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Created by max14 > 9 months ago, 22 Mar 2010
max14
SA, 220 posts
22 Mar 2010 2:28PM
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I just wanted to bring to light what has recently happened to two lads (both under 23 Yeats old) whom which I know. Both are now in the spinal ward with very little (less than 5%) of walking again all because of very small mistakes. They both ride motocross bikes and are both very experienced, and a simple lapse in concentration means that they will probably never walk again.
I just wanted to relate this to kiting...and hopefully we can all take this as a caution. One little mistake is all it takes, PLEASE be careful, no matter whether ur a beginner or a pro.

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
22 Mar 2010 12:50PM
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Any1 wanna jump the currumbin wall today with me? I know the wind is ****ty and I'm an average kiter but I just bought a GoPRO HD noob edition and I wanna test it out. PM me if yous are keen.

max14
SA, 220 posts
22 Mar 2010 3:38PM
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My point exactly... Sir rowdy you do sometimes make some sense...

Oh and just to add one detail, it was two seperate accidents...

goofy foot
42 posts
22 Mar 2010 2:10PM
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I make little mistakes all the time when kiting. The consequences are never anything like serious spinal injuries. Mistakes when boosting big in shallow water could lead to serious spinal injuries but more likely a broken limb. Now freestyle Motox or motorbikes in general are in a very different risk class.

Riding dirt bikes is the best fun you can have with your clothes on but needs to be approached with an ever present conservative mindset and a sense of restraint - especially as one gets older. As you become more proficient the speeds increase as do the height of the jumps and the consequences often involve plates, pins and screws and mostly some type of physical disability that will remain with you for your entire life. Imo Freestyle MotoX and to a degree SuperX does not pass a wise mans risk reward analysis.

Kiting is great for people 30 years plus who still hanker for something 'extreme' and some big air. The risk reward equation is pretty hard to beat IMO, touch wood.

PS Fingers crossed for the lads

max14
SA, 220 posts
22 Mar 2010 4:59PM
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Just to clarify, I know for sure that one of the lads went over the bars and a relitivly slow speed... It was not freestyle, it was not supercross or anything crazy, just a simple crash. The other we r still not sure what happened and it only happened last weekend so it's still very raw with us. That being said I put this up as a reminder to everyone that it could happen so easily... I appreciate that we r not doing backflips on a bike but... This goes to those reuben Lenten wannabes like me too...

the gibbo
WA, 776 posts
22 Mar 2010 2:34PM
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this subject has been a thought of mine alot, as i progress kiting wise, mainly new stuff i will try further out away from shore, people, rocks n ****. Why do alot of guys do tricks in 2 inches of water(if a kiter does a jump a and no one sees it did it really happen(i stole that line,thanks whoever you are, ultimate wisdom)) ???

Adds fuel to the fire of the have no fun anywhere councils if when someone really $%^# up.

Hurry up with whole body transplants, damn lazy surgeons, scared to try new ****.
Good luck to your mates!

terryzarmzof
QLD, 336 posts
22 Mar 2010 5:37PM
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thats why i bought a kite and not a dirt bike

SUNAMI
NSW, 90 posts
22 Mar 2010 7:06PM
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i know to well, i did my ankle in on xmass eve from dicking about with my kite on the shore.
3 mouths on it is still stuffed and maybe an op to fix it.
so it may be 8 mouths till it back to normal and it only tock 1 second to stuff it.

Ptussy
WA, 86 posts
22 Mar 2010 4:31PM
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After a serious injury, often 'back to normal' is not how you remember 'normal'. Certainly best to avoid it.

lostinlondon
VIC, 1159 posts
23 Mar 2010 10:01AM
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max14 said...

Just to clarify, I know for sure that one of the lads went over the bars and a relitivly slow speed... It was not freestyle, it was not supercross or anything crazy, just a simple crash. The other we r still not sure what happened and it only happened last weekend so it's still very raw with us. That being said I put this up as a reminder to everyone that it could happen so easily... I appreciate that we r not doing backflips on a bike but... This goes to those reuben Lenten wannabes like me too...


That's the irony of these things, often it's not the big smashes that put us in hospital.

Many serious injuries are partly due to an underlying undiagnosed physical problem (by that I don't mean the person is soft)

An ex of mine who is a physio says the best prevention from physical injuries is to maintain a level of fitness that is suitable for the sports you engage in - if that means doing Pilates/Yoga/Swiss ball in the off season than so be it.

Often compensating for an injury can lead to another injury.

Damn bodies, if cars were the same as people we would never buy one!

waxman
SA, 1390 posts
23 Mar 2010 12:58PM
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If you dont want to accept the posible injurys associated with a particular sport dont do it, extreme sports have extreme consiquenses. But you could quite as easily sustain the same injurys or worse at work home or crossing the road these are the people that i feel sorry for not the ones that had the choice.

