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Weed fins - Select Antiweed 39 or Choco or Jp?

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Created by Obelix > 9 months ago, 16 Jun 2011
Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
16 Jun 2011 11:42AM
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Until yesterday I used an older style JP Weed 33 and struggled to get up and planing or going upwind.

Then I tried the Select Antiweed 39 and got such a nice response from it...
Faster to plane. A great feel for the foot steering. Easy to go up-wind...liked it instantly.

I was keen to buy it when I heard a loud crack...


So I'm keen on a new fin now. I'm a bit concerned over another Select, I haven't hit anything when it broke. Also the Antiweed doesn't seem available any more.
So I'm loking for an equivalent fin.
Should I still get the Select "Weed Eliminator" or go to Choco or Jp...

The fin is for a 115 FSW board with a 7.5m sail.

Any advice from experience sailors would be appreciated.


elmo
WA, 8723 posts
16 Jun 2011 1:34PM
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The JP (G10's) 31cm and 36cm's are great all-round weedies.

Having fixed a few Select weedies they all seem to have a small (about 5-7mm thick by memory) tab on the bottom of the fin which is then molded into the base

Paul Kelf
WA, 678 posts
16 Jun 2011 2:05PM
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Obelix said...

Until yesterday I used an older style JP Weed 33 and struggled to get up and planing or going upwind.

Then I tried the Select Antiweed 39 and got such a nice response from it...
Faster to plane. A great feel for the foot steering. Easy to go up-wind...liked it instantly.

I was keen to buy it when I heard a loud crack...


So I'm keen on a new fin now. I'm a bit concerned over another Select, I haven't hit anything when it broke. Also the Antiweed doesn't seem available any more.
So I'm loking for an equivalent fin.
Should I still get the Select "Weed Eliminator" or go to Choco or Jp...

The fin is for a 115 FSW board with a 7.5m sail.

Any advice from experience sailors would be appreciated.





Re-box it & it will probably be the same size as the JP Weed, then you can do a proper comparison.
I suspect the Select worked better purely because it was bigger.

Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
16 Jun 2011 3:05PM
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I suspect the Select worked better purely because it was bigger.

I don't have enough experience with fins to understand why it worked better. You are probably correct. Have a look at my other fin. What do you think?

Re-box it & it will probably be the same size as the JP Weed, then you can do a proper comparison.

Is it be cost effective? How to about it?

JP (G10's) 31cm and 36cm's are great all-round weedies.
Having fixed a few Select weedies they all seem to have a small (about 5-7mm thick by memory) tab on the bottom of the fin which is then molded into the base


My JP is not G10. It's an older style plastic. I can imagine it flexes a lot.

Here is my other fin - next to the broken Select.



Bender
WA, 2223 posts
16 Jun 2011 3:15PM
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The old fin didn't work as well, is because it's go no where near enough area in the tip due to it being so worn.

IMHO any fin will perform light years better than that old JP thing.

Any new weedy will work ok. i would steer clear of the selects as they are not G10 and will wear out quicker and are not so flash.

Brands you can get in WA that are great straight off the shelf are

Choco
JP
Flying objects

Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
16 Jun 2011 5:34PM
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Bender said...

The old fin didn't work as well, is because it's go no where near enough area in the tip due to it being so worn.

IMHO any fin will perform light years better than that old JP thing.

Any new weedy will work ok. i would steer clear of the selects as they are not G10 and will wear out quicker and are not so flash.

Brands you can get in WA that are great straight off the shelf are

Choco
JP
Flying objects


Sounds good then. I'll be shopping for one of these.

re: Old fin -
Shouldn't I cut the tip off te old JP for smaller sails?

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
18 Jun 2011 8:37PM
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Bender said...

The old fin didn't work as well, is because it's go no where near enough area in the tip due to it being so worn.

IMHO any fin will perform light years better than that old JP thing.

Any new weedy will work ok. i would steer clear of the selects as they are not G10 and will wear out quicker and are not so flash.

Brands you can get in WA that are great straight off the shelf are

Choco
JP
Flying objects


yea stay away from those select fins if you want to go above 25 knots, not sure if it should be said but for me and my sailing rubbish to a point where they shouldnt be made, but they are really cheap, and whack some carbon on the out side and you have an okay fin....

sorry if i dont like, just really bad experience that wasnt needed

Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
19 Jun 2011 12:49AM
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I gather it broke as you hit some speed?

