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Forums > Windsurfing Victoria

Windsurfing dropped from Olympics

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Created by Scotf > 9 months ago, 7 May 2012
Scotf
QLD, 1241 posts
7 May 2012 11:17AM
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We need all windsurfers to get behind the petition to stop this rediculous decision. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/ISAF-Selects-Kiteboarding-For-Rio-2016/

echunda
VIC, 764 posts
7 May 2012 11:21AM
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Scotf said...

We need all windsurfers to get behind the petition to stop this rediculous decision. www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/ISAF-Selects-Kiteboarding-For-Rio-2016/


Goes to show that the popularity of the sport is within a continual worldwide decline.

WindRider
QLD, 837 posts
7 May 2012 12:17PM
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Here is the direct link to the petition that was created.

www.change.org/p/isaf-keep-windsurfing-as-olympic-discipline

echunda
VIC, 764 posts
7 May 2012 6:41PM
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I'm not sure why people have red thumbed what I've written

What has happened should not be shocking news to anyone out there who has been in the sport for a while (I only started 3 years ago and knew about this)

ISAF president Paul Henderson circulated an email in Dec 2003 regarding the viability of windsurfing as an Olympic event with the suggestion of removing the women's division from the 2008 Games.

Competitors from around the globe placed their submission and the ISAF accepted the submission and allowed windsurfing within the 2008 games.
As with every minority sport that features within the Olympic program, windsurfing was reviewed immediately after the 2008 games and doubts were cast on it's viability back then.

Accurate data is not available regarding the world windsurfing population, however every windsurfer must acknowledge that Kite Boarding has surpassed Wind Surfing in true numbers. The industry has acknowledged this by increasing kite boarding floor space, if you take into account the recent popularity of Stand Up Paddle boards and the windsurfing retail floor space is diminished further. The retail industry would not reduce floor space for an increasing or sustained market.
The unfortunate reality is Kite Boarding is more accessible to a larger demographic. Olympic windsurfing class is based on kit that is extremely specialised and does not represent or relate to the average windsurfer (dagger board, large sail windsurfing vs short board slalom and wave sailing).
From a commercial standpoint, I can understand (however emotionally disagree) with removing a sport that may no longer be relevant to the general sailing population. There are more kite kids than windsurfing kids, the kite industry is larger, attracting larger sponsor dollars, increasing the return on investment through high energy media packages that are sold to fuel TV, One HD etc.

If this decision was all about marketing and return on investment (my assumption), Kite boarding wins over windsurfing hands down.
It's surprising to note that the International Windsurfing Association has not recognised this decision on their website.
www.internationalwindsurfing.com/

Good luck with the petition. I'll be getting everyone I know to sign it. In the best case, we win the right to the 2016 Olympic Games however, without a dramatic increase in worldwide windsurfing population and a rapid decline in Kite Board and SUP participation (SUP is being trailed for 2016 Olympics), our fate will be sealed.

This is my opinion only and does not represent any club or association I may be involved with. I'm a passionate windsurfer (no kite in the back pocket) and all information contained above is from research conducted by myself. *no cut and pastes here!

Old Salty
VIC, 1271 posts
7 May 2012 7:41PM
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George - did you find the elephant in the room
Damn, you are just going to have to stop giving everybody a reality check!

The Olympic Committee has said for a long time that it wants to focus on sports with more appeal to the younger sports people. Despite what you think drives the decision making process with the Olympic Committee(some have suggested $), one would expect that the Kite surfing community did a better presentation than what the windsurfers did.
I read somewhere that they where supported by Richard Branson. Hats off to them.

I am a firm believer that the race is not won until it is over and I will be supporting the petition as well. I can only hope that the International Windsurfing Association puts together a mind blowing presentation.

Bondalucci
VIC, 1579 posts
7 May 2012 11:51PM
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I reckon they need to head down this track.

You want an Olympic event to be a competition representative of the kind of windsurfing people do that actually keeps them into the sport.



