I am tired of moving around with nine rigs for Racing and I haven't counted my iq gear. I think it is time for an agreement between the sailmakers to only have one racing sail line and that should be work for fin and foil. The new foils are so stable that a little backhand pressure don't send you directly in the drink. In the video I elaborate on my points. But I will like to hear what you think? Is it time for a small revolution, in order to make racing a bit more simple and cheaper.
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..
Try Patrik sails
Specifically the Patrik SF slalom Foil from last year or the medium aspect ratio from this year?!?
I have the cross over sails in 5.0 and 6.2 (for sale!) and I found that on the fin the sail felt 100% like a fin sail. Good power and flex in the chop. But on the foil the draft moved too much and when pushing for 30 knots on foil this was a marginal deterrent. So I went to the sail maker and we swapped out the battens around the boom for stiffer ones. On the water this made a huge difference. So maybe we just need a few differently battens to tweak the sail?!
Or stick to foils!
Brand X drops their dedicated fin and foil sail ranges in favour of 1 line so a few PWA sailors can carry less kit around.
They market their new sail range with the strapline of 'Its not perfect but isnt bad. Its perfectly adequate'. 
Select to expand quoteberowne said..Gestalt said..
Try Patrik sails
Specifically the Patrik SF slalom Foil from last year or the medium aspect ratio from this year?!?
I have the cross over sails in 5.0 and 6.2 (for sale!) and I found that on the fin the sail felt 100% like a fin sail. Good power and flex in the chop. But on the foil the draft moved too much and when pushing for 30 knots on foil this was a marginal deterrent. So I went to the sail maker and we swapped out the battens around the boom for stiffer ones. On the water this made a huge difference. So maybe we just need a few differently battens to tweak the sail?!
Or stick to foils!
Wasn't sure by your post. Are you on the new medium?
Select to expand quoteGestalt said..berowne said..Gestalt said..
Try Patrik sails
Specifically the Patrik SF slalom Foil from last year or the medium aspect ratio from this year?!?
I have the cross over sails in 5.0 and 6.2 (for sale!) and I found that on the fin the sail felt 100% like a fin sail. Good power and flex in the chop. But on the foil the draft moved too much and when pushing for 30 knots on foil this was a marginal deterrent. So I went to the sail maker and we swapped out the battens around the boom for stiffer ones. On the water this made a huge difference. So maybe we just need a few differently battens to tweak the sail?!
Or stick to foils!
Wasn't sure by your post. Are you on the new medium?
Race Low Aspect, Medium A, High A are the new and easy to identify sails in the Patrik range. Check out Ben Proffit interviews with Patrik at Defi for a run down of them.
The problem is that at PWA level you are looking for whatever tiny improvement in speed and control you can get. Are you going to compromise with a sail that not quite as good for each dicipline as it could be? I think the pros will say no. For us mortals, absolutely one sail could do both.
Select to expand quoteBSN101 said.Race Low Aspect, Medium A, High A are the new and easy to identify sails in the Patrik range. Check out Ben Proffit interviews with Patrik at Defi for a run down of them.
Excellent interview with Patrik
I can feel a massive difference between foil sails and slalom sails on my foils. I wont use anything else except my foil sails on foils, unless its blowing 30 knots and i have to race, then i will grab whatever i have thats small enough to get me around the course.
Why should I use foil sails on the fin (slalom board)?
Hybrid sails have messed up the party for quite some years. The requirements are just very, very different.
I think its quite funny when sponsored sailors complain about having to carry around 9 sails.
Fin and foil are quite different sports. If you want peak performance you need the kit. I dont need peak performance, Ezzy Lions on foil work ok for me, I just rig them totally differently.
Select to expand quoteKasper79 said..
I am tired of moving around with nine rigs for Racing and I haven't counted my iq gear. I think it is time for an agreement between the sailmakers to only have one racing sail line and that should be work for fin and foil. The new foils are so stable that a little backhand pressure don't send you directly in the drink. In the video I elaborate on my points. But I will like to hear what you think? Is it time for a small revolution, in order to make racing a bit more simple and cheaper.
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It all depends at what you are doing. PWA competition? Speed events? Every second counts: you need foil and fin specific sails. Anywhere else? You don't. All people I see foil freeriding use their wave sails ...
And I do not really get the point of the video. You use Point-7. They actually have a hybrid foil/fin sail line, but their competition sails have no such hybrids. Are you saying that the team that came less than inches away from winning the PWA last year should forget about having two lines of PRO level sails? Or, to put it another way, they do not know what they are doing?
But anyway, another easy solution? Pick your specialty: fins and foil do not really mix ...
