She's annoying, and a media headline. But, I like it that we allow provocative people like her in parliament who generate a bit of discussion.
Pete generates discussion.
Oh, I do enjoy the serenity of a trouble free STB - without pedants and people who want to live blocks away from the beach - interrupting my listening to Rodriguez, Searching for Sugarman while browsing realestate.com on my phone for investment opportunities in Port Gregory.
Well done Lidia, you cheered me up.
She demonstrates just how intelligent the Green party is to have appointed her as deputy leader of the of their senate.
^^^^^^^^spot on bjw
attention seeker 100%
narrow minded single opinionated
embarrassment to Australia. unity is the key
she is the divider . that's my 2 cents..
She swore allegiance to the "hairs" and SUCCESSORS to the Queen so she is still bound to that oath. Beats me why the journos have not picked up on that.
She is just divisive and and dishonest and should be expelled from parliament.
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....who generate a bit of discussion.
Well done Lidia, you cheered me up.
Yeah, but then again that is all she does. She doesn't actually achieve anything.
But I guess that is totally intentional. She is only happy when she is unhappy about being downtrodden or marginalised or disdvantaged.
Which I suppose can be quite entertaining. I'd just rather she didn't do it at the tax payer's expense.
Does she take on other cases of righting historical wrongs ?
Maybe she could campaign for remery and his three unwarranted seabreeze.com.au suspensions ?
I am not sure if remery has raised the matter directly with King Charles yet, if not then maybe Lidia could mention it when they next meet ?
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She swore allegiance to the "hairs" and SUCCESSORS to the Queen so she is still bound to that oath. Beats me why the journos have not picked up on that.
She is just divisive and and dishonest and should be expelled from parliament.
Not according to the document that she signed.
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Pete generates discussion.
Oh, I do enjoy the serenity of a trouble free STB - without pedants and people who want to live blocks away from the beach - interrupting my listening to Rodriguez, Searching for Sugarman while browsing realestate.com on my phone for investment opportunities in Port Gregory.
You are a troubled person. Pushing to report PM33 and then wondering why things are quiet. I worry that one day I will be sitting here a few blocks from the ocean muttering about people walking across my lawn and people posting up pictures of nazis on a website.
You should live in Perth. That seabreeze sucks sometimes, but when you open the front door and it cools the whole house down, its pretty good. Whitecaps everywhere. Sailing in the morning, and kiting or windsurfing in the afternoon, it's terrible.
Not good starting a morning ride into the wind though.
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Does she take on other cases of righting historical wrongs ?
Maybe she could campaign for remery and his three unwarranted seabreeze.com.au suspensions ?
I am not sure if remery has raised the matter directly with King Charles yet, if not then maybe Lidia could mention it when they next meet ?
King Charles and I will be discussing my unwarranted and unconstitutional Seabreeze suspensions as soon as I can fit him into my busy schedule.
Respect for the Elders on both sides of any dispute is required to progress any meaningful discussion. But I guess if we look back at some of the stunts Pauline H has pulled over the years, it is not as though there hasn't been precedent for this sort of media baiting.
If she swore allegiance to the Chair, not the hair or heir, the problem goes away.
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Respect for the Elders on both sides of any dispute is required to progress any meaningful discussion. But I guess if we look back at some of the stunts Pauline H has pulled over the years, it is not as though there hasn't been precedent for this sort of media baiting.
Did pauline hansen really say anything that racist? I think it was all a beat up. If compared her most racist comments with lydias most im sure lydia would.win
I'm glad we have Lidia, Jacqui, Barnaby and the Katter's. They stir the pot and make it a bit more interesting.
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Did pauline hansen really say anything that racist? I think it was all a beat up. If compared her most racist comments with lydias most im sure lydia would.win
ketanj0.medium.com/some-racist-things-that-have-been-said-by-pauline-hanson-4cd7a7c248a2
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Racist retard demanding sitdown money. Hardly even black.
This is where I think it gets weird. She is part aboriginal, but most likely much more European ancestry. How does a person define themself as aboriginal and expect 'their land back' when they are only genetically part aboriginal? It has been a melting pot and realistically no one is going to turn around and give something back to someone that has partial links to the land.
I guess if people with Scottish surnames that were born in Australia want to get married in kilts, then they are doing the same thing, but at what point do you determine that someone is not really linked that strongly with one of maybe 8 or 16 ancestors? Would 1 great grandfather from Scotland make you Scottish? What if your other 3 great grandfathers were Irish? Does that then make you Irish? What if your great grandmothers were all from Italy? Are you then Italian?
Does Lidia have internal conflict where her links to her European ancestors argue with her aboriginal ancestors?
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This is where I think it gets weird. She is part aboriginal, but most likely much more European ancestry. How does a person define themself as aboriginal and expect 'their land back' when they are only genetically part aboriginal? It has been a melting pot and realistically no one is going to turn around and give something back to someone that has partial links to the land.
I guess if people with Scottish surnames that were born in Australia want to get married in kilts, then they are doing the same thing, but at what point do you determine that someone is not really linked that strongly with one of maybe 8 or 16 ancestors? Would 1 great grandfather from Scotland make you Scottish? What if your other 3 great grandfathers were Irish? Does that then make you Irish? What if your great grandmothers were all from Italy? Are you then Italian?
Does Lidia have internal conflict where her links to her European ancestors argue with her aboriginal ancestors?
All you have to do is identify yourself as aboriginal. In the same way you can identify your gender and or sexual preference. Not a new concept, no need to have to prove it.
This is a common trait in most countries. If you're part white in Africa, people will see you as a "whitey" and you'll identify as such. Even if your only part of that.
I guess even if it is a minority, it's the bit that makes you different.
