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Created by Shifu > 9 months ago, 21 Jul 2016
cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
22 Jul 2016 7:49PM
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Shifu said...
I never said I wanted three phase. I'm just sorting out the nomenclature so I know what I am doing when I buy something.


I take it humour was in SHORT supply in your household

Shifu
QLD, 1960 posts
22 Jul 2016 10:05PM
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cauncy said...
Shifu said...
I never said I wanted three phase. I'm just sorting out the nomenclature so I know what I am doing when I buy something.


I take it humour was in SHORT supply in your household


Don't ARC up mate!
(Yeah I didn't read closely enough)

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
22 Jul 2016 8:08PM
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Shifu said...
cauncy said...
Shifu said...
I never said I wanted three phase. I'm just sorting out the nomenclature so I know what I am doing when I buy something.


I take it humour was in SHORT supply in your household


Don't ARC up mate!
(Yeah I didn't read closely enough)


Now you with it

decrepit
WA, 12161 posts
22 Jul 2016 8:18PM
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SP said..
>>>>> 3 phase is 415v single is 240volts so they are completely different power and attachment.

>>>




Well I guess if you were being pedantic you could say it depends if the 3phase appliance is wired star or delta. If it's star you have 3 elements wired from each of the 3 actives to neutral, so all of them are still 240v.
In delta there's no neutral connection and each element goes between different combinations of actives, so all 3 are 440v

busterwa
3777 posts
22 Jul 2016 8:19PM
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Watts goin on?

Mark _australia
WA, 22414 posts
22 Jul 2016 8:54PM
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ohmygod



Smithy
VIC, 858 posts
23 Jul 2016 12:11AM
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Lots of bad advice in this thread, shame the red thumbs have gone... There is a reason it is a licensed trade...

A 15a outlet is not a GPO and cannot be on the same circuit. It must be a dedicated circuit on an appropriate dedicated breaker / RCD at the switchboard.

Just because you can and it seems to work doesn't make it right or safe. I have seen people fry their TVs, fridges and wiring by changing the 15a plug top so they could run welders on 10a GPOs.

Oh and if by chance you do cause a fire when they discover it was non compliant wiring you won't get a cent from insuracnce...


cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
22 Jul 2016 10:13PM
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busterwa said...
Watts goin on?


You TRIPPER

Greenroom
WA, 7608 posts
23 Jul 2016 12:24AM
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For starters a 15A outlet can be wired in 2.5mm2 2C+E from a 16A circuit breaker.
If you want to know more or want some work done at your house then it's $90 an hour plus GST

Beaglebuddy
1595 posts
23 Jul 2016 4:59AM
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If you plan on building furniture you will need something more substantial and more precise than a portable table saw.

HENDO 77
WA, 286 posts
23 Jul 2016 7:54AM
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A 10 AMP GPO IS DONE 2.5 AS WELL AND CAN CARRY UP TO 25 AMPS .IF YOU OVERLOAD IT , IT WILL TRIP
BUT AS ABOVE NO INSURENCE IF SOMETHING GOES BAD.
IF IT DOES PUT THE SAW IN YOUR BOOT AND DENY ALL
NEW FOR OLD .IMAGINE THE SHED YOU COULD HAVE

busterwa
3777 posts
23 Jul 2016 5:49PM
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Greenroom said..
For starters a 15A outlet can be wired in 2.5mm2 2C+E from a 16A circuit breaker.
If you want to know more or want some work done at your house then it's $90 an hour plus GST


What about
Tax inspector Jim quick hide the receipts haha

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
23 Jul 2016 7:59PM
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BTW, some of you may find it interesting to know that according to the Australian Standards (AS60038), the official voltage in Australia is 230 volts, not 240. This has been the case since the year 2000. Not all the states have adopted the standard yet.

This is following a decision made in 1980 by the IEC (International Electrotechnical Committee) to align the 220, 230, and 240 voltage standards found throughout the world to a single 230 volts standard, which will ultimately reduce production costs of electrical appliances.

Shifu
QLD, 1960 posts
23 Jul 2016 10:17PM
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Was able to have a quick peek in the shed today prior to taking possession. Lots of powerpoints! (and free BBQ) Any good insulation strategies to handle the Queensland heat?







sn
WA, 2775 posts
23 Jul 2016 9:44PM
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Shifu- P.M. sent


stephen

busterwa
3777 posts
23 Jul 2016 9:53PM
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cauncy said..




busterwa said...
Watts goin on?