Ian K
WA, 4048 posts
19 Jun 2011 9:07AM
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jsnfok said...
[ not sure if it should be said but for me and my sailing rubbish to a point where they shouldnt be made, but they are really cheap, and whack some carbon on the out side and you have an okay fin....





Not sure if it should be said either but have to agree. Any pressure above 28 knots and they go into semi spin out. Must be too flexi. I'm thinking maybe an upright fin can flex and still hold its angle of attack. On a weed fin a bit too much flex and all is lost. A layer of carbon all over sounds a good idea.

K-100
102 posts
21 Jun 2011 8:29AM
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Check out the weed fins from Vector Maui Fins here www.vectorfins.com/?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=35&Itemid=53&TreeId=7

Great fins

Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
21 Jun 2011 6:43PM
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IRL250 said...

Check out the weed fins from Vector Maui Fins here www.vectorfins.com/?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=35&Itemid=53&TreeId=7

Great fins


Thanks IRL,

They look fine, but not much info on the site?
I.e. specification on the size, material, price etc.

K-100
102 posts
22 Jun 2011 7:14AM
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Obelix said...

IRL250 said...

Check out the weed fins from Vector Maui Fins here www.vectorfins.com/?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=35&Itemid=53&TreeId=7

Great fins


Thanks IRL,

They look fine, but not much info on the site?
I.e. specification on the size, material, price etc.


Hi,

You can contact Jeff via the contact section on the website here vectorfins.com/contact.html

You could also contact Jesper Orth the Australian Distributor for Vector Fins, his email is jesper@sailrepairwa.com and he has a facebook page here www.facebook.com/pages/Vector-Fins-Pacific-Scandinavia/157425237617939?sk=info

As far as i know you can request any size you want and the material of the fins would be G-10 but you could request the fin to be made from molded carbon but this would be a more expensive option

jsnfok
WA, 899 posts
29 Jun 2011 8:44PM
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well the select fins are plastic which isnt a bad thing as it makes it very cheap but only good for say up to 25 cm of fin, a 42cm plastic fin isnt stiff enough

jh2703
NSW, 1222 posts
30 Jun 2011 9:57AM
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Have a look at these, A G10 wave fin for under $150 delivered to your door. Mine should arrive this week with any luck..Maui has had a postal strike which has delayed shipping. I'll let you know what they are like when it lands in the post box.

www.makanifins.com/

I've ordered the freewave one:



But they have a freeride version as well:



Not sure how they will perform but worths a try.

Obelix
WA, 1096 posts
30 Jun 2011 11:51AM
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They look nice. Looking forward to hearing how they performed.

Contrary to all the good advice (however only as a temporary measure) I purchased the same Select fin.

Reason 1: The fin I broke was not mine, and although I offered a compensation for it, and it was generously refused, I'll give it back once I get a better fin.

Reason 2: the fin actually worked for me.

This is a temporary measure, and I'll be looking for a carbon fin as well.

Keep us posted.

jh2703
NSW, 1222 posts
30 Jun 2011 3:41PM
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Obelix, They do look sweet and the efforts they have gone through to ship the fin to me was awesome. As I said the postal service is on strike, they could have waited for it to be over before they shipped it but they took the fin with then to a demo they were doing at the Hood river in the US and shipped it from there. Don't think you'll find much better service then that.
I like the fin size calculator that they have it made picking the right size weedy very easy, I hope they're good as I've got a few more picked out.

