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Adrian gives Bernd a hard time

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Created by robbo1111 > 9 months ago, 22 May 2012
robbo1111
NSW, 626 posts
22 May 2012 4:53PM
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Adrian Levy giving Bernd a hard time in Maui, at about 1.20.
We're all jealous back home Adrian!

Krusty
NSW, 441 posts
22 May 2012 10:03PM
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Ha thats funny. I could hear him goin off at him like he was being dropped in on by a mal at wanda! Shame you cant see where Adrian caught the wave from too! This perspective makes it look like hew was trying to run him down

AUS-49
NSW, 70 posts
25 May 2012 11:49AM
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Krusty said...

Ha thats funny. I could hear him goin off at him like he was being dropped in on by a mal at wanda! Shame you cant see where Adrian caught the wave from too! This perspective makes it look like hew was trying to run him down


Sup Wasted a perfectly good wave - He was lucky i didnt land on his head

stehsegler
WA, 3456 posts
26 May 2012 5:56AM
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yup... respect the locals... NOT . Not surprised most Hawaiian's get the sh!ts with tourists.

Reflex Films
WA, 1437 posts
26 May 2012 1:07PM
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Bernd was a position to make the best use of the take off and reo section

- He saw the windsurfer too deep and thought
- why let the section go to waste ??
He made the right call -
i would have done exaclty the same - regardless of craft ridden

i hate seeing good wave sections missed due to poor positioning

by the time Adrian catches him the wave is done and dusted.
But the section has been hit - as it deserves to be.

Any shouting in Hawaii in that situation= a death wish

Remember - you gotta drive through Pavillions to get to the windsurfing beach

A hit section = 1 less guy out the back waiting = more fun for everyone.

A missed section= 2 more guys hanging out the back = less waves and less fun for everyone

Happens in WA all the time too
- inexperienced sailor too deep -
clued up rider uses some local knowledge and gets a good crack on the projecting section or 3 (that would have been completely missed by the learner windsurfer / kiter- who is 50 m back trying to pump around foam)









Alberto
WA, 213 posts
26 May 2012 3:39PM
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+1
young kids and gorgeous bikini surfers first....all time! Doens matter if you are in a better position than everyone else, let them go. Pascal good example, plenty of waves there.

Reflex Films said...

Bernd was a position to make the best use of the take off and reo section

- He saw the windsurfer too deep and thought
- why let the section go to waste ??
He made the right call -
i would have done exaclty the same - regardless of craft ridden

i hate seeing good wave sections missed due to poor positioning

by the time Adrian catches him the wave is done and dusted.
But the section has been hit - as it deserves to be.

Any shouting in Hawaii in that situation= a death wish

Remember - you gotta drive through Pavillions to get to the windsurfing beach

A hit section = 1 less guy out the back waiting = more fun for everyone.

A missed section= 2 more guys hanging out the back = less waves and less fun for everyone

Happens in WA all the time too
- inexperienced sailor too deep -
clued up rider uses some local knowledge and gets a good crack on the projecting section or 3 (that would have been completely missed by the learner windsurfer / kiter- who is 50 m back trying to pump around foam)












AUS-49
NSW, 70 posts
27 May 2012 7:59AM
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really matt doesn't look like that to me...

AUS-49
NSW, 70 posts
27 May 2012 8:37AM
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Krusty said...

Ha thats funny. I could hear him goin off at him like he was being dropped in on by a mal at wanda! Shame you cant see where Adrian caught the wave from too! This perspective makes it look like hew was trying to run him down


Thats were it was caught from was a great wave till the end were i had to dodge bernd there was no wasting of the wave re holder's post

r2908
NSW, 214 posts
27 May 2012 10:39AM
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back to the valley maaaaan

AUS-49
NSW, 70 posts
27 May 2012 10:57AM
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ajswindsurfing said...

Krusty said...

Ha thats funny. I could hear him goin off at him like he was being dropped in on by a mal at wanda! Shame you cant see where Adrian caught the wave from too! This perspective makes it look like hew was trying to run him down


Thats were it was caught from was a great wave till the end were i had to dodge bernd there was no wasting of the wave re holder's post


Its great when you have it on film Ha Ha !!

AUS-49
NSW, 70 posts
27 May 2012 11:15AM
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ajswindsurfing said...

ajswindsurfing said...

Krusty said...

