Drink Driving and Insurance (OT)

Why does he need car insurance? Being well over double the limit, he shouldn't have a driver's licence anymore as far as I'm concerned.

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Harrow said..
Why does he need car insurance? Being well over double the limit, he shouldn't have a driver's licence anymore as far as I'm concerned.

And one of the ridiculous things is they go to a Rehab course where the offenders get given a blood alcohol concentration calculator see image below
so they can then use this prehistoric device to calculate blood alcohol levels. Just spin the wheels according to body weight and number of drinks and this paper device tells you your Bac.

Wtf



And another point is that you have to drive again to get your license back, you can't simply just not drive and wait until you are on a full license. The law now Is you must complete a given time with the interlock and on 0.00 bac before you requalify for a full licence. This is to prove you can drive sober.

We have a breatho in the site car, it is a drager model and is the best 200 bucks spent.
I got one for when we go beach fishing/surf trip up the coast, i don't want to be seen as an adult but I know a few times I think I was ok after a day surfing and evening fishing with beers and a nap in the swag the breatho has made me go back in the swag for a couple more hours or cook up my fish that was caught night before.
honestly best money ever spent there is no argument and knowing it's there and you know exactly where your at eradicates any chance of being a hazard on the road

in regards to insurance my friend got done and left his nice new hilux in the carport for 2-3 years and bought a 1000 bucker ( few years back now, the premiums reduce after certain time??)and just got third party..
if you can get full insurance you will be stung hard

I was with a friend and his son once, we were first on the scene of an accident where a drunk driver had been on the wrong side of the road and driven head first into a four wheel drive carrying a family; mum, dad, two young girls, grandma. The Grandma and two young girls hadn't been wearing seatbelts, you could see three places in the windscreen where mum and dad who were in the front and one of the girls who had been in the back had flown through the car and smacked their heads on the glass. Mum died of her brain injuries, Grandmas arm was almost severed, she'd somehow gone under one of the front seats and into the frame work, I can't even begin to understand the physics of how that happened, when the paramedics went to take off her cardigan her arm from the shoulder pretty well came with it. One of the young girls was relatively unscathed, the other had a broken arm and eye injuries, she was tiny, maybe six, dad was trapped in the car, had to be cut out, Jaws of Life, he was worried about who would take care of their pets at home, he couldn't even look at his wife, just too much, I guess, shock and denial. The driver on his own in the other car had a great big knot of skin hanging down his forehead that was flapping around but he didn't seem to notice, and his legs were pretty well gone from the knees down where the front of the car, engine, etc, had impacted in on him, bone, blood, meat, you could smell the alcohol on him, he was still conscious, he didn't even know he'd hit another car. The father in the four wheel drive said to me that the last thing he'd done before impact was turn to his wife and say, "I'm on the right side of the road aren't I?". When I said to the drunk driver, talking to him in an effort to keep him conscious, that they were just getting the guy out of the other car and then would come for him, he said, 'what car?', he didn't even know he'd hit another car, let alone a four wheel drive with a family in it. This happened maybe twenty years ago, I don't begin to know how paramedics, police and firies face this day after day. I think about this to some degree pretty much everytime I drive my car, it's the reason I don't tailgate, I don't drink drive, I do the speed limit, no more, no less unless conditions dictate, I don't hoon, I drive a Corolla and I drive like your Nana, I'm as boring as f@#$! on the road and I like it that way. People are going to survive to go home to their loved ones because of the way I choose to drive. I can still remember being in the shower after this and washing their blood off me. I still feel even after all this time traumatised by this event. Drink driving, just don't, life's too precious and gone in an instant. I wouldn't insure your mate either, just too risky, like giving him permission to go out kill someone and get his car fixed, like that's the main concern.

5 years of no insurance is a small penalty to pay for such a brainless decision. Do the crime...

Yes you're still held accountable if drunk and have a crash, there are some circumstances where you might not be but that's getting into the finer points of criminal law and wilful intent. I'd expect every state in Australia now has their offences related to serious crashes and drunk driving pretty tight. They're slowing getting to the point where fatal crashes are seen in the same light as manslaughter etc. Historically society as a whole viewed crashes as 'accidents'.

Your example of rape is different and incorrect anyway. A drunk person can be held accountable at law for their actions but for sexual assault it's consent while intoxicated that you're referring too. An intoxicated person can't necessarily give consent, sex without consent, or consent obtained by deceit is most likely to be a serious offence (again that's complicated). But on the flip-side a drunk person can still give consent, implied or otherwise. Geez, if drunk sex were illegal I think we'd all be in a lot of trouble.

Consent and sex assaults is a challenging issue for victims, accused, police and the courts and when you look at both sides of the arguement it's more emotive than the shark cull thread.