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'13 North Control Bar (new centerhole)

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Created by QinClay > 9 months ago, 31 Mar 2013
QinClay
WA, 17 posts
31 Mar 2013 5:29PM
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Hey Guys,

i´ve just checked my gear for any damages and wearing.
Realized that my depowerline is pretty stuffed after approx. 50 hours of flying.
After i had a close look, i´ve found that the centerhole is f***ed!
I´ve thought North Kiteboarding came up with its outstanding idea to use a changeable plastic centerhole-insert instead of aluminium to reduce wearing of the lines...

Well, that´s the outcome...worn depowerline + f***ed centerhole insert!!!
That little plastic piece of s*** costs about $40!!!

What a joke, just look how thin the plastic in the middle is...

Is there anyone who has the same problem?!


Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
31 Mar 2013 9:18PM
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Mate of mine, same

Lambie
QLD, 739 posts
31 Mar 2013 8:32PM
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Thats another fine mess you've got me into north - said Stanley!

So isn't the plastic at least teflon?

I wonder how many 'movements' ie sheeting in and out North considers is acceptable for their line and insert longevity ??

50 hours / 2 hr sessions in ideal conditions is less than a month (25 days? ) ?

That must be why kite schools dont use North ??

Troyrotor
QLD, 318 posts
31 Mar 2013 8:38PM
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Yer I lost mine ages ago, so had to replace the rope too.

Later snapped a bar because the grub screw causes a huge weakspot in the middle of the cast alloy center.

I would rather replace the rope only and not both at the same time. My plastic center always pops out too.
Annoying

QinClay
WA, 17 posts
31 Mar 2013 6:59PM
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wow, and i really thoght the adjustable bar ends were the weak spot!!!

Spark
WA, 208 posts
31 Mar 2013 7:33PM
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Neo and Evo were at the top of my demo list a month ago when I was hunting for new kites. I head about the high maintenance North bar I wrote them both off. How can a low quality bar come with such high quality kites?

QinClay
WA, 17 posts
31 Mar 2013 8:18PM
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Troyrotor said...
Yer I lost mine ages ago, so had to replace the rope too.

Later snapped a bar because the grub screw causes a huge weakspot in the middle of the cast alloy center.

I would rather replace the rope only and not both at the same time. My plastic center always pops out too.
Annoying


Have you tried using the bar without the insert???
Will probably damage the top of the ironheart!

Nice railey by the way!

speed brother
QLD, 126 posts
31 Mar 2013 11:36PM
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A mate of mine had the rubber or foam bar covermaterial delaminate on his 2013 bar after 2 months. The North bar has always been the kites weakness for many years.

eppo
WA, 9482 posts
31 Mar 2013 9:37PM
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When will they listen? Doesn't help when I got absolutely smashed on kiteforum year or so back pointing out this flaw. Also Got a two page email from some big north guy justifying this absurd piece of delinquent engineering.

North open ya Farqin ears and listen!

ajh01
WA, 11 posts
1 Apr 2013 12:01AM
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same thing happened to mine.ive gone through 2.one wear and tear and one just had a crack in it after approx 6 hours use.im looking at having a stainless steel one made on a cnc machine which will rectify the problem.

Troyrotor
QLD, 318 posts
1 Apr 2013 10:18AM
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QinClay said...
Troyrotor said...
Yer I lost mine ages ago, so had to replace the rope too.

Later snapped a bar because the grub screw causes a huge weakspot in the middle of the cast alloy center.

I would rather replace the rope only and not both at the same time. My plastic center always pops out too.
Annoying


Have you tried using the bar without the insert???
Will probably damage the top of the ironheart!

Nice railey by the way!



Yer I used it without for a while when I was waiting for a new center to come.
As the gap is large without the insert, your depower rope slips across and tears the skin from your fingers really bad. When passing it would flick across and cut my fingers.
Also the inside alluminium finish is rough with contour lips that where killing my new depower rope.

I'm still happy with all my north gear despite these problems, I kite pretty hard and often and I think all other Equiptment would fail in other ways anyway.

I'm injured at the moment so all my gear is getting some time to rest

Gilly3
QLD, 799 posts
1 Apr 2013 10:49AM
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^^^^I don't remember you having that much trouble with ya Switchy

.....and what have you done to yourself now ????

Troyrotor
QLD, 318 posts
1 Apr 2013 6:56PM
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I had plenty of problems with the switchblade. I put together a fully custom bar so stuff didnt break. The kite lasted well though.

Olliefly
QLD, 63 posts
1 Apr 2013 7:54PM
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Same thing happen to me, I ripped it out and filed the sharp edge down on the top side , shouldn't have to do it but it worked. Take the 2 grub screws out also , things we do to keep our wings, ova

suniboy21
VIC, 1090 posts
1 Apr 2013 9:19PM
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Wouldnt get that with a BWS!

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
1 Apr 2013 7:16PM
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Jedibrad said...
Mate of mine, same


What your mate had a worn hole, how matey are you

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
2 Apr 2013 3:04AM
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Nothing new here - same old kiteboarding problems - same old North.

Troyrotor
QLD, 318 posts
2 Apr 2013 9:57AM
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sir ROWDY said...
Nothing new here - same old kiteboarding problems - same old North.


Might have to try the next c4 you reckon? I would if they brought out a new bar, but I love my 5th line

bigmtnskierx
VIC, 29 posts
2 Apr 2013 2:23PM
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get it replaced under warranty. the initial ones are much smaller than the replacement ones they have made, and they wear through pretty quick ( just did mine the other day). first thing you notice with the replacement is much thicker plastic that will last alot longer.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
2 Apr 2013 6:04PM
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Troyrotor said...
sir ROWDY said...
Nothing new here - same old kiteboarding problems - same old North.


Might have to try the next c4 you reckon? I would if they brought out a new bar, but I love my 5th line


Try whatever you think will work best for you.

p.s. 5th lines and surf don't mix, so I've never been a big fan of them.

QinClay
WA, 17 posts
3 Apr 2013 12:28AM
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Hey guys,

just want to let you know that i´ve just got an e-mail from my dealer back in germany.
He´s spoke to North-Kiteboarding today and they said they´re aware of this problem.
Although it´s a very small number...
Maybe all got crappy once got send to Austalia...

Long story short, they'll send me the center hole insert plus the worn depowerline for free!!!
Maybe worth talking to your dealer as well...

I really think they have no other choice to get replacements for everyone who´s dealing with that issue!!!

God luck everyone!!!
Don´t give in!





sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
3 Apr 2013 2:27AM
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QinClay said...

He´s spoke to North-Kiteboarding today and they said they´re aware of this problem.
Although it´s a very small number...
Maybe all got crappy once got send to Austalia...



Biggest load of bullsh!t i've heard in a long while... All the people I see over here in Europe suffer the same issue, sometimes to the point where the bar is F'd and they have to get a whole new bar!

I heard they said the same thing to a few people about the fast track breaking as well... good to know they are consistent with their lying at least .

QinClay
WA, 17 posts
3 Apr 2013 8:19PM
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sir ROWDY said...
QinClay said...

He´s spoke to North-Kiteboarding today and they said they´re aware of this problem.
Although it´s a very small number...
Maybe all got crappy once got send to Austalia...



Biggest load of bullsh!t i've heard in a long while... All the people I see over here in Europe suffer the same issue, sometimes to the point where the bar is F'd and they have to get a whole new bar!

I heard they said the same thing to a few people about the fast track breaking as well... good to know they are consistent with their lying at least .


... just wait until the season kicks-off in europe.
They´ll run out of inserts soon!



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