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Anyone know if modern cars have quarter-glass

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Created by nicephotog > 9 months ago, 18 Aug 2019
nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
18 Aug 2019 2:56PM
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Anyone know if modern cars are still produced WITH quarter-glass windows (swing a triangle glass out in front of the driver and front passenger window doors) ,
any models make ???

Alike this....
HK "2 speed Powerglide" "6 cyl 161 Cu Icnch"








Think 50K if ever , its hens teeth...

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
18 Aug 2019 2:15PM
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Na, they all come with this new thing called aircon instead, sounds like sales sprook to me though.

FormulaNova
WA, 14727 posts
18 Aug 2019 2:19PM
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Its funny. I keep watching the 'FastNLoud' series on pay TV. You see all sorts of cars trying to be sold.

There are a lot of people out there that think their special piece of automotive history is worth a lot of money. Admittedly, they deal in America on the show, but you still have people with these rusted out cars that need a LOT of money spent on them, thinking they are worth far more than they really are.

The show shows you how much effort really has to go into them in order to make them good cars, and its a lot. This is from a workshop that has all the equipment, the knowledge, and the skills. For anyone else it would be a very expensive project, or a project that you do yourself that would probably never finish.

Some of the cars that they see are described as 'ready to paint', and when they arrive its a rusted out wreck where a lot of the original parts are missing, and still the owner thinks its going to pay for his kid to go to college.

If someone offers you $50K for an old Kingswood ute, take it!

FormulaNova
WA, 14727 posts
18 Aug 2019 2:25PM
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If someone offers you $20K for an old Kingswood ute, sell it. If they go down to $10K or less, make sure you don't fill the tank for them.

Imax1
QLD, 4716 posts
18 Aug 2019 7:33PM
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I had , not that long ago , an old Valiant , it had a 200 x200 closable flap door , either side at feet to let moving wind in .
Fantastic . Half open windows , kinda like air conditioning.
Worked great. No moving parts , no cfcs.

Can't do that now , oh no , someone will sue for some reason

Ian K
WA, 4049 posts
18 Aug 2019 6:02PM
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Imax1 said..
I had , not that long ago , an old Valiant , it had a 200 x200 closable flap door , either side at feet to let moving wind in .
Fantastic . Half open windows , kinda like air conditioning.
Worked great. No moving parts , no cfcs.

Can't do that now , oh no , someone will sue for some reason


Now I remember.


What we probably don't remember is the quality of the pre-emissions air that came through those boxes when following traffic. The old classics are good to see about but they all seem a bit smoky and on the nose now. What's the choice for the restorers. Put in a modern IC motor or go battery powered? A big job either way. Supply might exceed demand for old classics shortly. Take Formula's advice..

Imax1
QLD, 4716 posts
18 Aug 2019 8:18PM
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^^^
mine was probably next model.
Unless following a Smokey car through a small tunnel , it's probably quite good.
Let me know if I'm wrong , I've read , it's worse to use the recycle air button than to open a window no matter what the conditions ?

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
18 Aug 2019 8:59PM
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I was having this conversation a few months ago- quarter windows used to be standard. My 96 Hilux has quarter windows- but in general the quarter window is almost extinct.

Clarence

Ian K
WA, 4049 posts
18 Aug 2019 7:21PM
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Imax1 said..
^^^
mine was probably next model.
Unless following a Smokey car through a small tunnel , it's probably quite good.
Let me know if I'm wrong , I've read , it's worse to use the recycle air button than to open a window no matter what the conditions ?




The AP6. You might be right. A work colleague of mine was a researcher in indoor air pollution. He let loose his detectors on a few cars. His advice to me was "Never buy a car less than 3 years old". The volatile organic compounds that are released from the inside of a new car are intense. I suppose if you must get a new car let it cook it in the sun as much as you can and drive it with the windows down until it properly cures.

actiomax
NSW, 1575 posts
18 Aug 2019 10:46PM
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That's why modern cars don't come with vinyl seats to much emission of gas when hot .
By law that had to be changed but car manufacturers didn't say that they sold it all as free upgrades to cloth seats.

Mark _australia
WA, 22412 posts
18 Aug 2019 8:57PM
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i reckon last was he Troopie about 4yrs ago. None since then...?

Then again, nicephotog - why are you asking? Strange question.... You seem to make nonsensical posts often. Are you a chatbot regurgitating a HK ute ad?

How much do you want for the HK ute?


firiebob
WA, 3145 posts
18 Aug 2019 9:15PM
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Imax1 said..
I had , not that long ago , an old Valiant , it had a 200 x200 closable flap door , either side at feet to let moving wind in .
Fantastic . Half open windows , kinda like air conditioning.
Worked great. No moving parts , no cfcs.