Ha thats funny. I could hear him goin off at him like he was being dropped in on by a mal at wanda! Shame you cant see where Adrian caught the wave from too! This perspective makes it look like hew was trying to run him down


Thats were it was caught from was a great wave till the end were i had to dodge bernd there was no wasting of the wave re holder's post


Its great when you have it on film Ha Ha !!




actionjackson
NSW, 29 posts
27 May 2012 9:43PM
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Reflex Films said...

Bernd was a position to make the best use of the take off and reo section

- He saw the windsurfer too deep and thought
- why let the section go to waste ??
He made the right call -
i would have done exaclty the same - regardless of craft ridden

i hate seeing good wave sections missed due to poor positioning

by the time Adrian catches him the wave is done and dusted.
But the section has been hit - as it deserves to be.

Any shouting in Hawaii in that situation= a death wish

Remember - you gotta drive through Pavillions to get to the windsurfing beach

A hit section = 1 less guy out the back waiting = more fun for everyone.

A missed section= 2 more guys hanging out the back = less waves and less fun for everyone

Happens in WA all the time too
- inexperienced sailor too deep -
clued up rider uses some local knowledge and gets a good crack on the projecting section or 3 (that would have been completely missed by the learner windsurfer / kiter- who is 50 m back trying to pump around foam)











... so even though Adrian was the first one on the wave, it's ok to drop in on him if you think you are:

a) more experienced
b) going to have a better time on that section than he is?

Seems a little subjective to me.

Doesn't look like he was 50 m back trying to pump around foam, nor can we tell how much speed he had to drop to avoid the SUP. Maybe he could have totally smacked it.

It's Adrian's wave and it's his call. The SUP Bernd him (pun intended)- that he then kept going on the outside of Adrian proves it.


king of the point
WA, 1836 posts
27 May 2012 8:21PM
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I always believed SUPen, SURFen, BODY BOARDen BODY BASHen = WINDSURFER Gives room and way

aus301
QLD, 2039 posts
27 May 2012 10:32PM
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king of the point said...

I always believed SUPen, SURFen, BODY BOARDen BODY BASHen = WINDSURFER Gives room and way


Right of way is right of way no matter the craft. Shouldn't matter if you are on a SUP, Windsurfer or whatever, closest to the peak has right of way, unless it is a snake.

If you are further down the line and don't think the guy will make the section then yeah take off, but if he makes it and is on top of you it's time to check out. Straight out surf rules. Bernd didn't do that.

Hooksey
WA, 556 posts
27 May 2012 11:23PM
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why SUP (or surf) at a WS spot when the wind is up and its full of WSer?

Surely there most have been better spots to go SUP that day..

stehsegler
WA, 3456 posts
28 May 2012 3:33AM
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king of the point said...

I always believed SUPen, SURFen, BODY BOARDen BODY BASHen = WINDSURFER Gives room and way


I think thats more etiquette than anything. My thinking is I try and give them right of way simply because it's a pain for them to get back out while it's easy on a windsurfer.

DieterJedan
WA, 1 posts
28 May 2012 6:13PM
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I am always going with SUP.According to me it is one of the best strategy I have ever been played.


www.globaljet.com.au/

eyeMhardcor
255 posts
3 Jun 2012 5:48PM
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The drop in rule is a bit dubious really.

Newbies and amateurs shoud take note that if someone is better than you than they have the RIGHT to drop in. 2 reasons.

1) People on the beach want to see people smacking it not "having a go"

2) The best way to learn is to watch the pros ripping.

That is why I drop in on anyone, just trying to teach. Its my way to improve the sport.

Reflex Films
WA, 1437 posts
3 Jun 2012 11:30PM
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-the point is simple

-its ok to go if the the other rider is clearly way too deep and going to miss the section all together. Often its the inexperienced guys - or those learning the break that are in this situation. They learn - and eventually end up in the correct position

This works well at crowded breaks where waves are rare and you need everyone to use what is on offer - not stacking up out the back because riders keep missing sections

of course if its a margin call give the the benefit of the doubt to the rider having a crack.

You dont want to get into the crowded surfing situation where the whole pack just sits too deep and waves dont get ridden. Seen plenty of this at crowded surf breaks and it just looks silly

DunkO
NSW, 1143 posts
4 Jun 2012 8:02AM
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reflex said-"-its ok to go if the the other rider is clearly way too deep and going to miss the section all together. Often its the inexperienced guys - or those learning the break that are in this situation. They learn - and eventually end up in the correct position"

i have never know this to be the case, normally the best, most experienced riders are deep, the guys that are learning the place are usually towards the sholder.

i half agree with you but if the rider makes the section, like adrien did, it's time to piss off.



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