Forums > Windsurfing Tasmania

Lack of motivation? Whats your fuel

Reply
Created by Jimmy b > 9 months ago, 11 Nov 2013
Jimmy b
TAS, 116 posts
11 Nov 2013 9:00PM
Thumbs Up

Just interested to see what drives everyone to do this sport at such a high frequency?
What do people use as motivation and what do you do to stay motivated?
Wave, Slalom, Speed what keeps the enthusiasm and stops us getting over it?

Anyway might be an interesting topic to discuss,

What keeps it fresh for you, whats your FUEL

FoS
TAS, 1664 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:11PM
Thumbs Up

The chance to get red thumbed when I post up an opinion on the internet

The challenge and the mates

bearhoover
TAS, 708 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:14PM
Thumbs Up

Select to expand quote
FoS said..



The challenge and the mates


Think you nailed it Fos

geared4knots
TAS, 2647 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:20PM
Thumbs Up

Well, good topic.
i would be bored s h i t less after 30 years if all i did was the same thing.
If it was not for wanting to learn some new move etc then i would just not sail i think., and probably be 20kg heavier!!
You can only do so many laps backwards and forwards before it is too much.
I think gps has saved a lot of people from perhaps giving up, along with the rediscovery of the sport on more modern gear.
If you want to stay enthused about the sport you must try something different, push yourself!! i.e if you are not falling in then you are not trying hard enough!!
Obviously a bit different if you are doing speed runs/slalom trainig etc.

Keep on pushing i say





geared4knots
TAS, 2647 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:26PM
Thumbs Up

Oh yeah Fos, sorry, i just gave you that red thumb, , you just asked for it didnt you?

Relic
TAS, 837 posts
11 Nov 2013 10:47PM
Thumbs Up

As Robby Naish said; the speed thrill we get windsurfing is similar to travelling at speeds in your car or motor bike that would see you locked up.
Those of us that windsurf are "Watermen" we feel a connection with the ocean. We a drawn to it instinctively, we feel at home on or in the water.
The surge of adrenalin we get whether riding down the face of a wave or jumping off, it going flat out in a howling gale or just a gentle cruise in a sea breeze is why we keep coming back for more.
Of course when the day on the water is done the interaction with our fellow "Watermen" is something that is priceless. There is always fun and laughter after a good sail as well as sharing of experience to encourage each other to develop and excell.
I'm so happy and grateful to be welcomed back into a group of great like minded people after a long absence. Thanks everyone!!
Disclaimer; The term "Waterman" applies equally to our opposite gender. I do not engage in political correctness.

MRspanker
TAS, 56 posts
12 Nov 2013 8:45AM
Thumbs Up

What keeps me motivated is having a drink with my mates, at the clubhouse at Snake River.




Gclark1
TAS, 546 posts
12 Nov 2013 10:16AM
Thumbs Up

I presume Jimmy b that you are interested in this as a 'real' topic, so I'll avoid the flippant, that usually prevails on "social media" and break my usual adherence to not using the absurd medium.

I have been sailing for 30 years, solely wave-sailing, except when conditions do not allow and a fallback to some alternative is required. I only have wave boards / sails for this reason. Someone has already mentioned modern gear, and I agree - my Wood Carbon EVO 66 is a killer on the water.

I have always thought that what makes the sport attractive as an activity in itself is the variability - the fact that you can guarantee that every single time that you hit the beach the combination of variables will give you something that you have never sailed before - a challenge to work it out. Compare this to a jet ski - the variables are nearly all removed, and if you have ever tried it you will find that you are bored senseless after 5 minutes. Complexity is fun - difficult is fun.

This brings me to the next point, already touched upon - trying something new. The fact is that the variability in conditions means that every time that you sail you are trying something new, in effect. Overlay on this the fact that there is some manoeuvre - carve gybe (consistent), duck gybe, jump gybe - ANYTHING! Even if you are a master at a particular manoeuvre, you are still going to stuff it up sometimes (variables) so consistency is also something to strive for.

And then there are those elusive and alluring moves - my latest has been the forward loop, and it took some sketchy efforts at the end of last summer until now to get comfortable with it. The butterflies when you are heading to a windy coast, going through the move over and over in your head. When you hit the water and just 'get a feel' for the conditions, and possibly try some tentative 'drills' to get your head right, and then of course the first attempt, where you don't really know what happened, but you didn't hurt yourself, and you have the sense that something actually worked...and so you try again. The fact that we are all in effect SELF TAUGHT is kind of interesting too.

Somewhere in the mix is most certainly pain, but that is all part of the game too. Whether it is pain from getting turned inside out on a big back loop, or that full body ache after 4 - 6 hours on the water, it is all part of the pleasure and the allure. Eventually you get your new move sorted and you just can't do it enough. The butterflies on the drive are even worse, the anticipation is uncontainable, and the adrenalin just delicious.

Others around you, going through the same stuff, handling it differently; more outwardly, or more contained. Everyone is enjoying being on the edge.

This is what makes me go back, again, and again, and again...

Kazza
TAS, 2342 posts
12 Nov 2013 10:24AM
Thumbs Up

Your mates Mr Spanker hate to say it look like a bunch of dero's!