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This is where I think it gets weird. She is part aboriginal, but most likely much more European ancestry. How does a person define themself as aboriginal and expect 'their land back' when they are only genetically part aboriginal? It has been a melting pot and realistically no one is going to turn around and give something back to someone that has partial links to the land.
I guess if people with Scottish surnames that were born in Australia want to get married in kilts, then they are doing the same thing, but at what point do you determine that someone is not really linked that strongly with one of maybe 8 or 16 ancestors? Would 1 great grandfather from Scotland make you Scottish? What if your other 3 great grandfathers were Irish? Does that then make you Irish? What if your great grandmothers were all from Italy? Are you then Italian?
Does Lidia have internal conflict where her links to her European ancestors argue with her aboriginal ancestors?
All you have to do is identify yourself as aboriginal. In the same way you can identify your gender and or sexual preference. Not a new concept, no need to have to prove it.
If you identify as a meat popsicle, it doesn't actually make you one.
As for being 'aboriginal'; when it comes to some things in Australia, you do actually have to prove it. You can't just tell everyone you identify as one and that's it. You need to prove it, whether its through genealogy or some written acceptance by a group. Sure, you can tell anyone you identify as anything, but that's all you are doing. Some things you need to qualify for, and there are rules to it.
I would hope that I could indentify as a lotto winner, but I am not sure the Ozlotto people are going to take my claim seriously.
My point is that how can you write off 75% or more of your genetic background and just select the part that you want to? It might be different if you actively live in that culture, but if its just a choice where you want other people to refer to you as something, well, what's the point?
I had a neighbour that is/was aboriginal. I met his parents as well. I doubt that he has ever had anyone think that he was aboriginal, and I am pretty sure he didn't live in an environment where he was discriminated against because of his background. Go back 70 years and there would have been a stigma of having any aboriginal ancestry, yet now that people want to feel special they seem to want to identify with their 'struggles' even though they probably don't have any. He proudly told me he was an aboriginal. He was just an arsehole, whatever his background was.
If someone has 6.25% aboriginal ancestry, what does that entitle them to? At what point do you stop? My grandmother showed me a photo of her great grandfather and his wife, who was an 'islander'. Was she really an 'islander' or an aboriginal? Does that make me part aboriginal?
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As for being 'aboriginal'; when it comes to some things in Australia, you do actually have to prove it.
Prove it to who and what is considered as proof?
Who did Lidia prove her aboriginality to, when did she do it and what evidence did she use to prove it?
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As for being 'aboriginal'; when it comes to some things in Australia, you do actually have to prove it.
Prove it to who and what is considered as proof?
Who did Lidia prove her aboriginality to, when did she do it and what evidence did she use to prove it?
Don't waste my time. Google it yourself and enlighten yourself instead of imagining you know the answer.
Do aboriginals get a special licence after this ceremony, so they don't have to prove their aboriginality again and again to racists like you?
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Do aboriginals get a special licence after this ceremony, so they don't have to prove their aboriginality again and again to racists like you?
I see; you cannot even google something for yourself. No wonder no one wants to pay you for work you supposedly do.
I am about as racist as you are intelligent.
Now how about you use that typing, but this time in a search engine and maybe Google 'what do you need to do to prove you are aboriginal in Australia' and see if you can follow the links and actually understand what the requirements are. You probably could have found the answer in less words than you typed in to your reply.
But if you want to be angry at someone, while "happily" living in a beachfront property, just reply to this instead of doing something for yourself and finding out what is required.
I found the answer to this because I got sick of friends telling me how easy it was to be an aboriginal and 'all you had to do was identify as one', so I actually looked it up.
Silly me. For a while there I hoped that you might actually come back and say "Oh, I was wrong, it seems that you do need to prove this sometimes", but I guess I was being too optimistic and forgot that you just want to hate someone, anyone.
Whether she is aboriginal or not is dwarfed by just how ridiculously insane she is.
Back in the day the gubberment did have a standard as to how far removed you are genetically to still be considered aboriginal. can't remember exactly what it was, but important when it came to claiming benefits.
with all the feel good stuff going around these days, not sure its still there. Probably fallen by the way side.
As to Lidia being in parliment, nah, its not entertainment. It's part of the reason i don't consider politicians to be leaders, they're managers, thats about it.
I don't know about others, but going to the polling booth for me, it's not about voting for the best, its about voting for the least foolish. Start from the bottom, not the top.
Just makes me wonder how racist you have to be before you are considered racist. Does just being a small percentage racist qualify you being racist, or do you have to prove it to make it in some way?
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Racist retard demanding sitdown money. Hardly even black.
This is where I think it gets weird. She is part aboriginal, but most likely much more European ancestry. How does a person define themself as aboriginal and expect 'their land back' when they are only genetically part aboriginal? It has been a melting pot and realistically no one is going to turn around and give something back to someone that has partial links to the land.
It is quite a common mistake to think that fair skin = not very aboriginal. My sister's children are both 50%. The boy tans instantly, but the girl is a six foot athletic blonde. You'd never pick her for black if you didn't know.
Both of them are making names for themselves in film, music and now moving into politics. I don't know if that is due to Steiner schools early or hybrid vigour
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All you have to do is identify yourself as aboriginal. In the same way you can identify your gender and or sexual preference. Not a new concept, no need to have to prove it.
Interesting comment. So by, "sexual preference", are you saying that you prefer to have sex with females, but if none are available you will go with males as a backup?
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Six paragraphs of rubbish.
Aboriginal or Torres Strait Islander heritage is personal to the individual. You don't need to prove that you are an Indigenous Australian.
www.unimelb.edu.au/voice/faqs/identity-question/what-criteria-is-used-to-determine-a-persons-aboriginality
