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Created by petermac33 > 9 months ago, 25 Apr 2016
petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
25 Apr 2016 2:44AM
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And going strong.

love the video at the bottom of the 105 year old.



www.sott.net/article/316976-The-healthiest-old-person-on-the-planet-explains-how-to-stay-in-shape

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
25 Apr 2016 8:48AM
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Awesome story. Although I'm still a couple of years shy of 50, there are a few things he said that I have already noticed and concur with. The first is his mention of a daily protein shake to compensate for poor protein synthesis as you age. For a couple of years I've been having a scoop of protein power in milk both before and after a sailing session, and it definitely has a noticeable effect on the recovery of tired muscles. His comments on fat intake are also interesting, and this seems to be a view that the global medical fraternity is slowly coming around on, with opinions of full cream milk and butter beginning to change. The other thing is strength training, which isn't body building, but simple strength training, has so many benefits for bone density, increased metabolism, and a host of others. Lastly, cutting out on sugar...the white death. I think he's got just about everything spot on.

ok
NSW, 1088 posts
25 Apr 2016 10:00AM
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Yogurt is full of sugar and he says not to eat sugar i'm confused..

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
25 Apr 2016 10:11AM
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Flavoured yoghurt is full of sugar. Try some plain natural yoghurt one day.

I've got my kids off the sugar train, and now they refuse to drink soft drink or eat flavoured yoghurt, etc., because they think they taste disgusting.

evlPanda
NSW, 9202 posts
25 Apr 2016 11:56AM
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Sugar is blergh! The older I get the more blergh it is.

I think M&Ms really showed me the way.

How? Someone left a pack at work in a bowl and one afternoon, around 3pm when everyone gets tired, I found the bowl of M&Ms and had a few. And then a few more, and a few more. I got the sugar rush for about twenty minutes and then crashed. Hard. In fact I felt pretty ****ty for the rest of the day until I went to bed.

You can repeat this yourself. Intentionally have a cheap sugar rush around mid afternoon. Watch the crash. Notice how ****e you feel. I've been more and more off sugar ever since that day. I am "in tune" with sugar and it's cheap come down.

AndyR
QLD, 1344 posts
25 Apr 2016 5:29PM
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Yeah dead animal flesh and fat oh and lots of dairy that is the key!!
Far out this world is educated so wrong. I my self.

I can understand people eating meat. I no longer do but I get it. But why the **** would anyone want to eat or drink dairy based products. We are the only thing on this planet that drinks the milk of another animal that is wholly produced by this animal to feed its young to get it as big and fat as possible to help its growth.

Opps here come the red thunbs


ThinkaBowtit
WA, 1134 posts
25 Apr 2016 3:37PM
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What would cows do with all that milk if it wasn't for farmers emptying their udders twice a day?

AndyR
QLD, 1344 posts
25 Apr 2016 6:09PM
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What would cows do with all that milk if it wasn't for farmers emptying their udders twice a day?


You serious?

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
25 Apr 2016 4:26PM
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freefromharm.org/dairyfacts/

kernal
WA, 541 posts
25 Apr 2016 4:56PM
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Pietro
I can not afford real milk. And only buy powdered milk.
Am I making the situation slightly better or worse by doing this?

AUS1111
WA, 3619 posts
25 Apr 2016 7:15PM
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AndyR said..
Yeah dead animal flesh and fat oh and lots of dairy that is the key!!
Far out this world is educated so wrong. I my self.

I can understand people eating meat. I no longer do but I get it. But why the **** would anyone want to eat or drink dairy based products. We are the only thing on this planet that drinks the milk of another animal that is wholly produced by this animal to feed its young to get it as big and fat as possible to help its growth.

Opps here come the red thunbs




We are the only animal that has managed to more than double its average life expectancy over the past hundred years, so comparisons with other animals seem largely irrelevant.

The simple answer to your question is that we need the calcium and dairy is a very good way of getting it.

Rex
WA, 949 posts
25 Apr 2016 7:22PM
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Don't underestimate the roll of good fortune and good genetics in longevity.

AndyR
QLD, 1344 posts
26 Apr 2016 9:46AM
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AUS1111 said..

The simple answer to your question is that we need the calcium and dairy is a very good way of getting it.


The simple answer is you are wrong. it isn't a very good way of getting it.
if you use the internet to research some clinical studies and gather information from reliable published articles you will find that
dairy is not a good way to get our calcium at all.

There has been a large clinical study done in Sweden over 20 years that proved the women that actually had the recommended amount of milk a day had more bone fractures and developed bone weakness than the ones that had little or no milk.

There is a large push to prove at the moment that drinking cows milk is actually leeching the calcium from our bones and making them weaker. These findings are coming from well educated researchers.
YEAH I know hard to believe of course it is we have been educated to believe milk is good for us. WHY? because the dairy industry is HUGE how much has the DAIRY industry spent in advertising in media, schools, governments to promote dairy over the last 50 years. I would say it is had the most advertising out of any food group.

you can find plenty of information on the net that states out of a cup of dairy milk we are actually only absorbing around 35% of the calcium in that cup of milk.

