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Annoying tt's in wave zone

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Created by Surfer62 > 9 months ago, 13 Dec 2016
mattkennedy
QLD, 287 posts
14 Dec 2016 8:33PM
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kitingtopher said...
cauncy said..






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This pic gets wheeled out more than farnseys last tour too.
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Jono77
WA, 351 posts
14 Dec 2016 6:43PM
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surfingboye said...
It's not about tt riders being kooks or anything like that... It's more about the safety aspect. People need to stick to the flat water on their tt's, seen too much sketchy stuff with them in the surf.


Why are twin tips dangerous in the surf?

I ride a surfboard and don't really care what anyone else does but am interested why they are dangerous

kitingtopher
SA, 313 posts
14 Dec 2016 9:23PM
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did notice the light patches on the picture from cauncy.s wall

Peahi
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14 Dec 2016 10:25PM
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Jono77 said..

surfingboye said...
It's not about tt riders being kooks or anything like that... It's more about the safety aspect. People need to stick to the flat water on their tt's, seen too much sketchy stuff with them in the surf.



Why are twin tips dangerous in the surf?

I ride a surfboard and don't really care what anyone else does but am interested why they are dangerous


I think there was one bloke talking talking about doing downwinders with boots on, then posted here his misfortunes unaware of the fundamental problem

s_h_a_n_o
WA, 88 posts
14 Dec 2016 7:55PM
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surfingboye said..
It's not about tt riders being kooks or anything like that... It's more about the safety aspect. People need to stick to the flat water on their tt's, seen too much sketchy stuff with them in the surf.



Are we talking about TT riders in boots, or just all TT's?

If you're meaning boots, I can understand the argument, but just say boots, not TT's.

If you're meaning all TT's, then I don't understand how riding a TT with footpads in the surf is any more unsafe than a surfboard strapped/unstrapped.

If you're meaning kooks on TT's, then see above re:boots - plenty of kooks on surfboards too. At the same time, we were all kooks at some point, gotta learn/develop somewhere.

Anyways, I ride a Mako in surf(mush), so this argument is invalid to me

Plummet
4862 posts
15 Dec 2016 1:20AM
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Did an epic downwinder on sunday with 11 dudes. 30km of rh wave after wave after wave awesomeness. 25-30 knots. shoulder to head and a half.
The were 3 or 4 surfboards, a couple strapped, a couple strapless. I busted the first half on the foil (which was stupid!) then mutanted the rest. The rest where on TT's with a couple of them in boots!...

Anyway. everyone was amped and had a blast. nobody got all pissy about the fact that someone else was riding a different board.

I really enjoy watching a good TT rider slay some surf. its a different style to sb riding. More powered slash and boost style.


IanR
NSW, 1264 posts
15 Dec 2016 6:58AM
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surfingboye said..
It's not about tt riders being kooks or anything like that... It's more about the safety aspect. People need to stick to the flat water on their tt's, seen too much sketchy stuff with them in the surf.


Last serious injury I saw was a shatter leg that required surgery, a steel rod and multiple screws
Strappless surfboard rider in 2m swell happened in the mid break. Listening to him scream as the lifeguards tried to move him from the wash zone will stay with me for a while
Riding any board in the surf has its dangers

You keep strapless surfboard guys out of the flats and I won't ride the surf

You do realise that Leo (Zebra80) is proving to be a better ambassador for the sport that you surfingOzonePimpboye.

KIT33R
NSW, 1715 posts
15 Dec 2016 10:54AM
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I witnessed this surfboard Injury. Hey, what happened to the good old days when all you complained about were the windsurfers?

Youngbreezy
WA, 1012 posts
15 Dec 2016 9:06AM
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^^^you guys are all falling for surfingboyes trolling he does this every time, just makes an unsubstantiated comment about twin tips being dangerous then laughs as the replys come in

And cauncy you have rolled out that photo almost as many times as plummet has plugged his vid. If you look closely you can see how old school his bar is which just goes to show how long ago it was that anyone gave a **** about somone riding a twin tip in the surf !!

Seriously if we were all the total arseholes we act like on the Internet every launch spot would be a war zone

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
15 Dec 2016 11:48AM
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Youngbreezy said..

Seriously if we were all the total arseholes we act like on the Internet every launch spot would be a war zone


Plenty of evidence that it is a lot of the time

bjw
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15 Dec 2016 5:16PM
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Youngbreezy said...
Seriously if we were all the total arseholes we act like on the Internet every launch spot would be a war zone


Bring on the war zone!! It's getting too crowded anyway.

