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Life is good just enjoy it stop whinging

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Created by hilly > 9 months ago, 19 Sep 2019
hilly
WA, 7323 posts
19 Sep 2019 6:27PM
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Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker says people worldwide are not only healthier and wealthier nowadays, but happier and safer as well.
"Over the last century, we've become 96 per cent less likely to be killed in a car crash, 88 per cent less likely to be mowed down on the sidewalk, 99 per cent less likely to die in a plane crash, and 95 percent less likely to be killed on the job," he says in a 2018 TED Talk.
"We are 89 per cent less likely to be killed by an act of God, such as a drought, flood, wildfire, storm, volcano, landslide, earthquake or meteor strike, presumably not because God has become less angry with us but because of improvements in the resilience of our infrastructure."
Professor Pinker calls these combined gains the "greatest fact in human history", but says that people do not tend to appreciate this progress.

Lifes good get out and enjoy it. Gloo in 2 weeks yeooow

bjw
QLD, 3623 posts
19 Sep 2019 8:34PM
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Shutup dude. I'm off to protest that my government doesnt give me enough free stuff.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
19 Sep 2019 6:45PM
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I'd disagree , it's become so costly to survive the 1st thing you think about in the morning is work, it's evident, look at everyone on the roads, public transport, they ain't going to the beach, personally I had a better lifestyle years ago, and I live a very simple life, mental health has never been so prevalent , suicides are on the upward trend and have been for years, So a load of bollocks if you ask me

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
19 Sep 2019 8:49PM
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We are living in the blame generation .
Its takes sad energy to blame. And it's addictive.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
19 Sep 2019 6:52PM
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I'd disagree , it's become so costly to survive the 1st thing you think about in the morning is work, it's evident, look at everyone on the roads, public transport, they ain't going to the beach, personally I had a better lifestyle years ago, and I live a very simple life, mental health has never been so prevalent , suicides are on the upward trend and have been for years, So a load of bollocks if you ask me



In 2016, the suicide rate in Australia was 5.7 (W.H.O stats 11.7) deaths per 100,000 people, down from 6.6 per 100,000 people in 2007. 2,866 people died from suicide in Australia in 2016.[1] The World Health Organizationreported the rate of suicide in Australia at 10.4 per 100,000 people per year (age standardised).[2] The Australian Department of Health reported that the age standardised rate of suicide decreased from 14.7 per 100,000 people in 1997, to 10.3 in 2005.[3]

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
19 Sep 2019 6:57PM
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The sad sacks can feck off

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
19 Sep 2019 7:49PM
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We seem to be getting squeezed financially with all their added and increased taxes.

I am thinking of taking Japies advice and ditching my fridge when it eventually gives up.

It just heats the place up in the summer and I barely use it at the present.

In the poorer suburbs of Perth nearly every person lives from week to week.

Were they to increase petrol to say three dollars a litre then we'd really feel it and a few others would be throwing their fridges away too.

decrepit
WA, 12166 posts
19 Sep 2019 8:18PM
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hilly said.. >>>Lifes good get out and enjoy it. Gloo in 2 weeks yeooow


Yep, we're in a golden age at the moment, (or maybe just coming out of it), enjoy it while you can.

TonyAbbott
883 posts
19 Sep 2019 8:23PM
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It is so sad watching brainwashed kids protesting for higher taxes, higher electricity prices and reduced standards of living.

What kind of monster would do that to kids?



Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
19 Sep 2019 10:24PM
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hilly said..
Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker says people worldwide are not only healthier and wealthier nowadays, but happier and safer as well.
"Over the last century, we've become 96 per cent less likely to be killed in a car crash, 88 per cent less likely to be mowed down on the sidewalk, 99 per cent less likely to die in a plane crash,


Pinker should check his figures. In 1919 there were hardly any cars on the road and 60kmh was dangerously fast. There weren't big trucks to mow people down with by driving along the footpath.
There was no commercial air industry worth speaking of and planes had such low landing and take off speeds that pilots walked away from accidents

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
19 Sep 2019 8:30PM
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Mr Milk said..

