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Powerball Jackpot Tonight

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Created by GreenPat > 9 months ago, 21 Aug 2014
GreenPat
QLD, 4083 posts
21 Aug 2014 6:28PM
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Discussion at the office this morning led to a couple of graphs showing the chances of winning division 1 with different choices of game.





Still, I'm happy to pay for a $70M dream.

byf
WA, 512 posts
21 Aug 2014 4:41PM
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Gotta be in it to win it. And I'm in it. Good luck to you all. (not really)

Harrow
NSW, 4521 posts
21 Aug 2014 6:54PM
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I'd rather have a seventy times higher chance of winning $1M.

Same goes for the $2 scratchies. Get rid of all the minor prizes, and give us a 10 times higher chance of winning the big prize!


gavnwend
WA, 1366 posts
21 Aug 2014 5:28PM
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you have got more chance of waiting for a wooden rockin horse droppings then winning the big one.

GreenPat
QLD, 4083 posts
21 Aug 2014 7:50PM
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Harrow said..
I'd rather have a seventy times higher chance of winning $1M.


It still wouldn't be visible on the top graph.

kk
WA, 947 posts
21 Aug 2014 8:12PM
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From a statistician's point of view your chances of winning lotto are the same whether you buy a ticket or not, so I'm told.

The other name for lotteries is "poor mans tax" which unfortunately is pretty right.

That said I still buy about 4 tickets a year, just in case.

Mark _australia
WA, 22341 posts
21 Aug 2014 9:14PM
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Harrow said..
I'd rather have a seventy times higher chance of winning $1M.
Same goes for the $2 scratchies. Get rid of all the minor prizes, and give us a 10 times higher chance of winning the big prize!




Agreed. 70 mil is so much is it crazy.

2 people have 35 mil each tonight, an obscene amount.

Considering that for average peeps 1mil is a winfall and about 5mil is totally life changing I think when it gets this big they need to boost up second and third division rather than having one huge 1st div prize.

I'd rather see 2 people get 10mil, 20 people in 2nd div get 1 mil, then 3rd div all get say $500K instead of the $80K ish.

Make more people really damn happy rather then give somebody something so huge they end up being all the worse for it

dinsdale
WA, 1227 posts
21 Aug 2014 9:26PM
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Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.

Mark _australia
WA, 22341 posts
21 Aug 2014 9:48PM
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anyway this reminded me to check my ticket

Had a systems20 (?) one from local newsagent and happy to report we won!!!!!!


I have a 1/20th share of $36

Edit: oh hang on........ have I got 20 x $36? That would be nice :)


Chris6791
WA, 3271 posts
22 Aug 2014 7:48AM
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$70 mil is an obscene amount of money to win, unless it's me then it's just about the right amount.

Mark _australia
WA, 22341 posts
22 Aug 2014 1:28PM
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wooooo

I got 420 cents :)

elmo
WA, 8723 posts
22 Aug 2014 1:51PM
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I've got expensive note paper

Unhook3d
WA, 467 posts
22 Aug 2014 9:19PM
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dinsdale said...
Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.


Spot on. I really struggle to understand why all these losers flock to buy a ticket in a lottery that has mega times less chance of paying off. Wait till next week and buy a ticket in the 3 mil draw boneheads.

TheWolf
SA, 247 posts
22 Aug 2014 11:20PM
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My parents still buy tickets. Their rationale is that they have been buying them for 25 years, if they stop now their numbers will come up the next week.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
22 Aug 2014 10:16PM
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Unhook3d said...
dinsdale said...
Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.


Spot on. I really struggle to understand why all these losers flock to buy a ticket in a lottery that has mega times less chance of paying off. Wait till next week and buy a ticket in the 3 mil draw boneheads.


Huh? Your chance of winning doesn't change week to week.
It only changes depending on whether you enter powerball/ozlotto/Sat lotto etc

Mark _australia
WA, 22341 posts
22 Aug 2014 10:55PM
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^^^ exactly - you still have the same chance of winning every time even if the whole world buys a ticket or only one person buys.
Maybe with more people buying a ticket you have more chance of sharing the prize, but is bigger so that cancels out.

