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Another day another shark attack - WA

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Created by SammyJ > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2010
SammyJ
WA, 570 posts
30 Oct 2010 7:11PM
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The way this trend is going we won't have to worry about crowd's anymore.
www.dailytelegraph.com.au/nocookies?a=A.flavipes

I might add that I'm currently sat here in my chair at work I can see the ammo jetty across the cockburn sound, as I cast my eye north along the coast I see woodies and kites in the sky. At a guess I would say it's just short of 10k's between the 2, take care crew.

Also, without trying to scare everyone to much, I would like to mention that I have heard heaps of stories of 2 resident sharks off the northern end of Garden island.

Mister Dugong
368 posts
30 Oct 2010 7:54PM
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Was surfin out the back waving at the helicopters. Could smell smoke thought there was a fire . Maybe some barrels of chem trail or something. Naturally sharks did cross our minds but that bait ball was just a bunch of dolphins and small reef sharks right? Wrong And the waves definitely not worth it, no one came and mentioned it!! Not gonna spear there now. Too many fisherman, sharks not fed well enough. To close to swan river mouth bull sharks as well as whites. Woodies hmmm ....... keep it!!!!

gruezi
WA, 3464 posts
30 Oct 2010 8:49PM
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Spacemonkey and I were talking about those grey suited trucks the other day when I told him how I did not like body dragging off Woodies the other day....well he said he recons that Woodies will be the next place, and he was right sort of.....I was no more than 6km from todays sniff and love bite. Hats off to the guy who grabbed da man's tail...........apparently da man didn't like to be bothered and pissed off.

Da man has a large territory and being in it is eerie, especially when all the kn fish killers have and are taking their food. I just hope that he don't get so hungry that he chomps first rather than taste ............hungry people lose their table manners too.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
30 Oct 2010 9:05PM
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Yes and how bout a BIG thumbs up (the backside) for the twat who teaching our local nasties to associate bait with humans in Shark cage Adventures

1 + 1 = $2

INfiniDIE
WA, 478 posts
30 Oct 2010 9:26PM
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Operant conditioning works the other way as well you know? If every time a shark encounters a human, it is hurt, then it will associate pain with humans and steer clear.

"It is the first attack in WA waters since surfer Nicholas Edwards was fatally mauled by a shark while surfing off a Margaret River beach in August this year."

obviously Wedge isnt part of WA, huh?

default
WA, 1255 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:28PM
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^^^i think you'll find the wedge bite is not widely known and pretty much confined to this forum, medical staff etc, spread by word a little from this forum and medical staff.

quite surprising actually, the media love a good shark story.

I love the media "first attack since..." geez it was only 2 months ago!

coupedeluxe
WA, 14 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:38PM
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Hopefully this might keep the euro's down this season

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
30 Oct 2010 10:50PM
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That could well be the one the fishermen saw this week in Bay 1 at Woodies ?
Does a 3M shark rate as 'big' to rod & line guys ?
And is a 3M shark really a 'great' white ?
I would have thought they would have to be at least 4 or 5M before they got to be called 'great'.

Bigwavedave
QLD, 2057 posts
31 Oct 2010 1:03AM
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I think they earn that title when they can bite a 'great' big hole in your arse cheek!!

puppetonastring
WA, 3619 posts
30 Oct 2010 11:10PM
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Are we about to see a renewed interest in board leashes happening.

Addikt
WA, 551 posts
30 Oct 2010 11:38PM
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I wonder what happend to the shark tagging operation where satellite receivers are installed and Surf-life saving groups, scientists and wildlife officials will be notified immediately a tagged shark moves near any one of 18 bright-yellow acoustic seabed devices. Can install them in all the yellow buoys they have now installed at some of the spots long the coast........Surely these grey suits are a prime candidate, especially if they are hanging around the local shores.

I heard they tagged 10 in WA am I'm sure alot of people would be happy to see a few more tagged would keep everyone happy on both sides of the fence......researches and the general public............. !

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
31 Oct 2010 1:41AM
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Me thinks good relaunch will be high on the list for those seeking new kites this season.

Fek -Ii think about big biters every time I'm body dragging near sunset (er.. and pretty much any other time I'm seperated from my board) but this is getting a tad uncomfy. 4 attacks, 2 fatalities in a few years.

I actually recorded eyewitness statements, on the scene at the water's edge, the day after the Cott fatailty some years ago and have only ever surfed there once or twice since.

Throw as many stats around as you care to about trafic fatalities vs shark attacks. When I (in my seal look-a-like wetty) am trawling back n forth to my shiny attractive board, I am keeping a sharp eye out for Grey busses![}:)]

pi22api22a
WA, 150 posts
31 Oct 2010 9:08AM
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Yeah they have tagged quite a few sharks around Perth, and the rest of WA. And they have recievers all over the coast including an array (one every 300m or so) from near Cot all the way out past Rotto.

Problem is that they have not tagged every shark (little bit hard to do), and have found that sharks dont hang around one area very long. The local legendary shark that 'lives' at such and such a spot is just not true....