hilly said..
Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker says people worldwide are not only healthier and wealthier nowadays, but happier and safer as well.
"Over the last century, we've become 96 per cent less likely to be killed in a car crash, 88 per cent less likely to be mowed down on the sidewalk, 99 per cent less likely to die in a plane crash,



Pinker should check his figures. In 1919 there were hardly any cars on the road and 60kmh was dangerously fast. There weren't big trucks to mow people down with by driving along the footpath.
There was no commercial air industry worth speaking of and planes had such low landing and take off speeds that pilots walked away from accidents


As usual opinion not facts. Do some research before you post doom and gloom. Fact is we live longer, are wealthier, are safer, ect. Life is good enjoy it don't get grumpy on a forum.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
19 Sep 2019 10:32PM
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cauncy said..
I'd disagree , it's become so costly to survive the 1st thing you think about in the morning is work, it's evident, look at everyone on the roads, public transport, they ain't going to the beach, personally I had a better lifestyle years ago, and I live a very simple life, mental health has never been so prevalent , suicides are on the upward trend and have been for years, So a load of bollocks if you ask me





In 2016, the suicide rate in Australia was 5.7 (W.H.O stats 11.7) deaths per 100,000 people, down from 6.6 per 100,000 people in 2007. 2,866 people died from suicide in Australia in 2016.[1] The World Health Organizationreported the rate of suicide in Australia at 10.4 per 100,000 people per year (age standardised).[2] The Australian Department of Health reported that the age standardised rate of suicide decreased from 14.7 per 100,000 people in 1997, to 10.3 in 2005.[3]



That's what cauncy said. "mental health has never been so prevalent" Most people think that suicide is due to a deficiency in mental health*, so a falling suicide rate just confirms what s/he said.

*as distinct from mental illness

Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
19 Sep 2019 10:36PM
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hilly said..

Mr Milk said..


hilly said..
Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker says people worldwide are not only healthier and wealthier nowadays, but happier and safer as well.
"Over the last century, we've become 96 per cent less likely to be killed in a car crash, 88 per cent less likely to be mowed down on the sidewalk, 99 per cent less likely to die in a plane crash,




Pinker should check his figures. In 1919 there were hardly any cars on the road and 60kmh was dangerously fast. There weren't big trucks to mow people down with by driving along the footpath.
There was no commercial air industry worth speaking of and planes had such low landing and take off speeds that pilots walked away from accidents



As usual opinion not facts. Do some research before you post doom and gloom. Fact is we live longer, are wealthier, are safer, ect. Life is good enjoy it don't get grumpy on a forum.


OK. Give me the totals for road deaths 1919-29 and compare with road deaths 2008-18. I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the 2008-18 figure will be higher absolutely and also per head of population. The only way Pinker would be right would be deaths per passenger mile.

whippingboy
WA, 1104 posts
19 Sep 2019 9:08PM
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Of course we re better off now
my grandfather lived in a bush humpie in what is now the Sutherland shire
, working as as a day labourer unloading sacks of asbestos on his shoulder

fortunately he got out of that with a government sponsored trip for 5 years to the Middle East, then the Pacific

So yeah Im quite happy here "discussing" stuff with seabreezers

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
19 Sep 2019 9:09PM
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Mr Milk said..

hilly said..


Mr Milk said..



hilly said..
Harvard University psychology professor Steven Pinker says people worldwide are not only healthier and wealthier nowadays, but happier and safer as well.
"Over the last century, we've become 96 per cent less likely to be killed in a car crash, 88 per cent less likely to be mowed down on the sidewalk, 99 per cent less likely to die in a plane crash,





Pinker should check his figures. In 1919 there were hardly any cars on the road and 60kmh was dangerously fast. There weren't big trucks to mow people down with by driving along the footpath.
There was no commercial air industry worth speaking of and planes had such low landing and take off speeds that pilots walked away from accidents




As usual opinion not facts. Do some research before you post doom and gloom. Fact is we live longer, are wealthier, are safer, ect. Life is good enjoy it don't get grumpy on a forum.