A few weeks ago we did a downwinder on the central coast. We got to a point break. Cross offshore, as good as I've seen it. Everyone is lining up from out the back for the rare epic sets. Then you'd aim for the last lip
Section before 3 surfers would get the scraps and who would drive in on his Fuel, cut us off and boost in the best part of the waves? Twin tippy McTipster.

Not to make matter worse there is a couple of guys paddling around here. It's not the only time I've seen this sort of tool.

I know everyone is preaching love fest. But surely I'm not alone in seeing this type of behaviour?

Plummet
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15 Dec 2016 4:36PM
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bjw said...
Youngbreezy said...
Seriously if we were all the total arseholes we act like on the Internet every launch spot would be a war zone


Bring on the war zone!! It's getting too crowded anyway.

A few weeks ago we did a downwinder on the central coast. We got to a point break. Cross offshore, as good as I've seen it. Everyone is lining up from out the back for the rare epic sets. Then you'd aim for the last lip
Section before 3 surfers would get the scraps and who would drive in on his Fuel, cut us off and boost in the best part of the waves? Twin tippy McTipster.

Not to make matter worse there is a couple of guys paddling around here. It's not the only time I've seen this sort of tool.

I know everyone is preaching love fest. But surely I'm not alone in seeing this type of behaviour?




There's dick bags in every discipline.

I've had surfy mcsurfboard mowing the lawn smack in the middle of the best boosting section of the beach. And so called mr experienced sb rider being droppy mc drop in , in the middle of the line up!

CJ2478
NSW, 484 posts
16 Dec 2016 7:11AM
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To be fair, I think alot of you SB guys are non surfer, old mid life crisis guys mowing the lawn and not actually surfing waves

Surfer62
1357 posts
16 Dec 2016 10:48AM
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Guys, remember this is under the banner "humour" chill out and have fun on whatever floats your boat.

See ya soon HAAK


NthScb
WA, 73 posts
17 Dec 2016 1:48PM
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I am one of those blokes! And frothing on it!




Gorgo
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17 Dec 2016 7:25PM
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mowingthelawn said..

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To quote Pauline hanson
'Not all tt riders are kooks, but all kooks are tt riders'


Nope. Kooks are kooks whatever they ride.

I think it's perfectly fine to ride a TT in the surf, as long as you work in with all the other riders in the lineup. Not so happy with TT riders who ride at a different angle to everybody else and do lame boosty tricks that get in the way of everybody.

Equally not happy with strapless crew who can't ride strapless. No problem with competent strapless riders. Definitely go and practice somewhere else and get your skills up before you venture into a lineup. Nothing worse than strapless kooks who ride in, try a turn on a wave, lose their board, then spend ages dragging around in the middle of the best section blocking everybody else.

Peahi
VIC, 1473 posts
17 Dec 2016 8:57PM
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CJ2478 said..
To be fair, I think alot of you SB guys are non surfer, old mid life crisis guys mowing the lawn and not actually surfing waves


Wouldn't be so sure about that most guys I know started with surfing but don't want to drive 100+ kms and paddle 4 kms for maybe 3-4 worthwhile waves.

As a surfer the kite opens up so much many options to generate power and speed to shred a wave.

Only a surfer knows the feeling.

toppleover
QLD, 2043 posts
17 Dec 2016 8:37PM
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Exactly ^^^, don't waste your time explaining they will never understand. LOL

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
17 Dec 2016 8:28PM
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Youngbreezy said...
^^^you guys are all falling for surfingboyes trolling he does this every time, just makes an unsubstantiated comment about twin tips being dangerous then laughs as the replys come in

And cauncy you have rolled out that photo almost as many times as plummet has plugged his vid. If you look closely you can see how old school his bar is which just goes to show how long ago it was that anyone gave a **** about somone riding a twin tip in the surf !!

Seriously if we were all the total arseholes we act like on the Internet every launch spot would be a war zone


Who gives a f...k about surf boards
If your such a purist stick to your offshore surf conditions and don't impose your sport on ours

Plummet
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18 Dec 2016 5:41AM
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HighzaKite said..




Only a surfer knows the feeling.



I call bollocks to this.

I've surfed thousands of waves kiting. Yet i'm not a surfer. I know what the feeling of surfing waves feels like. And to be honest. Its a bit boring. That's why i'm not on a surfboard in the waves. don't like that surfboard feel. Surfing without a kite in general is bat**** boring with way to much paddling then sitting and waiting for a token few seconds of glory.

