Great video for surfer - windsurfer public relations -
I suppose it really depends on who was out first - if your already sailing and then surfers join you they have to deal with it - it's selfish hitting it if there's already 6 crew surfing the peak - that is a true description of windsurfing kooks
i guess i don't agree.
i reckon if you're good enough to take a shortboard out and score some clean waves then good luck to you. i don't see the difference.
watching the vid i was wondering why the surfers kept paddling out through the impact zone on a reef break instead of around the shoulder.
also wondered why the surfers kept dropping in on the windsurfers.
hi russh,
just because a windsurfer or a longboard or sup can pickup a wave further out doesn't mean they are snaking everyone.
Gestalt, you are correct, however generally most surfers dont really get a big buzz out of wavesailers boring down the line at them on a quality wave. It might be ok if they are your mates but sometimes a bit of respect goes a long way and perhaps leave your sailing till it gets windier,and, or the surfers are out of the line up.
However, i can understand that it becomes a bit more of a free for all on the East coast, as stehsegler said. SA spots are generally a bit more remote and not highly populated so it helps to be friends with others using the break
that's probably as windy as it got, otherwise there would probably be footage of when it picked up. i love wave sailing when the wind is light, clean waves are bliss.
looks to me like the sailors are respecting the surfers, straighening out to avoid collision ect. I've seen far less respect for surfers at gerroa than in this vid.
as a sailor you have to give give a little to the surfers if its a decent surfing wave, not just think every bomb wave is yours because you can take it. if you can sail it in those conditions you have just as much right to be out as the surfers.
Ok, so now I need one of those 104L Goya Quads for days like that.
Regardless of who was there first, there is a lot of skill there to be sailing so well in so little wind.
I suppose my attitude comes from past experiences - and the fact that we dont have the crowds locally that the east coast does.
Funny in the 80's and 90's (pre taking up wavesailing) when surfing was the one and only for me I always thought the "windwankers" were the arse clowns especially at a far west location when 6 of them at a time would take over the break with their wanky pink sails, fluoro sailboards and stink eye attitude - but no one said anything for fear of death - or worse 4 flat tyres a long way from the nearest tyre store.
I just didnt realise how much more fun they were having till later in life
@russh,
there are plenty of uncrowded breaks on the east coast. and plenty of breaks where people like to take turns.
usually the agro tend to need to be seen at a particular break because they read in a mag it goes off.
@CJW
+1000
unfortunately it's not about whether you're on a windsurfer or not. these same people treat all others the same way, whether you're on a windsurfer, a ski, a mal, a boogie board or even if they deem you not good enough to be surfing the same wave as them.
The green goya sail is a 4.7m??
goes to show that you dont need a big wavesail - even if the wind is light.
msq and mnsw are not the same departments. they have different regs.
in qld you must do <6kn within 30m of people swimming. it does not say anywhere you have to stay a certain distance away from swimmers, only that if your speed exceeds 6 knots you must be more than 30m away. a canoe is also considered a vessel as well as a surfski.
kitesurfers i believe must stay 30m away regardless of speed.http://www.msq.qld.gov.au/~/media/1d0f1f47-b900-4c22-9dfd-30f0e4a7130d/rec_guide_2011_2012.pdf
in nsw kitesurfers and sailboards are in the same category and there is an additional requirement to stay more than 60m away when travelling more than 10 knots.
there is also conditions placed around swimming areas like at the surf beaches.
so are the dudes in the video doing more than 6 knots within 30m of the surfers.
maybe once or twice when on the wave but generally no, there is no wind
Had to know this to get my boat license a few years ago, Sailboard is a non-powered vessel according to the NSW Maritime hand book
Picture is pulled from the handbook and it clearly shows that a sailboat/sailboard is considered in the same way as swimmers and kayaks etc
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/index.html
yeah, here is the nsw ones specific to kites and windsurfers. note with kites it includes the kite and lines.
www.rms.nsw.gov.au/maritime/index.html
^^lol,
i started wondering the same thing also. i found some info on surfline website that said to calculate the speed of a wave multiply the swell period by 1.5
so i looked up currumbin.
swell period = 9 sec
speed = 13.5 knots.
but that's in deep water so it will be less as the wave is breaking.http://www.surfline.com/surf-science/how-do-we-get-surf---forecaster-blog_56731/
still none of this will stop you getting sued if you run someone over.