You TRIPPER





Sorry Id like to sorta alternate my current status. I like electricians but there probably the most laziest fecks I ever worked with. Depending on isolations levels and your trade. your on shift electrician is best friend ;-) As hard as it is to get them to work They do a wonderful Job. There a person that protects us and gives us confirmation of there energy dissipation A good electrician will provide a safe confirmed working environment.



decrepit
WA, 12161 posts
23 Jul 2016 11:39PM
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Harrow said..
BTW, some of you may find it interesting to know that according to the Australian Standards (AS60038), the official voltage in Australia is 230 volts, not 240. This has been the case since the year 2000. Not all the states have adopted the standard yet.

This is following a decision made in 1980 by the IEC (International Electrotechnical Committee) to align the 220, 230, and 240 voltage standards found throughout the world to a single 230 volts standard, which will ultimately reduce production costs of electrical appliances.


I'm fairly sure here in Mandurah, most of the time we're on 250v.

FormulaNova
WA, 14731 posts
24 Jul 2016 6:49AM
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Harrow said..
BTW, some of you may find it interesting to know that according to the Australian Standards (AS60038), the official voltage in Australia is 230 volts, not 240. This has been the case since the year 2000. Not all the states have adopted the standard yet.

This is following a decision made in 1980 by the IEC (International Electrotechnical Committee) to align the 220, 230, and 240 voltage standards found throughout the world to a single 230 volts standard, which will ultimately reduce production costs of electrical appliances.


Didn't they do this, but by allowing the tolerance to be such a large amount that its not changed anything. Its still 240v but fits into the category of 230v +/- whatever percentage.



raggy
VIC, 564 posts
24 Jul 2016 9:14AM
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Shifu said..
Thanks for all this info everyone.

I don't need three phase I just wanted to be sure 15amp wasn't just another way of saying "three phase"

If I can get a 10 amp plugged saw I will be sweet, but it sounds like a 15 amp saw won't be much of a problem.

Reason is I just bought a house with this 6x6 shed. My dream is to equip it with:

Bandsaw,
Tablesaw,
Drill press
Mitre saw
Disc sander
Timber racks
Board repair racks
Storage racks full of fasteners, fittings, paints and resins






There's another one at the front of the house to store all the sailing gear.

I'm going to do heaps of windsurfing, build a little sailing boat, do repairs, and make my own furniture.

Happy days!



ARRRR A MAN CAVE!! COOL

sotired
WA, 598 posts
25 Jul 2016 4:25AM
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Harrow said..
BTW, some of you may find it interesting to know that according to the Australian Standards (AS60038), the official voltage in Australia is 230 volts, not 240. This has been the case since the year 2000. Not all the states have adopted the standard yet.

This is following a decision made in 1980 by the IEC (International Electrotechnical Committee) to align the 220, 230, and 240 voltage standards found throughout the world to a single 230 volts standard, which will ultimately reduce production costs of electrical appliances.



electricalconnection.com.au/when-voltage-varies/


cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
25 Jul 2016 7:08AM
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busterwa said...
cauncy said..




busterwa said...
Watts goin on?






You TRIPPER





Sorry Id like to sorta alternate my current status. I like electricians but there probably the most laziest fecks I ever worked with. Depending on isolations levels and your trade. your on shift electrician is best friend ;-) As hard as it is to get them to work They do a wonderful Job. There a person that protects us and gives us confirmation of there energy dissipation A good electrician will provide a safe confirmed working environment.






Arghh the process for turning on the kettle on a mine site

GWatto
QLD, 388 posts
27 Jul 2016 1:34PM
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Never mind all this mumbo jumbo about Amps and Ohms that's just what Sparkies use to confuse people.
What you need to ensure is you stop the smoke from escaping, once the smoke gets out your saw is farked

sn
WA, 2775 posts
27 Jul 2016 9:37PM
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GWatto said..
Never mind all this mumbo jumbo about Amps and Ohms that's just what Sparkies use to confuse people.
What you need to ensure is you stop the smoke from escaping, once the smoke gets out your saw is farked


you can put the smoke back in





stephen




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