Thought I'd start a new thread, that other one is filled with troll white noise. For those of us who never unhook lets share all the ways we can connect to our kites. I'll start with one of my setups.
Why do you have a donkey dick?
I assume it doesn't bother you- so you have just left it for resale?
i rode the board riding maui bar , really interesting set up on this kind of thing.
This knot/loop can be put on the top of your normal hook. Make the loop 5cm longer than the hook. Engage the chicken loop safety and feed through. You can use your normal hook but have the backup loop. Ive seen so many inexperienced riders accidentally unhook on mid launch and dont know what to do.
Oooh, I like that :-). Neat and functional. Where did you get the short leash please?
@ underoath =Yeah I just leave the DD, it can be removed easily, but it does not bother me or get in the way.
@ dave..... - Prussik knot works well but will extend the reach a bit for shorter riders and most females.
Here is another version using the Dynabar rope, with bungee and NP Bomb harness - I've used the same bar for all the pics, and its not the bar I use, this one is the kids/female bar with shorter throw and very small chicken loop.
Fairly sure several brands now offer short leashes and if they don't they soon will. Two for sure are Cabrinha and Ozone, as well as Dynabar offering their own short leash
This is the Dynabar one, which has the screw gate carabiner, and is the one I'm most in favour of as nothing can get trapped in it unlike the spring type carabiners
@steve. Yeah mate its only a backupline. you still use your hook as normal. Its cheap works well for beginners who are heavy on the bar and accidentally unhook a lot. It rides up a little but if you make the loop just right the kite is controllable.
Got some nice dynabar setups mate.
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What if your chicken-loop release jams ? ^^^
You're trapped and tethered to a power kite.
I guess you could cut the white rope with your bayonet like a good soldier boy.
Don't get me wrong I'm not being funny, this is a serious question. But alot of those picks look as though it would be very hard to release a kite should all go wrong, especially the second one??
I don't no much but I do know numerous companies have all spent considerable time and money reseashing and developing and come up with a very similar result. Why do you believe your designs are better? It looks like you altered it only to be different in the process made it harder to attach to and from the kite, more failure points made of a weaker material and a lot less safe??
Im seriously not pulling the p#ss just stating what I see, please enlighten me?
Mine is similar except I have a shackle on the rope. Note the spare rope in case the main one breaks.
I chose this set up following numerous accidental unhooking where a slack line can cause the chicken loop to drop and the donkey dick does not keep the loop on the hook.
Been using this set up for a couple of years and find it easy to release via the primary safety when necessary.
Select to expand quoteTerryMcTool said...
this one is the kids/female bar with shorter throw and very small chicken loop.
Steve, do you know where can I get one of these short ozone chicken loops? Or can I shorten my existing ozone chicken loop?
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What if your chicken-loop release jams ? ^^^
You're trapped and tethered to a power kite.
I guess you could cut the white rope with your bayonet like a good soldier boy.
Can't see how this Ozone version could jam Slave.
I've hit mine a couple of times and unless you were kiting in Kuwait during the Gulf war or in North America after the Exxon Valdez disasters - it works pretty well!
I reckon most name brands should have got there chicken loops sorted by now. If not - they should be recalling them....
Slave, I reckon you should hit up a shop - for a team rider price on a new leash!
Kitepower might do you a deal ??? Ask Terry !
That little red thing on the leash that says "RELEASE" seems to work OK too!
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Oooh, I like that :-). Neat and functional. Where did you get the short leash please?
That is an OZONE leash for racing, should be a standard item you can order from an ozone dealer ;)
Hunter s i may have one for you. Brand new ozone (i unhook) from 2015 kite. I have not seen it since i got the kite but will have a look (at lano for 5 days).
Does anybody know where I can get a spare red ozone release thing? Lost mine after using the new ozone short leash for 5minutes. Don't really know what happened.
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This knot/loop can be put on the top of your normal hook. Make the loop 5cm longer than the hook. Engage the chicken loop safety and feed through. You can use your normal hook but have the backup loop. Ive seen so many inexperienced riders accidentally unhook on mid launch and dont know what to do.
I like that the picture resembles a flaccid dong, seems fitting.
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Hunter s i may have one for you. Brand new ozone (i unhook) from 2015 kite. I have not seen it since i got the kite but will have a look (at lano for 5 days).