ApatheticEnd
WA, 995 posts
23 Mar 2010 12:10PM
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I've recently given up motorcycle roadracing after a string of nasty injuries.

2007=torn MCL

2008=grade 3 AC joint separation, requiring 4 hour surgery, bone anchor, and ligamnet transplant. Nearly 12 months for full recovery, back racing again in less than 4.

2009=broken left radius requiring screws to put radial head back together, broken right radial head, and right radial styloid. 2 boken arms is a total bitch.

In motorcycle racing, we all know the risks. I've lost friends and had some hard times in hospital but I love it. I've decided to stop because I'm sick of being injured all the time. It is truley the most fun you can have, the most mentally demanding thing you can do, and nothing makes you feel more alive. I've met the greatest people and seen mateship like nowhere else.

I've taken up kiting, not because I think it's safe, just because I've wanted to do it for so long but racing consumes all of your money and sapre time (I spent $7K on tyres last year and haven't gone on a holiday since 2006). The landings are softer but I don't forget that it only takes a monents inattention for it to become very dangerous.

I wish your mates the best.

Kitewing
NSW, 31 posts
16 May 2010 10:40PM
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max14 said...

I just wanted to bring to light what has recently happened to two lads (both under 23 Yeats old) whom which I know. Both are now in the spinal ward with very little (less than 5%) of walking again all because of very small mistakes. They both ride motocross bikes and are both very experienced, and a simple lapse in concentration means that they will probably never walk again.
I just wanted to relate this to kiting...and hopefully we can all take this as a caution. One little mistake is all it takes, PLEASE be careful, no matter whether ur a beginner or a pro.


Every person i know who owns a moto has come off at some point and it's just down to dumb luck that they are ok. Moto's are so damn dangerous! A lot of my motorcross friends who have given up bikes for kites have never looked back! Yeah!

Danger Mouse
WA, 592 posts
19 May 2010 1:33PM
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Kitewing said...

max14 said...

I just wanted to bring to light what has recently happened to two lads (both under 23 Yeats old) whom which I know. Both are now in the spinal ward with very little (less than 5%) of walking again all because of very small mistakes. They both ride motocross bikes and are both very experienced, and a simple lapse in concentration means that they will probably never walk again.
I just wanted to relate this to kiting...and hopefully we can all take this as a caution. One little mistake is all it takes, PLEASE be careful, no matter whether ur a beginner or a pro.


Every person i know who owns a moto has come off at some point and it's just down to dumb luck that they are ok. Moto's are so damn dangerous! A lot of my motorcross friends who have given up bikes for kites have never looked back! Yeah!


Stating that it's only down to dumb luck is a little short sighted, I've been riding since I was 8 years old and am now 30, I've never done myself a major injury in a motorcycle get off.

There's no doubt in my mind that someone's attitude to riding has a great deal to do with it especially if you're not racing. It may not have been what you meant, but your post sounds like you're saying that anyone that gets on a motorcycle at all will inevitably do themselves a serious injury.

In fact, the more serious things I have done were due to Martial Arts and KITING!

Not having a go, just pointing out a different perspective on the situation.

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loverboy
WA, 614 posts
19 May 2010 2:18PM
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I don't think Blako was trying to tell anyone to stop trying stuff or not ride a motorbike- just making the point that we all become complacent and then the risk to get our thrill increases.......if we take a step back and think about it every now and then we might decide the risk does not equal the reward.....

lancekenny
SA, 402 posts
19 May 2010 4:20PM
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One of the cool things about being young is the feeling of invincibility... and a bit of the good ol Aussie attitude - it wont happen to me.

I broke my neck 2 years ago playing football and had part of the disc at L5 - S1 removed last year, this was a wakening for me - more so the back than the neck for some reason.

I still ride my dirt bike, still surf, kite and play heaps of other sports. Sometimes it pays to just take 5 and think before you launch into something, it can mean the difference between a life of enjoyment or constant pain and disability.

$hit does happen, you just need to limit your risk and that of others sometimes.

max14
SA, 220 posts
19 May 2010 8:53PM
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I simply meant this post to be a little reality check to all persons, it has certainly woken me up. I have ridden motos since I was young, but like all sports, **** can happen. It was not meant as a point to have a go at moto riders or otherwise. I want to apologise to anyone who has taken offence, it was not my intention. I agree that serious accidents can happen in any sport, thus why I made this post in the beginning. Safe travels to all...Blako

terminal
1421 posts
19 May 2010 8:06PM
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Jerome Bila broke his back at Luderitz last year riding in shallow water (he landed on sand). He is recovering.

http://www.speedkiting.org/site/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=53&joscclean=1&comment_id=16



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