Sure its fun to be on a double head charging face. Ripping down the line, no power in the kite, smacking some lips and doing some gnarly powerful bottom turns. But I find it wanting. I find powering up with the power of the kite and the wave at the same time more dynamic.

This purist bul**** of having to ride waves like a surfer on a surfboard is just that, purist bull****. There's so much more to be had than just waves.

Now if you love the purist wave riding experience. Good for you. carry on riding the way you want to ride. Is it better than how someone else enjoys they way they want to ride? No. Do you have the secret to eternal happiness that no one else who doesn't surf can understand? No!

There's enough room out there in the ocean for all forms of fun. Just respect the other dudes fun. if that happens to be in the line up riding down the line then respect that. work around it. If its someone who likes to boost off the waves lips on a TT then respect that too. Work with other peoples stoke and everyone will enjoy. If your a surfing down the line you don't automatically have priority to all the waves on the beach. Take a wave ride it have some fun. If that part of the beach also happens to be the best boosting place (which often times it is) then ensure the boosting guy gets a go at boosting off the lip.

I do both. I'll ride some waves. get bored with the down the line riding, switch to upwind wave riding then switch to boosting off the lips, All on the same day in the same line up. If your respectful of others and they are respectful of you then its all good.

It only turns to **** if you think you fun is more important than the next guys fun....

Mastbender
1972 posts
18 Dec 2016 5:43AM
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Interesting thread, getting all over the TT boards and their riders, at least you aren't treating the pickle fork riders with the same distain, those boards must still be held in high regard I suppose.
There is nothing quite so beautiful as a pickle fork on a wave.

Gazuki
WA, 1363 posts
18 Dec 2016 6:16AM
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Plummet said..


HighzaKite said..




Only a surfer knows the feeling.





I call bollocks to this.

I've surfed thousands of waves kiting. Yet i'm not a surfer. I know what the feeling of surfing waves feels like. And to be honest. Its a bit boring.



Classic seabreeze!! Guys states that only a surfer know the feeling and get the above response,. call bull****,.. big rant but at the same time admits he's not a surfer but is an authoritarian on the topic, classic!!

I personally believe it is true that only a surfer know the feeling,.. yes you can kitesurf a wave but they are chalk and cheese and trying to compare the two is impossible. Nothing even comes close to pure surfing good waves. Kiting is a good substitute but I personally have never been able to replicate the stoke I get from surfing in kiting. Even when its cranking, you are never as connected. That initial drop, bottom turn and set up is something spirital, where as on a kite it just feels forced.
Why do you think it is such a huge part of the industry, ie trying to make kiting more like surfing. From boards that feel "more real" to sliding spreaders, ball loops etc,.. even the ambassadors of the sport admit there is a constant drive to get kiting closer to surfing but were not there yet,,. cant wait till we are though :)!!

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
18 Dec 2016 7:14AM
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Yep so many ways to have Fun with waves - up slash down bottom turn up slash down bottom turn up......

It all gets rather boring the repetitiveness and mixing it up makes it more fun - like trying to time a big jump from behind a wave and land on the face with a mid downloop bottom turn, then smashing up into the lip for a low backroll kiteloop to throw you out in front again.
Done using my O.R Jester surfboard and TT - what kind of kook class does that put me in, while my mate was doing the Up down up down thing ?

Just have fun whatever

Plummet
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18 Dec 2016 10:25AM
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Gazuki said..

Plummet said..



HighzaKite said..




Only a surfer knows the feeling.






I call bollocks to this.

I've surfed thousands of waves kiting. Yet i'm not a surfer. I know what the feeling of surfing waves feels like. And to be honest. Its a bit boring.




Classic seabreeze!! Guys states that only a surfer know the feeling and get the above response,. call bull****,.. big rant but at the same time admits he's not a surfer but is an authoritarian on the topic, classic!!

I personally believe it is true that only a surfer know the feeling,.. yes you can kitesurf a wave but they are chalk and cheese and trying to compare the two is impossible. Nothing even comes close to pure surfing good waves. Kiting is a good substitute but I personally have never been able to replicate the stoke I get from surfing in kiting. Even when its cranking, you are never as connected. That initial drop, bottom turn and set up is something spirital, where as on a kite it just feels forced.
Why do you think it is such a huge part of the industry, ie trying to make kiting more like surfing. From boards that feel "more real" to sliding spreaders, ball loops etc,.. even the ambassadors of the sport admit there is a constant drive to get kiting closer to surfing but were not there yet,,. cant wait till we are though :)!!