Can't do that now , oh no , someone will sue for some reason


This is mine, quarter windows and those under dash flap doors Imax, works fine .




lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
18 Aug 2019 11:16PM
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quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.

FormulaNova
WA, 14727 posts
19 Aug 2019 5:55AM
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lotofwind said..
quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.


Sadly, a crap driver can almost nuetralise all that modern tech. A mate who drives like an idiot tells me his car is so great and has all these features. I got a lift with him once from the central coast back to Sydney and in light rain he was sitting only 2 car lengths behind another car at 110kmh when one left lane was completely empty.

I wonder when they are going to bring in an idiot detector? I guess there should already be that feature, but his car didn't have it. There should be some warning tone telling him he is too close to the car in front at that speed, which is sad, as a decent driver should already know that. (Sadly I know that his car has assisted braking and no doubt a gazillion airbags, so when he does run up the back of another car, at least it won't be as hard.)

Lotofwind you are going to have a problem if you ever get old. You aren't going to be able to tell about the awesome music or cars of your generation, because you missed out. Once people get tired of you blaming everything on the previous generation, what are you going to have to say?

Marsbars
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19 Aug 2019 7:04AM
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lotofwind said..
quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.


So much easier to drive and yet passing rates for a drivers licence are falling go figure????

Imax1
QLD, 4716 posts
19 Aug 2019 9:37AM
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Marsbars said..

lotofwind said..
quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.



So much easier to drive and yet passing rates for a drivers licence are falling go figure????


And thats in autos. Not many people going for manual licences , Too hard , too tired ?

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Aug 2019 10:19AM
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Marsbars said..
So much easier to drive and yet passing rates for a drivers licence are falling go figure????



That's because they actually test people now, not just give it to you at the police station like they did in the old days.
They did an experiment a few years ago where they gave 100 elderly 50 to 60 year olds the current written driving test, only 17 past it. lol.
Once people get over 50 they should have to pass a yearly driving test to prove they are still fit to be behind the wheel of a car.
Some of the old people you see trying to park their car at the supermarket is just plain scary......and their on the highway with us doing 100 k's, when they cant even park without someone guiding them.

Marsbars
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19 Aug 2019 8:46AM
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lotofwind said..

Marsbars said..
So much easier to drive and yet passing rates for a drivers licence are falling go figure????




That's because they actually test people now, not just give it to you at the police station like they did in the old days.
They did an experiment a few years ago where they gave 100 elderly 50 to 60 year olds the current written driving test, only 17 past it. lol.
Once people get over 50 they should have to pass a yearly driving test to prove they are still fit to be behind the wheel of a car.
Some of the old people you see trying to park their car at the supermarket is just plain scary......and their on the highway with us doing 100 k's, when they cant even park without someone guiding them.


You are lucky they don't have spelling or grammar included in the test

Mark _australia
WA, 22412 posts
19 Aug 2019 9:08AM
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lotofwind said..
quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.


Those electronics aren't the saviour that we hoped they would be. Blind spot detection becomes relied upon, and people glance less often or faster glances- so when the system does not work they have serious crashes. eg blind spot warnings pick up motorcycles much less, old study said 26%. Motorcyclists already get hit enough as it is....
Some lane departure warnings give so many false warnings on our rural or edge of the city kinda poor single lane roads that people then ignore it - and thus crash when they're a real warning.

About the only one I like is the auto park - as its a PITA to sit behind somebody in my main street trying 15 times to back into a parallel park and just fk it up over and over.

BTW a quarter glass window does not go up and down, as usual in your attempt at a pisstake you make yourself look ignorant.

nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
19 Aug 2019 11:08AM
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lotofwind said..
quarter glass window ??????????????? lol
windows you have to wind up, round and round, with little handles ?????? lol Need a mechanical "key" to open????? lol
Thank god the olden day flintstone car days, with no Bluetooth, lane assist, or reverse cameras, are gone.


Shows how young you are.....NB Many of the driverless car drivers are gone at that level (and spectacular fails!)

nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
19 Aug 2019 11:10AM
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clarence said..
I was having this conversation a few months ago- quarter windows used to be standard. My 96 Hilux has quarter windows- but in general the quarter window is almost extinct.

Clarence





[ ( The pictured 67 HK at the beginning of the thread )No it is not for sale !!! - it is a relatives car - it was willed to him and his wife from mums dad - the first time i rode in it i t was 2 years old ]

So in a 96 Hilux do these swing open the same way as the H series and E series Holdens?

nicephotog
NSW, 251 posts
19 Aug 2019 11:19AM
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Mark _australia said..
i reckon last was he Troopie about 4yrs ago. None since then...?