OK. Give me the totals for road deaths 1919-29 and compare with road deaths 2008-18. I'll bet pounds to peanuts that the 2008-18 figure will be higher absolutely and also per head of population. The only way Pinker would be right would be deaths per passenger mile.


How about you find it and prove him wrong you lazy keyboard warrior

azymuth
WA, 2031 posts
19 Sep 2019 9:25PM
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Mr Milk said.. The only way Pinker would be right would be deaths per passenger mil





My guess is Pinker probably had a careful look at the data before writing the book.

A vanishingly small chance that you would prove him wrong

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
20 Sep 2019 12:01AM
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bjw
QLD, 3623 posts
20 Sep 2019 7:16AM
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Life is definitely better. Ask anyone over 80 what they lived through.

Oh, but times are bad, I've got anxiety and I need to get on the NDS to cope.

bjw
QLD, 3623 posts
20 Sep 2019 7:19AM
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cauncy said..
I'd disagree , it's become so costly to survive the 1st thing you think about in the morning is work, it's evident, look at everyone on the roads, public transport, they ain't going to the beach, personally I had a better lifestyle years ago, and I live a very simple life, mental health has never been so prevalent , suicides are on the upward trend and have been for years, So a load of bollocks if you ask me


I reckon this is just getting older. When we are younger, we either don't have the stress, realise it's importance or simply just don't care enough.

Mr Milk
NSW, 3004 posts
20 Sep 2019 8:59AM
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Mr Milk said.. The only way Pinker would be right would be deaths per passenger mil






My guess is Pinker probably had a careful look at the data before writing the book.

A vanishingly small chance that you would prove him wrong


I'm sure his book will be extensively footnoted, so send me his references and I'll have a crack at it.
I'm not going to buy the book myself because that would only encourage him and his annoying optimism

poor relative
WA, 9089 posts
20 Sep 2019 7:45AM
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In 2016, the suicide rate in Australia was 5.7 (W.H.O stats 11.7) deaths per 100,000 people, down from 6.6 per 100,000 people in 2007. 2,866 people died from suicide in Australia in 2016.[1] The World Health Organizationreported the rate of suicide in Australia at 10.4 per 100,000 people per year (age standardised).[2] The Australian Department of Health reported that the age standardised rate of suicide decreased from 14.7 per 100,000 people in 1997, to 10.3 in 2005.[3]


I agree Life is great from where i'm sitting and yes Gloo in 2 weeks time too....

So the suicide rate has gone down to almost 8 people per day killing themselves..... that's what 1 every 2 1/2 hours
**** load more than just about any other 'preventable' cause of death.
Suicide is also the biggest killer of our youth i think about 1 young person (18-24) kills themselves everyday in Australia.
Plus for every person who successfully suicides its believed there are around 100 - 200 attempted suicides.... How many people is that.
Plus important to remember that these are the definite suicides..... how many other suicides are there that aren't recorded as such.
s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/mindframemedia/assets/src/uploads/Mindframe-ABS-Causes-of-Death-data-2017.pdf

I dont believe you can sweep the suicide stats under the carpet and say we're so much happier now because fewer people are killing themselves than 10 years ago.

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
20 Sep 2019 8:24AM
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hilly said..



In 2016, the suicide rate in Australia was 5.7 (W.H.O stats 11.7) deaths per 100,000 people, down from 6.6 per 100,000 people in 2007. 2,866 people died from suicide in Australia in 2016.[1] The World Health Organizationreported the rate of suicide in Australia at 10.4 per 100,000 people per year (age standardised).[2] The Australian Department of Health reported that the age standardised rate of suicide decreased from 14.7 per 100,000 people in 1997, to 10.3 in 2005.[3]



I agree Life is great from where i'm sitting and yes Gloo in 2 weeks time too....

So the suicide rate has gone down to almost 8 people per day killing themselves..... that's what 1 every 2 1/2 hours
**** load more than just about any other 'preventable' cause of death.
Suicide is also the biggest killer of our youth i think about 1 young person (18-24) kills themselves everyday in Australia.
Plus for every person who successfully suicides its believed there are around 100 - 200 attempted suicides.... How many people is that.
Plus important to remember that these are the definite suicides..... how many other suicides are there that aren't recorded as such.
s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/mindframemedia/assets/src/uploads/Mindframe-ABS-Causes-of-Death-data-2017.pdf

I dont believe you can sweep the suicide stats under the carpet and say we're so much happier now because fewer people are killing themselves than 10 years ago.


