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New Australian Army Toy !

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Created by busterwa > 9 months ago, 3 Apr 2012
busterwa
3777 posts
3 Apr 2012 11:00AM
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australian army FGM-148 Javelin training

The Javelin Weapon System has been introduced to the Australian Army to
engage and destroy current and anticipated enemy armour at ranges beyond
that achievable with previous shoulder-fired anti-armour systems.

The
system also offers the capability to destroy slow-moving or hovering
rotary wing aircraft or fortifications. Combat arms units employ Javelin
as a dismounted shoulder-fired weapon. Javelin may be fitted to vehicle
platforms. Targets are engaged by locking on to their heat signature
and once fired; there is no further requirement to guide the missile.
The Javelin's time of flight is approximately 14 seconds for 2
kilometres.

RPM
WA, 1549 posts
3 Apr 2012 11:07AM
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When I was in the army we had the RBS 70 and the CG 84mm..

The javelin has been around since the falklands in the 80's, then they updated to the wire version in the mid 90's

Nice bit of kit but pricey... Maybe one day is anyone can be bothered to invade us we might get a chance to use it... Hope they don't buy too many as the chances of that are slim to none.

Mark _australia
WA, 22412 posts
3 Apr 2012 1:20PM
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Dunno about new - first combat use was the SAS taking something out in Afghanland a few years back

Million bucks a shot means it is not used much........

Green Cherub
WA, 296 posts
3 Apr 2012 1:57PM
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Oh you mean one of these?



Looks a bit faulty, lets try again;



oh never mind

kiteboy dave
QLD, 6525 posts
3 Apr 2012 8:20PM
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You fellas have obviously never played COD MW3.

Javelin is a piece of poo. Takes forever to lock on, you're normally dead by the time you get the shot away.

The only joy is that you can target ground buildings as well as vehicles, so if there's a sniper in the far building you can put a javelin thru the hole in the roof, and you can do it from out of his line of sight.

Once it's locked on and fired however, it is pretty good at tracking it's target.

busterwa
3777 posts
3 Apr 2012 6:24PM
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up there with the Collins class submarines.

Mr float
NSW, 3452 posts
3 Apr 2012 9:40PM
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wow ,It seems however that the greatest challenge that is presented to the Australain Army is roadside improvised bombs or whatever they are called .Shouldn't more resources be assigned to minimising their devastating effect.

Mobydisc
NSW, 9029 posts
3 Apr 2012 10:13PM
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There is a mismatch of resources. Anti tank missiles are all well and good if Wehrmacht panzer divisions are invading northern Australia. First rate jet fighters are all well and good if the Chinese airforce is bombing Darwin.

However these events are unlikely to happen.

Seems like the most valuable and overworked soldiers are the elite commando soldiers like the SAS.

Australia spends tons of money on defence. What does Australia get out of it? Nothing much on based on evidence. The navy couldn't get a ship and crew to help out when Queensland was being hammered by natural disasters. The army in Afghanistan has no hope, along with the 300,000 American soldiers, of beating a bunch of blokes with AK47s, RPGs and roadside bombs.

Personally I think Australia would be better served by a different defence policy. A fleet of four nuclear powered and armed submarines. Two one west coast, two on the east coast. One at port, one at sea. They are there to say to any country if you invade Australia, Australia will turn your country into an uninhabitable nuclear wasteland. The Chinese have this sort of nuclear deterant and no one has any wish to attack them.


Added to that are the elite commando units and an army reserve/citizen militia who are are trained in guerilla warfare. Roadside bombs, ambushes and all that stuff. They are there to defend Australia if we are ever invaded despite the nuclear deterent.
Taxpayers would save a lot of money, possibly fourty billion dollars a year or more.

Of course this would mean Australian soldiers are not fighting overseas but I think Australian solders should be defending Australia, not fighting overseas.

mineral1
WA, 4564 posts
3 Apr 2012 11:19PM
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busterwa said...

up there with the Collins class submarines.


Some of you fine upstanding chaps would be a little stunned and happy to see what the ol Colins is capable of now
Few seppo's also a little put out when up against these in war games, and came unstuck big time
That is all good, only drawback is if we can ever get enough arms and legs to run in the buggers

log man
VIC, 8289 posts
4 Apr 2012 6:11AM
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Mr. Gonski identified that we would need to spend 5 Bil on education. How much would we save if we cut down on our military budget?Blokes driving round in tanks, defending us against who? the yellow peril?

GreenGriff
SA, 137 posts
4 Apr 2012 8:25PM
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so yeah yay we got some 20 yr old tech, get some cable ties to add it on to our row boats and bath tubs (subs) that leak cant run at full depth and or power and cost the earth and a few other planets to build



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