Calcium is essetional for the human body it is a very important mineral they recommend we need around 1000mg for an male adult a day..
So where does calcium come from??? Oh thats right its a mineral that is found in our soil. So why not get it directly from the source and eat a diet rich of plants that are high in calcium instead of getting if from a animal that wait a minute we NEED TO PROCESS THAT MILK before our government even says its safe for us to drink..

below is a snippet from just one published article. academic.oup.com/ajcn/article/89/5/1638S/4596954
from the "american journal of clinical nutrition"

Although cow milk has been widely recommended in Western countries as necessary for growth and bone health, evidence collected during the past 20 years shows the need to rethink strategies for building and maintaining strong bones. Osteoporotic bone fracture rates are highest in countries that consume the most dairy, calcium, and animal protein. Most studies of fracture risk provide little or no evidence that milk or other dairy products benefit bone. Accumulating evidence shows that consuming milk or dairy products may contribute to the risk of prostate and ovarian cancers, autoimmune diseases, and some childhood ailments. Because milk is not necessary for humans after weaning and the nutrients it contains are readily available in foods without animal protein, saturated fat, and cholesterol, vegetarians may have healthier outcomes for chronic disease if they limit or avoid milk and other dairy products. Bones are better served by attending to calcium balance and focusing efforts on increasing fruit and vegetable intakes, limiting animal protein, exercising regularly, getting adequate sunshine or supplemental vitamin D, and getting ≈500 mg Ca/d from plant sources

apologies for Hijacking thread. besides the nutrition side of things I think the old guy is a legend and doing plenty of things right!

japie
NSW, 6937 posts
26 Apr 2016 11:42AM
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AUS1111 said..

We are the only animal that has managed to more than double its average life expectancy over the past hundred years, so comparisons with other animals seem largely irrelevant.

The simple answer to your question is that we need the calcium and dairy is a very good way of getting it.


The life expectancy of animals in their natural state has not changed or fluctuated throughout history because they are incapable of consciously manipulating their environment and their habits.

The life expectancy of humans has always fluctuated according to life style and the environment they live in. So you could quite as easily argue that the same humans whose life expectancy has doubled over the last century had managed to reduce their life expectancy by half prior to that by adopting, for example, insanitary high density living habits and poor diet.

Dairy is not a good way of providing calcium. It is a good way to produce snot.

wave knave
306 posts
26 Apr 2016 10:18AM
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i like cheese, i think its nice ,
when i eat cheese i have it twice,
i like the taste, i like the smell,
i like cheese, i think it's swell

Haircut
QLD, 6481 posts
26 Apr 2016 5:16PM
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good genes - some people are lucky enough to hav'em, sadly some people don't. he's probaly one of the lucky one's who could smoke 2 packs a days from 15yo, and reach 101

Adriano
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27 Apr 2016 6:03AM
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AUS1111 said..

AndyR said..
Yeah dead animal flesh and fat oh and lots of dairy that is the key!!
Far out this world is educated so wrong. I my self.

I can understand people eating meat. I no longer do but I get it. But why the **** would anyone want to eat or drink dairy based products. We are the only thing on this planet that drinks the milk of another animal that is wholly produced by this animal to feed its young to get it as big and fat as possible to help its growth.

Opps here come the red thunbs





We are the only animal that has managed to more than double its average life expectancy over the past hundred years, so comparisons with other animals seem largely irrelevant.

The simple answer to your question is that we need the calcium and dairy is a very good way of getting it.


Nah, cream and blue cheese just rock! We can get calcium form any number of sources. You're still living in the '80's.

FormulaNova
WA, 14735 posts
27 Apr 2016 11:38AM
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Haircut said..
good genes - some people are lucky enough to hav'em, sadly some people don't. he's probaly one of the lucky one's who could smoke 2 packs a days from 15yo, and reach 101


I think even then, you don't try and stack the deck against you. One of my grandfathers died from emphysema/lung cancer at 84. The other died from a heart problem at 63. The one that died at 84 probably would have lived another 20 years if it wasn't for the smoking. He was very fit and very active. Good genes or bad, smoking is going to get you and you won't accept it until its too late.

Reading between the lines, is this 96 year old only taking protein shakes or also taking HGH or steroids? I suspect that either of these would make your physical age retreat a bit. Its just that there are not enough 80 year olds trying them to really tell you what effect they have on someone that old.




Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
29 Apr 2016 11:31AM
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I thought this thread was about 96, the TV show...



Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
29 Apr 2016 2:08PM
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Loftywinds said..
I thought this thread was about 96, the TV show...





holy **** lofty where did you find that

did the misses put a porn blocker on your computer and thats the only incest movies you can get ?

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
1 May 2016 8:09AM
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Kozzie said..

Loftywinds said..
I thought this thread was about 96, the TV show...






holy **** lofty where did you find that

did the misses put a porn blocker on your computer and thats the only incest movies you can get ?



LOL... nah. I just remember 96 the show. It's a classic now

kernal
WA, 541 posts
1 May 2016 9:17AM
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Kozzie said...
Loftywinds said..
I thought this thread was about 96, the TV show...





holy **** lofty where did you find that

did the misses put a porn blocker on your computer and thats the only incest movies you can get ?




It was part of a government inituitive program they trialed in townsville years ago to try make everyones eyes not be so close together. It did not really work the locals just used it as a tool for a great excuse to get out of trouble when the spouse finds you inbreeding.



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