At the Winter Olympics, the snowboarding "boardercross" is one of the most popular events among viewers.

- It's a race that's fast, combines exciting jumps, corners etc and of course provides thrills and spills!!

Not puddling around on massive sails in 6 kts (IMHO)

windaddict
VIC, 1121 posts
8 May 2012 9:10AM
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Couldn't agree more Bondy, a supercross event would be spectacular to watch and combine racing/ and freestyle jumping. They could bring out the red bull ramp also(I'm sure flipper would like that).

K Dog
VIC, 1847 posts
8 May 2012 10:38AM
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Bondy, that would be good for the Extreme Games (Mountaini biking, skating, BMW etc)

I recon that is where the future "advertising" of the sport would be best. (I don't mean this over Olympics).

Extreme games reaches the youth, and lots of those events end up on Xboxs' etc....

Yeah, the red thumbs a bit harsh on George.... wasn't a negative comment....

echunda
VIC, 764 posts
8 May 2012 11:01AM
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windaddict said...

Couldn't agree more Bondy, a supercross event would be spectacular to watch and combine racing/ and freestyle jumping. They could bring out the red bull ramp also(I'm sure flipper would like that).



I'd love to see this in the bay.

What a great way to promote our sport. Maybe tag it onto the St Kilda Festival or Mordialloc Festival.

ka222
VIC, 633 posts
8 May 2012 1:22PM
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echunda said...

windaddict said...

Couldn't agree more Bondy, a supercross event would be spectacular to watch and combine racing/ and freestyle jumping. They could bring out the red bull ramp also(I'm sure flipper would like that).



I'd love to see this in the bay.

What a great way to promote our sport. Maybe tag it onto the St Kilda Festival or Mordialloc Festival.


RPS ran a Supercross event about 4 years ago at Elwood.. was really fun!
I think they still have the bouy's for the jumps? Let's get another one for next summer!!

WindRider
QLD, 837 posts
8 May 2012 1:44PM
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ka222 said...

echunda said...

windaddict said...

Couldn't agree more Bondy, a supercross event would be spectacular to watch and combine racing/ and freestyle jumping. They could bring out the red bull ramp also(I'm sure flipper would like that).



I'd love to see this in the bay.

What a great way to promote our sport. Maybe tag it onto the St Kilda Festival or Mordialloc Festival.


RPS ran a Supercross event about 4 years ago at Elwood.. was really fun!
I think they still have the bouy's for the jumps? Let's get another one for next summer!!


Joel can you find out if RPS still do have the sausage buoys? Flacky, Paul and I were looking at this type of event a few years back. Maybe if we already have the kit, then it's a possibility next season.

ka222
VIC, 633 posts
8 May 2012 2:14PM
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WindRider said...

ka222 said...

echunda said...

windaddict said...

Couldn't agree more Bondy, a supercross event would be spectacular to watch and combine racing/ and freestyle jumping. They could bring out the red bull ramp also(I'm sure flipper would like that).



I'd love to see this in the bay.

What a great way to promote our sport. Maybe tag it onto the St Kilda Festival or Mordialloc Festival.


RPS ran a Supercross event about 4 years ago at Elwood.. was really fun!
I think they still have the bouy's for the jumps? Let's get another one for next summer!!


Joel can you find out if RPS still do have the sausage buoys? Flacky, Paul and I were looking at this type of event a few years back. Maybe if we already have the kit, then it's a possibility next season.


Yeah it's at Elwood in the lockers

Windsurf0709
VIC, 136 posts
8 May 2012 7:16PM
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Why did SuperX get dropped? Too much of a fad?

My 2 cents. The Olympics is a pretty conservative organization. Windsurfing has been forced to remain as a 'yachting' discipline rather than progressing to reflect what goes on at PWA events i.e. slalom. Re-pitch windsurfing as slalom (and freestyle) event and sends in the like of Bjorn and co to spruik it.

kato
VIC, 3455 posts
8 May 2012 11:32PM
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Windsurf0709 said...

Why did SuperX get dropped? Too much of a fad?