But they do tend to show up where there is a reliable food source, eg Pink Snapper spawning, whale migration, etc.... Just hope they dont get to curious about that fast moving object that stops every once and a while and moves back and forth above my head,, so tempting!

default
WA, 1255 posts
31 Oct 2010 9:21AM
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just glad I'm not a learner trawling around as a human lure anymore. might see the noob numbers increase in the river this early season.

the walks
WA, 448 posts
31 Oct 2010 10:33AM
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default said...

^^^i think you'll find the wedge bite is not widely known and pretty much confined to this forum, medical staff etc, spread by word a little from this forum and medical staff.

quite surprising actually, the media love a good shark story.

I love the media "first attack since..." geez it was only 2 months ago!

Not really a fan of how the media like to dramatise shark stories, liam was "NOT" a shark attack victim, wrong place, wrong time and very lucky it was a single bite and run. As his dad i did'nt feel the need for the media hype.
We tried to inform the relavent authorities but there was a lack of interest, ho hum

Weta
WA, 893 posts
31 Oct 2010 11:12AM
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This time every year there is an increased number of sharks along the WA coast as they follow the whale migration south.............

I was told a few years back that some professional abalone divers dont dive off the WA coast in October - November due to this increased activity.I dont know how accurate this is???

Have there been any whale carcasses washed a shore this year as yet??? There were some pretty impressive photos last year of GW's feeding on them off Floreat Beach.

Sharks are always there it's their natural habitat not ours............Dont fall off & if you do learn fast board recovery.

For me learning to jump has become No.1 priority mind you the GW's of South Africa seem to have that covered

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
31 Oct 2010 2:30PM
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there's actually a shark attack registry in W.A... look it up on the net, and you can register your attack.

called the shark attack file or something.

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
31 Oct 2010 3:01PM
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Weta said...
the GW's of South Africa seem to have that covered





did you watch sharkville this morning ?

e0422713
WA, 975 posts
31 Oct 2010 4:27PM
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sharkattackfile.info

Weta
WA, 893 posts
31 Oct 2010 6:12PM
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e04##### sorry forgot your number..............i haven't checked the link and i probably wont i figure that's a definite "Do Not Read" before heading out on the water.

Apparently there has been shark attacks as far up the Swan as Guildford. Reckon its probably bull sharks; murky water; not good.

Gotta feel for the noobies body dragging this time of year.....its like a human lure. Sorry guys & gals. I had a bad one when starting out; i did a huge overpowered deep water start when i was learning to get going on my board. Anyway the board flicked up and gashed my shin open luckily i didnt realise until i was back on the beach but that was after body dragging 300 metres back into shore at dusk down at Leighton.

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
31 Oct 2010 6:21PM
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nah its this page, the file appears to not be working though
esportsdesk.com/leagues/pick_league.cfm?clientID=6231&leagueID=0

INfiniDIE
WA, 478 posts
31 Oct 2010 6:41PM
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Yep, tis gonna be scary body dragging once you lose your board... still you are attached to a massive power kite that can launch you away from whatevers chasing you....

Charl dv
WA, 2485 posts
1 Nov 2010 1:48AM
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not a problem if u ride bindings

myusernam
QLD, 6133 posts
1 Nov 2010 8:10AM
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the shark brushed past a 'large' man to bite the snorkelling instructor who
WAS WEARING A SHARK SHIELD!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Glowing product endorsement

djdojo
VIC, 1607 posts
1 Nov 2010 9:56AM
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Charl dv said...

not a problem if u ride bindings


Save you from sharks, make you look 5 pounds thinner, go better with coke, fight germs that may cause bad breath ... is there anything bindings can't do!? Where can I get some?! Will the revolution be televised?

markass
WA, 143 posts
1 Nov 2010 10:13AM
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taken from www.sharks.org.au.......

Recommendations for shark attack avoidance
Seek advice of local people before swimming, surfing or diving in areas where shark attacks have occurred.
Reason: Locals know the area.
Remain aware of your surroundings and the behaviour of marine life nearby.
Reason: Their actions may alert you to the presence of marine predators.

If you suddenly become uneasy, leave the water immediately.
Reason: Your instincts may be providing a warning of impending danger.

Do not harass or touch any shark, even a small one.
Reason: Any shark is capable of inflicting injury.

If swimming or surfing do not enter the water when sharks are present, and leave the water the water slowly and quietly if they are sighted or you are requested to do so by a lifeguard.
Reason: If sharks are in the immediate area, the risk of injury is increased.

Do not swim, surf or dive alone
Reason: Sharks may be more likely to bite solitary individuals, and if you are injured there is nobody to help you.

Do not stray far from shore
Reason: You are farther from assistance, should you need it.

Avoid swimming at night.
Reason: There is strong evidence to suggest that sharks move in closer to a land mass (island or shore) following sunset.

Avoid murky or turbid water.
Reason: Some species of sharks hunt in murky or turbid water, others may bite because of stress, and others may simply fail to recognize an
object and bite to find out what it is. It is also difficult to defend yourself from something you cannot see.

Avoid swimming close to river mouths.
Reason: Freshwater plankton dies and attracts fish, some species of fish spawn at river mouths, and carcasses of dead animals are carried
downstream. All these conditions attract predators such as sharks.