Dezman
NSW, 818 posts
23 Aug 2014 4:56AM
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Only true believers win lotto!

squeeze that ticket in the hope you can bend the laws of physics your way

Cheap price for a little hope I guess.

parrotdroppings
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23 Aug 2014 6:02AM
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Mark _australia said...
wooooo

I got 420 cents :)




Don't be negative you just won 42000 tenths of a cent!

FormulaNova
WA, 14627 posts
23 Aug 2014 6:31AM
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Dawn Patrol said..
Unhook3d said...
dinsdale said...
Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.


Spot on. I really struggle to understand why all these losers flock to buy a ticket in a lottery that has mega times less chance of paying off. Wait till next week and buy a ticket in the 3 mil draw boneheads.


Huh? Your chance of winning doesn't change week to week.
It only changes depending on whether you enter powerball/ozlotto/Sat lotto etc



No, what this means is that you have a better chance of a significant prize in a smaller draw as there are less people entered. Which is probably behind the term 'paying off'.

The chances of winning something doesn't change, but that amount would.

Mark _australia
WA, 22341 posts
23 Aug 2014 10:27AM
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^^^ I still don't think it would. Did they really sell 10x more tickets for the 70mil draw? I dunno, but I'd think they didnt and thus the winnings rather similar if we consider an average over time.

FlySurfer
NSW, 4453 posts
23 Aug 2014 2:53PM
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588 people have read this post; we could make a little open source application that would could accept $10 for you to enter a 8 digit number which would then go into a pool which was randomly selected.

Flow:

1.- You enter a unique 8 digit number
2.- You pay $10 for each 8 dg number
3.- These numbers go into a weekly pool (db)
4.- 1 random number gets selected every week

Your chances of winning = sum(entries)/Your entries.

I'm sure the government would want to get their dirty thieving hands on our money so I'm not sure how legal it is, but it would be fair.

Dawn Patrol
WA, 1991 posts
23 Aug 2014 1:46PM
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FormulaNova said..

Dawn Patrol said..

Unhook3d said...

dinsdale said...
Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.



Spot on. I really struggle to understand why all these losers flock to buy a ticket in a lottery that has mega times less chance of paying off. Wait till next week and buy a ticket in the 3 mil draw boneheads.



Huh? Your chance of winning doesn't change week to week.
It only changes depending on whether you enter powerball/ozlotto/Sat lotto etc




No, what this means is that you have a better chance of a significant prize in a smaller draw as there are less people entered. Which is probably behind the term 'paying off'.

The chances of winning something doesn't change, but that amount would.


Thursday's draw shows otherwise. Two people won 35 million. If you enter a draw of 3 mill, there is no chance to win that.

FormulaNova
WA, 14627 posts
23 Aug 2014 5:41PM
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Dawn Patrol said..
FormulaNova said..

Dawn Patrol said..

Unhook3d said...

dinsdale said...
Lotteries are an investment vehicle for people who can't do maths.



Spot on. I really struggle to understand why all these losers flock to buy a ticket in a lottery that has mega times less chance of paying off. Wait till next week and buy a ticket in the 3 mil draw boneheads.



Huh? Your chance of winning doesn't change week to week.
It only changes depending on whether you enter powerball/ozlotto/Sat lotto etc




No, what this means is that you have a better chance of a significant prize in a smaller draw as there are less people entered. Which is probably behind the term 'paying off'.

The chances of winning something doesn't change, but that amount would.


Thursday's draw shows otherwise. Two people won 35 million. If you enter a draw of 3 mill, there is no chance to win that.



No, it doesn't show otherwise. It shows that it can happen, but probability suggests that its less likely to happen. I agree that you can't win 35m in a 3m draw.

It could have turned out that 1000 people shared the first division prize.

Either way, I don't care. Enter as many times as you want.



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