Oh. I failed to mention that I have surfed in the past. (20 off years ago now) But I don't call my self a surfer. Didn't do it for me then and doesn't do it for me now. All that waiting and bobing around for a token few seconds of glory. Sure its fun and I understand the droping initial drop feeling and bottom turn. Its not enough for me. But its not the only sensation in the world that's fun.

Its great that your stoked and that others are stoked on surfing. But its just one of many stoke worthy sports. For me, surfing is a dead duck. To slow to much effort for not enough fun per hour. So I don't to it. I need more minutes of fun per hour.




Gorgo
VIC, 5013 posts
18 Dec 2016 2:20PM
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I agree that the waiting and bobbing and paddling and crowding of surfing is crap. But if you had succeeded in properly surfing some waves then you would know that the feeling is insane. It's a bit like foiling. "This shouldn't be possible, but it is! I should not be in this position, but I am! Wow!"

Anyway, back to the topic, I have had some of my best surf sessions ever with a kite and a TT. When the waves are perfect glass and curling onto the reef, and the reef is sucking almost dry, and only a TT can ride over the shallow water through the section to the inside then that is perfection.

Doing a down loop air gybe onto a wave face is pretty special too. Bottom line is enjoy the surf without ****ing it up for everybody else.

djt91184
QLD, 1211 posts
18 Dec 2016 1:46PM
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Plummet said...
Gazuki said..

Plummet said..



HighzaKite said..




Only a surfer knows the feeling.






I call bollocks to this.

I've surfed thousands of waves kiting. Yet i'm not a surfer. I know what the feeling of surfing waves feels like. And to be honest. Its a bit boring.




Classic seabreeze!! Guys states that only a surfer know the feeling and get the above response,. call bull****,.. big rant but at the same time admits he's not a surfer but is an authoritarian on the topic, classic!!

I personally believe it is true that only a surfer know the feeling,.. yes you can kitesurf a wave but they are chalk and cheese and trying to compare the two is impossible. Nothing even comes close to pure surfing good waves. Kiting is a good substitute but I personally have never been able to replicate the stoke I get from surfing in kiting. Even when its cranking, you are never as connected. That initial drop, bottom turn and set up is something spirital, where as on a kite it just feels forced.
Why do you think it is such a huge part of the industry, ie trying to make kiting more like surfing. From boards that feel "more real" to sliding spreaders, ball loops etc,.. even the ambassadors of the sport admit there is a constant drive to get kiting closer to surfing but were not there yet,,. cant wait till we are though :)!!


Oh. I failed to mention that I have surfed in the past. (20 off years ago now) But I don't call my self a surfer. Didn't do it for me then and doesn't do it for me now. All that waiting and bobing around for a token few seconds of glory. Sure its fun and I understand the droping initial drop feeling and bottom turn. Its not enough for me. But its not the only sensation in the world that's fun.

Its great that your stoked and that others are stoked on surfing. But its just one of many stoke worthy sports. For me, surfing is a dead duck. To slow to much effort for not enough fun per hour. So I don't to it. I need more minutes of fun per hour.







Sounds like you dont have the slightest clue about surfing then

eddiemorgs
QLD, 391 posts
18 Dec 2016 2:26PM
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Surfer62 said..
Guys, remember this is under the banner "humour" chill out and have fun on whatever floats your boat.

See ya soon HAAK




Hehe . You.... surfer62 ..... are a bloody trouble maker !

THE DONG
VIC, 518 posts
18 Dec 2016 5:55PM
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**** you cts are painfull. Same **** by the same people in every thread.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
18 Dec 2016 8:20PM
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I see a surf culture creeping into our sport, and imho it's not what our wind driven sports about
I love nothing more than having a session and sharing a beer afterwards , I don't care if your a poley, tt rider, strapless, freestyle , freeride, all the same to me, but I've noticed a few snotty surfboard I'm up my own arse riders visiting my local, and all have looked a big way off anything special

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
18 Dec 2016 8:24PM
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mowingthelawn said...
kitingtopher said...
cauncy said..






styling



This pic gets wheeled out more than farnseys last tour too.
New material boys


Well blow us away with some of your library
jT would make most of us look very ordinary on old gear , today



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