Be cautious when swimming in the breakers.
Reason: Sharks may become stressed due to the low visibility and sudden presence of humans..

Don't swim close to sandbars.
Reason: Any natural structure attracts a variety of marine animals and may be a feeding area for sharks.

Be cautious crossing channels between sandbars or on the edge of steep drop offs.
Reason: These are often feeding areas for sharks.

Avoid swimming or surfing near jetties.
Reason: These are often feeding areas for sharks.

Do not corner a shark or cut off its path to open water.
Reason: It may feel threatened and react defensively.

Avoid swimming in areas where birds are diving into the water.
Reason: Diving birds indicate schools of fish are in the area and the likelihood that sharks in the area is increased.

If schools of fish are milling nearby, do not attempt to chase them from the area.
Reason: Frightened, darting fish create distinctive sounds that are very attractive to sharks.

If baitfish are leaping at or above the surface, leave the water immediately.
Reason: Predator fish, possibly sharks, are feeding on the baitfish.

If spearfishing or collecting shellfish, do not attach your catch to a stringer at your waist, and stay alert when removing
a fish from your spear. If wade-fishing, do not carry bait on your person.
Reason: A shark attempting to snatch your catch or the bait, could inadvertently injure you.

If spearfishing, change your location frequently.
Reason: The vibrations of speared fish attract sharks.

Avoid areas where any type of fishing activity is taking place or offal is dumped into the sea.
Reason: These areas attract sharks.

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.

Leave the water when pods of dolphin cluster or head inshore
Reason: This behavior is often associated with the proximity of sharks.

Avoid swimming, surfing or diving in the vicinity of pinniped haul-outs or rookeries.
Reason: These animals are the prey of large sharks, including white sharks.

Avoid high contrast swim suits
Reason: It is thought sharks are attracted to high-contrast objects.

Refrain from excess splashing or making quick, abrupt movements in the water.
Reason: It suggests an animal in distress.

Do not swim with dogs or horses.
Reason: Their splashing may attract a predator.

If a shark approaches uncomfortably close, keep it at bay with your speargun or a shark “billy”.
Do not attempt to spear the shark unless you think an attack is imminent.
Reason: The shark may simply be curious, but if you respond with aggression the shark may react in the same way.

If you are bitten by a shark and you are wearing a wetsuit, don't remove the wetsuit except to control arterial bleeding.
Reason: A wetsuit acts as a pressure bandage and restricts the loss of blood.

Take both a CPR course and an advanced first aid course.
Reason: Many fatalities in the Global Shark Attack File (GSAF) could have been avoided if arterial bleeding had been recognized and stopped, and basic life support provided until professional medical assistance arrived. The life you save could be your own or that of a loved one.



tightlines
WA, 3481 posts
1 Nov 2010 10:46AM
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markass said...

taken from www.sharks.org.au.......

The presence of porpoises and dolphins may indicate sharks are hunting in the area.
Reason: These species often feed with sharks. Dolphins and sharks are both fish eaters.


We spotted one about 500-800mtrs out in front of the Mullaloo Surf Club whilst doing a down winder late saturday arvo but didn't hang around to check out what type, how big etc.
We spotted a pod of dophins first then a larger, darker more triangular fin.

kiterdan
WA, 679 posts
1 Nov 2010 11:47AM
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Addikt said...

I wonder what happend to the shark tagging operation where satellite receivers are installed and Surf-life saving groups, scientists and wildlife officials will be notified immediately a tagged shark moves near any one of 18 bright-yellow acoustic seabed devices. Can install them in all the yellow buoys they have now installed at some of the spots long the coast........Surely these grey suits are a prime candidate, especially if they are hanging around the local shores.

I heard they tagged 10 in WA am I'm sure alot of people would be happy to see a few more tagged would keep everyone happy on both sides of the fence......researches and the general public............. !




I had a chat with one of the senior lifeguards at leighton about sharks. I find it funny that people only talk about sharks when they're seen/attack - pretty sure they're always there - always have been and always will be. Summer brings about more people and therefore a greater chance of being 'attacked'. Imagine the number of sharks that cruise past that aren't seen.
Anyway, he told me about the installation of these repeater stations. Apparently they gave up ringing up the surfclubs after a week because they were making calls every hour. This either means that there is a resident tagged shark off Leighton or there are a lot more tagged sharks in the water.
I would prefer from a conservation point of view that it's the latter - plus it would be kind of commical when/if the media got hold of it and wrote news articles 'Over-population of Sharks in WA Waters' or some other crap.

Seriously, if you're only thinking about sharks being in the water now, you are pretty naive. Just as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, sharks will always be there.

newo
WA, 250 posts
1 Nov 2010 12:00PM
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dear watersports... i quit.

getfunky
WA, 4485 posts
1 Nov 2010 12:01PM
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My advice from my surfing days is to always be in decent proximity of someone heftier than yourself.

I figure the hungry grey bus will prefer to plow through the all you can eat section instead of the weedy lookin salad bar.


Hey Greenpat and Tightlines are you guys free for a downwinder this weekend?



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