Competitions and trying to outdo yourself and others (females that is) with the GPS. Can't beat sailing with the gang, if you know everyone else is going sailing there's no way you can hold me back. I find it's meditiation for me, extremely relaxing and I love the sea and being outdoors. And you can get away from everything out there.
New gear helps as well, like a kid with a new toy, you just want to go out there and use it and get used to it, keeps you very fresh mentally with it all. Using the same old gear year after year bores me.
Going backwards and forwards bores me but if you have a reason (gps, slalom or waves) I'm keen.

JohnnyHuett
TAS, 543 posts
12 Nov 2013 10:30AM
Thumbs Up

Superbly written

Select to expand quote
Gclark1 said..

.... all of it ....





I enjoyed reading all these.

I liken "that feeling" that we get, whether it be a good wave/jump/loop/planning run/gybe/tack/catapault, to soaring like a bird ... it's that feeling that keeps me coming back And what he said.

Kazza
TAS, 2342 posts
12 Nov 2013 11:25AM
Thumbs Up

And I forgot to mention this forum is the best thing invented, this is the biggest motivator

MrRob
TAS, 100 posts
12 Nov 2013 1:49PM
Thumbs Up

yep i'd say sailing with the gang 70 percent, conditions 30 percent. my life is a helluva lot better because of it

OldManSteve
TAS, 147 posts
12 Nov 2013 7:56PM
Thumbs Up

I started windsurfing at 45! A good mate died from a blood cancer and I ended up with some of his gear. Every time I sail I try to improve a little bit for him. I have also met some awesome people in the past two years I reckon that was his plan!!

anthony perkins
TAS, 376 posts
12 Nov 2013 8:04PM
Thumbs Up

hi Gclark 1 well said, that's the way I feel about it too ,with me it's a different discipline but the same sport.

Jimmy b
TAS, 116 posts
12 Nov 2013 8:49PM
Thumbs Up

Interesting replies guys, great reading !

Al Planet
TAS, 1546 posts
13 Nov 2013 1:10PM
Thumbs Up

When I walk past my local skate park I see some kids spending the afternoon shredding in the bowl while others just sitting around drinking boxy, both "spending time with their mates" but only the shredders inspire my imagination. I wonder what separates those kids? Why are some driven to push themselves, amped on videos of Paul Rodriguez and Danny Way and others are happy to sit around and do nothing.

Why do we choose heroes who do the extraordinary, why not admire those who's path is closer to our own. Why are we inspired by Naish, Dunkerbeck, Angulo and many others? Well before DC Comics had become an empire a guy called Friedrich Nietzsche put a bit of thought into the motivation thing and coined the term "Ubermenschen"

Like many windsurfers Fred was a guy who did his best thinking outdoors. "To climb as high into the pure icy Alpine air as a philosopher ever climbed, up to where all the mist and obscurity cease and where the fundamental constituents of things speaks in a voice rough and rigid but ineluctably comprehensible!"
Here is a guy who believed that the struggle for experience is an essential ingredient to fulfilment.

Graham Ezzy wrote an article called "The Importance of Crashes, Falls, and Wipeouts" ( http://www.surf-matic.com/the-importance-of-crashes-falls-and-wipeouts/ ) which articulates some of the difficulties of learning new skills. There is no doubt that improving at windsurfing involves a lot falling in and a certain amount of struggle. On some days the motivation is easy, the sun is out, conditions are ideal and on others the elements seem to conspire against everything you try.

Sometime I think that it is on these "tough days" that I learn the most, when nature conspires to push me out of my comfort zone and I return to shore a little humbler and with a few new bruises, but as to exactly what the motivation is I find hard to say, its like asking Homer Simpson why he likes beer.


Gclark1
TAS, 546 posts
13 Nov 2013 4:25PM
Thumbs Up

This is all rather interesting - Al has reminded me of a guy I used to skydive with - Dale - who, even after 400 jumps, still entered the aircraft utterly convinced he was about to die, and was of course even more convinced by the time he CHOSE to let go (interesting, given the up-coming movie night...ALWAYS let go?). After landing, Dale was so 'rushed' that he shook like a leaf for 15 minutes after. This guy impressed me WAY more than the people who make it look easy. Over and over and over again Dale would take himself to the absolute limit of his capacity to cope, voluntarily. His body and mind would be on the verge of shutting down. You have to admire that in a person, whether it's YOUR limit or not isn't the point; it's personal.

Sailboarding - not quite the same thing, but there is an element of this too - everyone is, as Al points out, doing something different, yes, physically, but more so psychologically. Dale always reminds me that I cannot judge other people's choices about, for example, where they sail, or what they choose to do there. We are all going to a point and we each choose to define that point differently. The great thing is that the sport ALLOWS us each to define that point within the one common field - we share, despite the difference. I like to see other people enjoying it, and I like to be able to see that they are enjoying it for their very own, different reasons.

I have always enjoyed the 'edge' - not the 'wow that is so extreme' edge, but the edge of anything. I have also always liked the OTHER elements - air and water - getting out into those adds another dimension. The attached photo is a shot of 'Greenie' at Bellbuoy, heading out into what looks like a kind of violent sea - water and wind - electing to leave the land, to let go, to head out, if only for a few minutes. The edge of the land is the edge of where we 'belong' - beyond that...all bets are off.

Of course we don't all go sailing with the expectation that we are going to die, but we are almost certainly going to be beaten - the best you can ever hope to manage against Mother Nature is a draw. A humbling experience.





Subscribe
Reply

Forums > Windsurfing Tasmania


"Lack of motivation? Whats your fuel" started by Jimmy b