Poor VW need to spend now hundred billion of dollars to fix the mess they did.
At the end that is completely wasted billions of dollars that doesn't do anything good for the money, beside sense of fulfilled ravage and punishment.Their ( VW) cars are as good or better then others on the market, but solution must be find to resolve.
IMO the most rational could be such solution that punish VW and rectify harm made to our green environment , without money to be wasted unnecessary.
Volkswagen should be now given an option to produce/ manufacture fully electric cars at equivalent value of that billions of dollars fines.Global balance for environment by adding electric fleet to replace dirty combustion vehicles, will be much greater that proposed now fixing software bug. VW could also restore reputation by producing fully green vehicles, zero emission, electric vehicles.Obviously by entering this market by such huge company may effect other EV manufactures, but a bit of competition on this long overdue market could only serve us - consumers well.
Just a small preview what could happen when big serious German industry will enter the EV market could be
Bosh latest invented battery that holds ten times more energy that the best used nowadays. I wish I could already cover whole my roof with solar panels to recharge all 4 family vehicles for free.
From now till the Sun will be shining - never had to purchase gasoline anymore.
cleantechnica.com/2015/09/21/bosch-solid-state-lithium-ion-batteries-could-hit-ev-market-within-5-years/
How about instead, similar idea, but fine VW those billions $ and give it to a competitor for them to produce an electric car. Say, give it to Tesla. Or give it to all affected VW buyers in the form of a discount to buy a Tesla. Punishment to the offending party plus social engineering at the same time.
Select to expand quoteCambodge said..
How about instead, similar idea, but fine VW those billions $ and give it to a competitor for them to produce an electric car. Say, give it to Tesla.
Tesla still needs to prove themselves as serious car manufacturer.
For me that is boutique selling good but overpriced vehicles for snobs.
VW aim at all folks - ordinary people like you and me.Good electric car for masses should and will be actually cheaper then combustion one, petrol powered.
It could be ultimate shame to take that hard earned money , by all Volkswagen customers, and millions of workers in their factories, then give to few snobs, driving luxury limousines.I am sure that VW could mass produce decent electric vehicles at price range $15,000 to 30,000 after some incentives ( read punishment reinforced for braking the rules) .
Select to expand quoteCambodge said..
How about instead, similar idea, but fine VW those billions $ and give it to a competitor for them to produce an electric car. Say, give it to Tesla. Or give it to all affected VW buyers in the form of a discount to buy a Tesla. Punishment to the offending party plus social engineering at the same time.
Even better - force VW to put Gordon Murray's T25 and T27 cars into production, establishing a number of his new design factories around the world.
That would put simple and cheap to build, cheap and easy to maintain, and probably the most economical petrol [T25] and electric [T27] cars available in the reach of the average punter.
stephen
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Tesla still needs to prove themselves as serious car manufacturer.
For me that is boutique selling good but overpriced vehicles for snobs.
Hmm you're not understanding Tesla in the slightest then.
This is their share price vs other car manufacturers
Their market cap (overall value) graph is similar but less .. insane. There are (still) some bigger competitors. The trend is very sharply up though.
Have a look into Elon Musk's plan for Tesla and you'll see it's: start pricey, move to unit volume as they develop the tech and the capacity to mass produce.
Have a look at the new model and it's price.
"overpriced xxx for snobs" is how most game-changers are written off by those that can't afford to be an early adopter, such as mobile phones..
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Coal powered cars, what a brilliant idea! Will do wonders for the environment.
Unless you live in one of the first countries that's entirely renewable powered.
Unless you live in South Australia, which has already had days of being entirely renewable powered
Unless you invest in another Tesla product and go solar --> Powerwall --> Tesla.
Now if by a chance Japan with their Toyota Hondas, Italy with Lamborghini, Maserati and Fiat are at fault-
there would be plenty of free money everywhere.
Beside poor diesels now becomes apparent that VW petrol engines also produce C02, ( and none of the other cars on the streets don't ??)
www.bbc.com/news/business-34712435
I wonder how on hell super efficient car like VW that use 4 liters per 100 km could produce more pollutants that petrol /diesel 6-8 cylinders SUV , utes in common use with 15 to 20 l/ 100 km not uncommon but perfectly legal. ?
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I know that recalls happen; its the reason why in this case.
A jack is supposed to have a safe working load label, in this case the SWL label is being removed in case the jack gets used for something else??
Car maker is covering their posterior
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What they are saying is the jack is designed to match the vehicle it is supplied with. - and not any other make/model.
An alternate vehicle may well fall within the safe working limit for the jack, but the jacking points in the vehicle may not necessarily fit the jack correctly.
One of our company cars came home with a stuffed jack after being used on another car at a roadside breakdown.
The vehicle's under-body seams ended up being clamped into the top of the jack.
It had sheet metal damage by the time the jack was pried loose.
stephen