It is not good. That was in response to a comment that suicide is increasing which it is not.

Actively involved in RUOK Day, mental health for teenagers and work along side Headspace and CAHMS at my work.

quikdrawMcgraw
1221 posts
20 Sep 2019 10:40AM
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Shaarttt aarrpp eeeejits I came here for a argument!

quikdrawMcgraw
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20 Sep 2019 10:45AM
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Haha couldn't watch it all but that's good

Marsbars
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20 Sep 2019 11:13AM
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On a local and personal level I have it pretty good not because I worked hard or make an effort in society but because I won the lottery of life so on a global scale i am made to feel collectivley guilty about the bad in the world im not doing enough about. This is reducing my enjoyment of things like eating a cruel farmed but tender juicy steak while im getting my feet massaged for 2 bucks by someone that really likes me, well cause they keep telling me that and calling me boss in some 3rd world country I should be happy but im not and this makes me winge.

petermac33
WA, 6415 posts
20 Sep 2019 1:39PM
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Life is going to charge radically in the coming years years if the censorship promoted by decrepit and the conversation is allowed to continue. Supposedly private companies like Google are in on this censorship big time too.

The support of the pub lic of this censorship is disturbing to say the least.

People mean good but it's a seriously dangerous slippery slope.

TonyAbbott
883 posts
20 Sep 2019 5:03PM
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Freedom of speech is at the heart of democracy

If freedom of speech dies, so does democracy

I don't have to like decripits vile hate speech, but I'll defend his right to say it

hilly
WA, 7323 posts
20 Sep 2019 6:01PM
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What a time to be alive

my Dad grew up dodging bombs in Manchester. My kids biggest issue is whether to use a 7m or a 9m at macking Gloo.

Imax1
QLD, 4719 posts
20 Sep 2019 8:02PM
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I can't help think that the supposedly increase in unhappiness and depression could be a learned behaviour .
In my day we were brought up tougher at the expense of a few unfortunates . I know , it sounds bad .
Nowadays everyone gets a ribbon wether they win or not .
What was wrong with , just rub some dirt into it , it'll be alright , why are you inside , it's not raining ?
I could crap on for hours , for I am an old fart .
For gods sake , teachers are not allowed to growl at naughty kids anymore , because it might upset the naughty kids , go figure !
, I remember my sister in law telling of having an argument with the principal over her daughter wearing earrings . Earrings were not allowed . Her argument was that he shouldn't be close enough to notice them as they were small earrings .!
Lucky there was a cow next to me to bight down on to !
I soooo wanted to let rip !
But I behaved .
This is the world we live in .
Ps , No one in that five person family works . Cos there sad . ,!!!
We all have woes , but I choose not to dwell or tell everyone about it . It's not about the more sad points wins .
I think it's my upbringing , and I'm glad it was so.

eppo
WA, 9505 posts
20 Sep 2019 10:36PM
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Whilst I think out material / physical needs are met substantially better than 2/3 generations ago I'd say the impact of global consumerism and the increasing concentration of wealth in the hands of the few is and will increasingly have an impact (soon) on generations to come.

Nor should we downplay the incessant transmission of 24/7 information (mostly pointless noise) and accessibility on our general mental health, especially on a young person (without the experience and wisdom to deal with it). Plus the industry that peddles the diagnoses and elixiars to supposedly combat this.

This also includes the existentialist feelings created when they are told our planet is running head first into an irreparable state of catastrophe. So what's the point of trying or doing anything at all a lot of them say.

So is life better for the average person ...

its different I'd say. With its own set of challenges.

tightlines
WA, 3477 posts
20 Sep 2019 11:24PM
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He will go the 7 up there surely Hilly.

Enjoy you lucky bugger.

I totally agree life's bloody good, how good is it to have a never ending choice of new toys, even if we can't afford all of them.



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