Then again, nicephotog - why are you asking? Strange question.... You seem to make nonsensical posts often. Are you a chatbot regurgitating a HK ute ad?

How much do you want for the HK ute?





[ ( The pictured 67 HK at the beginning of the thread )

No it is not for sale !!!

- it is a relatives car - it was willed to him and his wife from mums dad - the first time i rode in it i t was 2 years old ]

If it ever does get sold it will be to a collector by Auction !
Until then it's in use , as both owners were/are farmers.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Aug 2019 12:05PM
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Mark _australia said..
BTW a quarter glass window does not go up and down, as usual in your attempt at a pisstake you make yourself look ignorant.



Oh no.... an anonymous poster on the interweb thinks I might be ignorant lol

No I wasn't talking about the little playschool triangle window that you have to manually push open, lol
Was talking about all the other windows that you have to take your hands off the wheel(dangerous) to wind up.
Lucky now that no cars are made like that anymore. Was in an old school car the other day, would have been built way back in the late 90's, made me laugh at the little crank handle to open the window. ha ha haaa

FormulaNova
WA, 14727 posts
19 Aug 2019 10:16AM
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lotofwind said..
Was talking about all the other windows that you have to take your hands off the wheel(dangerous) to wind up.


Taking your hands off the wheel is dangerous? What stuffed up lesson taught you that? I hope that was just you trying to be humorous.

Anything like that becomes a secondary priority to driving. You don't just decide to wind the windows up or down as you are heading into a blind corner at night. The same way as you don't do the same thing with electric windows.

You can certainly drive without both hands on the wheel, but you don't do it at stupid times.

I think its worse now. People are so obsessed with their phones and get bored so they start checking things on their phone. Its not just a quick glance down now to check what the radio station is, its a full-on concentration on the topic, and then trying to reply back on a stupid keyboard on the screen.

I think car audio design has gone backwards. You need to use touch displays a lot now. Which makes no sense as a decent design could allow you to do a lot of things without needing to look at a screen.

In some ways the old school car controls were better.

FormulaNova
WA, 14727 posts
19 Aug 2019 10:22AM
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nicephotog said..

If it ever does get sold it will be to a collector by Auction !
Until then it's in use , as both owners were/are farmers.[/b]


Don't mislead your relative by making them think its worth more than it really is. People are silly, and someone will no doubt say 'yeah mate, that's worth 20k at least' and then another will tell you 30 or 40 or 50. All numbers pulled out of the air. No background knowledge, no comparisons, just that they saw 'something similar go for heaps at an auction'.

I know my way around cars, and I have a fondness for XM or XP falcon stationwagons as that's what my parents had when I was a kid. I found two on gumtree recently, for a low price, in an area close to me. Am I interested? No way. I have spent enough money on cars over the years to know that I don't want a project car that's going to take forever and still be an old car at the end of it.

I have been spoiled by having cars at least with airbags and abs and I am just not keen on having an old car without these as a minimum.

Mark _australia
WA, 22412 posts
19 Aug 2019 10:46AM
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lotofwind said..
Oh no.... an anonymous poster on the interweb thinks I might be ignorant lol

No I wasn't talking about the little playschool triangle window that you have to manually push open, lol
Was talking about all the other windows that you have to take your hands off the wheel(dangerous) to wind up.
Lucky now that no cars are made like that anymore. Was in an old school car the other day, would have been built way back in the late 90's, made me laugh at the little crank handle to open the window. ha ha haaa


Sorry lets go back to the original topic thread then, which is quarter windows

Your contribution on that was:

"quarter glass window ??????????????? lol"

Wow. Insightful AF.

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Aug 2019 1:00PM
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^^lol If its insightful reading your after, why do you keep reading my posts.lol


What was your insightful info on quarter glass windows.....that they don't wind up and down...wow..genius lol

They don't do the old push open windows anymore as there are better, safer options so they are now obsolete, simples.

crustysailor
VIC, 870 posts
19 Aug 2019 1:45PM
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quarter glass windows, no probably not.

But you can still be a Land Rover defender, with wind out front flaps.
Great for that 'bugs in your teeth' look.

amirite
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19 Aug 2019 6:01PM
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lotofwind said..
Some of the old people you see trying to park their car at the supermarket is just plain scary

lotofwind, ugly old dude
pretends to be hot young mum

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
19 Aug 2019 8:17PM
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^^I love you except for when u ask me to dress like your mum

Don't get why some are being soooo protective of the old fashioned little tringle windows ??
What was so good about them over todays full window ?? Was it because there was no AC in cars, wasn't invented back then ???

Some people seem to see their quarter glass as 3/4 empty instead of a quarter full.

amirite
350 posts
19 Aug 2019 6:38PM
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old dude wants window down now
pivots wrinkly hand impatiently



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