My 2 cents. The Olympics is a pretty conservative organization. Windsurfing has been forced to remain as a 'yachting' discipline rather than progressing to reflect what goes on at PWA events i.e. slalom. Re-pitch windsurfing as slalom (and freestyle) event and sends in the like of Bjorn and co to spruik it.


Carn,t do it in 6kts,which is one of the requirements of the Olympics. That also leaves out formula too.

Why do we need the Olympics???? when we have our own world cups. Isn,t it the same just crappier wind and boards. We should look at this as a positive and devote more time to what we have got not what we,ve lost.

Sport does not need to be in the Olympics to be relevent,hasn,t affected surfing,golf,tennis but it had a major effect on snowboarding. The top ridders didn,t compete in the first few as it wasn,t run by their organisation. Many still dont.
Sounds like our windsurfing in the Olympics. Why don,t windsurfing pros compete????

rps
VIC, 605 posts
9 May 2012 10:40PM
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Hey Guys,
we did run Super-X events 5 or 6 years ago on the back of the then growing popularity of that format within the PWA.

To run such an event required a high level of sailing ability and as usual, scared away too many sailors that would otherwise want to participate.

From a organiser's perspective, course setting, marshalling and judging was difficult, but rewarding if and when the wind conditions were suitable.

I too am saddened at the demise of windsurfing as an Olympic sport and as a keen cyclist am also confused that many iconic track-cycling events have now been side-lined in favour of other events.

I think many sports have been diluted by other up and coming sports taking precedence in the popularity stakes and with the Olympics now commanding huge dollars in television rights world-wide, I just get the feeling the Olympic Games are now one huge commercial cash-cow for the powers that control [ manipulate] the Games.

Windsurfing has now featured in 7 Olympiads, I love kitesurfing as well and I'm not sure how it will fare as longevity wise as an Olympic sport. If it becomes a one-design sport, then it won't last. If, like snowboarding, BMX or cycling, athletes are free to choose and use what they regularly compete on, then it stands a chance.

Personally, I will continue to windsurf as I have been for the past 4 decades....for fun!

ginger pom
VIC, 1746 posts
10 May 2012 8:32AM
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I think the issue is that national sporting bodies tip a big wodge of cash into Grassroots through to Olympics style programs that generate athletes but teach a lot of kids on the side..

echunda
VIC, 764 posts
10 May 2012 11:40AM
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ginger pom said...

I think the issue is that national sporting bodies tip a big wodge of cash into Grassroots through to Olympics style programs that generate athletes but teach a lot of kids on the side..




Scotf
QLD, 1241 posts
11 May 2012 10:44AM
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Follow this link more closely on the general windsurfing site. There is a lot of good feedback there.

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/ISAF-Selects-Kiteboarding-For-Rio-2016/

TrevNewman
VIC, 237 posts
12 May 2012 4:25PM
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kato said...

Windsurf0709 said...

Why did SuperX get dropped? Too much of a fad?

My 2 cents. The Olympics is a pretty conservative organization. Windsurfing has been forced to remain as a 'yachting' discipline rather than progressing to reflect what goes on at PWA events i.e. slalom. Re-pitch windsurfing as slalom (and freestyle) event and sends in the like of Bjorn and co to spruik it.


Carn,t do it in 6kts,which is one of the requirements of the Olympics. That also leaves out formula too.

Why do we need the Olympics???? when we have our own world cups. Isn,t it the same just crappier wind and boards. We should look at this as a positive and devote more time to what we have got not what we,ve lost.

Sport does not need to be in the Olympics to be relevent,hasn,t affected surfing,golf,tennis but it had a major effect on snowboarding. The top ridders didn,t compete in the first few as it wasn,t run by their organisation. Many still dont.
Sounds like our windsurfing in the Olympics. Why don,t windsurfing pros compete????



I have to agree, Olympic windsurfing doesn't represent what the majority of the windsurfers in the world do and is not really relevant. Won't have any impact, let it slide.



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