Just got to convince them to make fins for my Thruster now!

makanifins
WA, 19 posts
10 Jul 2011 7:04AM
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By the JH2703 we are working on quads and tri fin packages and they will be available in 2012 ... also weed ones for quads

jh2703
NSW, 1222 posts
12 Jul 2011 7:17PM
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Got my makani 26cm weed/wave fin in the mail today and I'm very happy with it's build quality. I got to take it for a quick spin in lake Illawarra this afternoon and first impressions are good. I was very underpowered on a 6.7 and 112L FSW but still managed to get on the plain and test it out. It responds very well to foot steering, I would go as far as saying it's more responsive then the stock JP fin. Upwind performance was outstanding, in marginal conditions I normally loose lots of ground trying to stay plainning, this fin just wants to scream upwind. The first time I pointed it upwind caught me off guard...Very impressed!
I didn't have enough power to test it out in the gybes but it turned well and had plenty of grip, can't wait to test it out at full speed. The 26cm feel right for the 6.7, I think I'll need a smaller one for my 6.2...anyways first impressions are good.

makanifins
WA, 19 posts
13 Jul 2011 6:44AM
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Yeah Jh2703 ! I am glad the fin made it fast and you could try it soon. Thanks for the good feedbacks .. indeed the mano tracks really well and it keeps your board alive too unlike many other weed fins !

keef
NSW, 2016 posts
14 Jul 2011 8:14PM
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had a look a jase's fin today and the first impressions were dam its a power box bumma and i dont have a board it will fitwhat i did notice about the fin is it has a eva foam tab at the front base, im not sure if it's the norm for the forward boxed fins but its a brilliant idea, and looking at the fin for the price it looks gr8

makanifins
WA, 19 posts
23 Jul 2011 8:02AM
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The idea of moving the fin forward in front of the box is to keep the center of effort as close as a regular fin so you dont feel you need to change your body position and that is why many people are keeping the MANO's as their regular fin. The water line also on the board remains close to a regular straight forward fin. Fins that are not moved in front with a rake of 40 degrees or more displaces the center of effort back and that keeps the board lower in the water with more resistance and boards with rocker like FSW really suffer from that. (notice the water line when you are planning with your reg weed fin and your regular fin... with reg weed fins it will move closer to your front straps) This is waht we want to prevetn with the NAIA (freemove weed), Mano (wave weed) and the HALALUA (blade weed)

If you are using a US BOX with a weed fin place your fin as far in front as you can in the box. The only problem is that now board makers are making the us box so small you cant even move your reg fin more then a few cm ! They really dont think of all of us who ride in weedy areas. The US box dont allow us to make the fin going over the board like the TUTTLE and POWER boxes.

I hope this is clear ... first language is french .. if you have any questions dont hesitate to contact us at sales@makanifins.com

red
VIC, 738 posts
26 Jul 2011 8:56PM
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Have just ordered a Hahalua 38cm bladeweed and we'll see how it goes....

TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1651 posts
27 Jul 2011 5:06PM
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I just purchased a Auku 46 and Hahalua 28

Should be fun to see how they run.

Russ

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
27 Jul 2011 5:26PM
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Bonjour makani !!

I ordered a 36 auku trhough Laurent here in New Cal, did you receive his order ?

Just asking cause if you didn't I'll order directly to you so I can get my Tee shirt !!!!!!

makanifins
WA, 19 posts
29 Jul 2011 3:28AM
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Hey Sean ! we are having problems with customs with Laurent order he should have them soon ! Thank you for your support in Austalia guys its great ! I hope shops will be interested in carrying our brand soon so we can serve you better .. we are working on new innovative ones for 2012 .. will keep you posted as well ! We will have weed wave twins for wave twins and quads !

TASSIEROCKS
TAS, 1651 posts
4 Aug 2011 3:09PM
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My fins arrived today 7 days from Canada to Tasmania !!!!!

Super fast delivery. They look fantastic all I need now is some wind.

Tee Shirts are cool as well.

I will do a review after I have used them the HAHALLA 28 looks like a super fast fin!!!!!!!

Russ

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
4 Aug 2011 6:50PM
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gee !! that was fast.... I ordered mine on the 25th of may, still waiting for it !!!

Not makani's fault though, local dealer.......

makanifins
WA, 19 posts
6 Aug 2011 11:09PM
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Hi Sean,

I will ship to Laurent next week DHL air so it should be there fast ! Keep us updated cause we are already working on Version 2 of the slalom fins with all the feedbacks we get and the more we have the better the next one will be.

Thanx
JR

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
7 Aug 2011 11:48AM
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Thanks JR

Will be waiting impatiently, looking forward to try it.

Will give you feed back asap. (positive hopefully !! )

sean



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