Cool Jono, pm sent
While the McTool setup looks just about perfect, if your rope breaks you loose the whole deal. I would be more inclined to have a second backup sliding rope like KIT33. Ropes do break, the backup gets you back to shore. Having had mine break a long way out on a tack I prefer the secondary rope backup.
Hey Dafish,instead of 2 ropes i got some 5mm dyneema
and fed it back through itself and tied off with a figure 8
knot either end.If there's a bit of wear no real hurry to
change it but still safe.
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Don't get me wrong I'm not being funny, this is a serious question. But alot of those picks look as though it would be very hard to release a kite should all go wrong, especially the second one??
I don't no much but I do know numerous companies have all spent considerable time and money reseashing and developing and come up with a very similar result. Why do you believe your designs are better? It looks like you altered it only to be different in the process made it harder to attach to and from the kite, more failure points made of a weaker material and a lot less safe??
Im seriously not pulling the p#ss just stating what I see, please enlighten me?
I'm not sure if you are serious or not, and so i'm confused about your post, but will answer it just in case, and because i guess others could be feeling something similar and I want to promote safety and getting people away from using hooks who don't need them.
Don't you realise that even if you ride with a standard harness hook, if the poo is kitting the fan and you have to flag or release your kite, you would still need to activate the red primary release? The is nothing on my setups that prevents the chicken loop from releasing.
The chicken loop release in all the pics is stock standard. I know it works before I leave the beach, because I have to assemble it each time I launch, AND I use it every time I land my kite. When was the last time you checked that your primary safety releases easily and properly?
The Ozone release is ultra reliable and has no known issues, and I test my one is functioning 2 times each session.
I ride with the stock standard Ozone mini leash connected to the flagging line and through the chicken loop, because thats my back up in case the rope breaks. If the rope broke the kite would not flag out and depower, potentially put me in a bad situation in waves with a downed kite. The bar would be easily within reach as I am using a short leash, so I'd just grab the bar, effectively now unhooked and if I needed to, I'd depower using the trimmer, and ride back to shore.
The Dynabar rope on the second setup is a rope inside a rope, the first one is the Ride Engine stock rope but I retied the knots and glued them so they cannot come undone and its in very good condition and has a load rating +1000kg, its not going anywhere and I will change the rope to a double (one inside the other) next season. I could add a double rope, but I don't see the need as I check my gear frequently.
The short leashes are stock standard and every Ozone kite now comes with one, but they can be purchased separately from any Ozone dealer. Same with Cabrinha, their kites come with the short leash and the short leash can be purchased separately from any Cabrinha dealer.
Here is another good setup (Mystic Warrior 3/Dynabar spreader bar and pad) for those that don't want the sliding system and prefer a central pull from the kite, but still never unhook.
Select to expand quoteHunter S said..
Steve, do you know where can I get one of these short ozone chicken loops? Or can I shorten my existing ozone chicken loop?
Yeah mate, any Ozone dealer can get them, although I doubt any of them other than KP Sydney would have them in stock. The product code is PUSHLPUCSM Push Away Chickloop PU Small for Race and Kids
Very easy to change out with the Ozone chicken loop.
Ozone. Just thought I'd say it one more time for good luck.
Short leash is the way to roll if not unhooking.
And yes I use an OZONE one.
I guess in your first picture I don't get it Terry Mctool. You have a ring sliding on your rope. Your leash and chicken loop get attached to that. IF the rope breaks you lose the lot. Am I missing something? Having the second rope or your leash secure on the bar would be better no?
Doh, you are right, I need two ropes to do what I said! Too early before coffee brain not fully engaged, maybe I can still edit brb. Nope too late, please ignore that bit, I was thinking if the chicken loop released accidentally....
I can drill another hole in the carbon spreader which I'll do today, and just attach the leash separately. Prior to taking the pics I had the leash attached to a ring on the side of my RE harness, with a short extension of crappy looking rope to lengthen the leash just enough, and after moving it to the ring (which is a lot cleaner) had not thought through the whole whatif scenario.
Hi terry mc,
I like it ring in lieu of pulley. Looks super simple.
Is wear greater and have you stayed with the dyna bar line (dyneema?) or found a better line type.
I've got a 2nd (just in case) line on the dyna bar.
Cheers
I guess for a guy that, and i quote :
" I know it works before I leave the beach, because I have to assemble it each time I launch, AND I use it every time I land my kite. When was the last time you checked that your primary safety releases easily and properly? The Ozone release is ultra reliable and has no known issues, and I test my one is functioning 2 times each session.
you sure fckd that up 
