had dacron sails mandated by the rules, man they were horrible. One season of hard racing, sails... finished! I can't imagine 'dacron technology' has advanced much since then and even though the loads on a windsurfing rig aren't nearly as high it still doesn't sound like a good idea. If dacron was that good everyone would be using it, they aren't, not one high performance class where sail cloth isn't dictated by the rules uses dacron. The world has moved on
Does anybody seriously think we'll ever see Kauli on a superfreak for anything other than promotional shots? I don't.
word on the street is that when the factories were left with a ton of dacron - as windsurf and sail manufacturers had moved on to better technologies - hot sails came along and grabbed the lot for cheap ! smart business having super low material costs
hopefully they have found a way to make this old tech work. i liked some of their color schemes un the past - especially the aussie flag. but have really never been able to take hi percentage dacron sails seriously from a performance perspective. they might have a nice soft forgiving feel for progressing sailors though.
Anyway regardless of your fondness for the Superfreak it does not belong in the ultra light weight rig thread, they are heavy sails by any measure, even the 'UL' edition. Maybe they 'feel' light when you are sailing in a steady state but that is not what we are talking about, they are not in the ballpark when it comes to swing weight, which in the waves/freestyle is huge. Firelight yes, Superfreak, no.
Lol. Leggo the superfreakgeek always delivers.
So has anybody weighed their full rig? It's pretty easy to look up the component weight stats, but I think a total weight of an irl rig is needed.
All I own is a boom atm, so I can't get a total.
They must stop letting kids on the internet, gotta love the "but he did it first" argument.
If anyone else has complete rig weights for a brands gear, they should put them up. Severne quotes 1.65kg for the 370 gorilla, which is pretty close to what CJW weighed, so we can assume if we use a redline mast it would be close to the quoted 1.35kg? CJW, can you weigh the boom without the uphaul?
Legless, I assume as a distributor of hotsails you would have access to a 4.7 wave rig to weigh?
Will post for north platinum set up for my 2013 hero 4.7 + carbon boom + 100% carbon 400 rdm + carbon Chinook ext
Not a lot else to do when theres no wind, no surf and my downhill mountain bike is buggered
How are you weighing this? What equipment?
I'll weigh some NP, North and a SuperFreak for fun.
I have 2 superfreaks and am very satisfied...
I would also recommend Exocet's XO Fusion, 3 batten freestyle-wave sail...I bought a 6.5 2 years ago, did about 35 days on it so far and it's as good as new. Woorks with 200cm boom, 475luff...I am not sure how much it weights but it is guaranteed and tested that 6.5 XO fusion is lighter than 4.5 NS ICE(2008 model)...
Ultra light wave Sailing Rig!? I never tried the new hotsail, however I think a sail can be light and feel heavy and a sail can be heavy and feel light. I guess for most of us, regular sailor, best advice would consider a board floaty enough to go out on a 5.0 and smaller for our hability in light wind days, unless you are 100kg or the wind is onshore. Bigger than 5.0 is adding weight for nothing in side, side-off days with relatively good swell. No Gain really. Now, 0.5kg lighter??? Sail must have good range and good stability. Let say you are ok on your light sail on a mast high day and the wind is gusty. Average Joe needs to control the 5 to 8 knts more wind in the face of the wave...with gust of the day. Now, lighter sails really matters? If they got all that, Good!!
Kauli up close and personal with a GoPro mounted to his harness, somewhere above Kanaha with his SuperFreak Maui Ed. video coming soon!
Results for north:
4.7 hero = 3200g
150-200 platinum boom = 2650g
400 platinum mast = 1310g
chinook carbon extension = 400g
mast base = 300g
total = 7860g
interestingly, a 370 severne gorilla weighs more than a 400 north platinum. the north packs a bit more chub when it comes to the sail though. enigma boom weighs a bit less than north platinum, but its not fair in comparing because the severne in question is 140-190 and the north in question is 150-200
i personally dont think 1kg + or - makes that much difference. what matters to me is the feel of the sail, power, de-powering ability... a bit of weight sometimes isn't a bad thing (not just saying that because the north is 200g heavier)
Legless this is not a review thread, this is the Ultralight wave sailing rig thread. It has been supposed that the Superfreak does not fit into this category, if you disagree, weigh one and post it. Otherwise start a review thread on the Superfreak.
@ Bowsa, yeah the gorilla is a bit porky but it's tough and comes with a pretty impressive warranty, which is why I own one. I also think the difference between a 140-190 and a 150-200 boom is 20 cm of carbon which would weigh what, 10g? Either way i'd be surprised if it's more than 50g diff. Did you weigh with an uphaul?
Swing weight is everything 
*edit: swoosh beat me ^_^
jesus christ - are you two brothers in real life who argue about everything and always have to have the final say?
@CJW - yeah the north boom is probably a bit heavier, even in proportion to my slightly bigger one. and nope, thats not with an uphaul, haven't sailed with an uphaul for about 15 years (not bagging anyone that does sail with one though)
ok,
5.5 FL (trashed the 5.0), 370 powerex 85%, 48cm streamlined extension. aeron boom alloy with harness lines.
the 5.5 does not really go on the 370 but with min DH of 17cm it can, sort of, not really.
didn't have the mast base in, does it really count as rig weight as there is zero swing weight from it being so close to the board.
total weight 7.29Kags
i'll pull out the Dacron picnic rug (Barns lingo not mine) and weigh it.
