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Go Pro footage?

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Created by doonut > 9 months ago, 27 Dec 2015
doonut
WA, 257 posts
27 Dec 2015 3:04PM
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Does anybody get any decent footage with go pro or other action cams, when mounted on kites or boards, deciding if i should get one i imagine the footage would be shakey at best?

axion
VIC, 144 posts
27 Dec 2015 6:49PM
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The best footage is from someone else taking pics, better to invest in a an slr and slab of beers and rope in a mate to take some pics

doonut
WA, 257 posts
27 Dec 2015 5:16PM
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Yeah thats about what i thought,

Smithy
VIC, 858 posts
28 Dec 2015 11:52AM
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You can get some good images (photos) from line mounts. But once you have done it once the novelty is over and camera sits in cupboard for the rest of its life or you strap it to your dog...

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
28 Dec 2015 9:02AM
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It depends what you're after and what you're expecting. Riding back and forth with a line mount isn't too bad, but as soon as you start doing tricks or flicking the kite around it tends to slide to the unwatchable side of things.

You can get some good shots with a Go-Pro but as other people have already said those shots mostly come from someone else filming you with it.

Kraut
WA, 542 posts
28 Dec 2015 9:27AM
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The easiest way is to ride up and down in front of Rowdy. Eventually he will give up and film you just so that you are happy and bugger off
PS. GoPro for sale, never used

sir ROWDY
WA, 5353 posts
28 Dec 2015 2:00PM
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hahaha

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
28 Dec 2015 6:32PM
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Your best bet is to have multiple go pros to cover every angle.
Here is a pic of Rowdy with his typical set up. lol








Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
28 Dec 2015 7:40PM
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axion said..
The best footage is from someone else taking pics, better to invest in a an slr and slab of beers and rope in a mate to take some pics


exactly this. even when someone else is holding your GO PRO on the beach its basicly useless footage. only way ive been able to get any decent photage is messing about with a cheap $10 plastic tripod weighing it down at a flatwater spot and putting it few dozen yards out into the water. pain in the ass mounting it to n anchored buoy with a post in it works aswell but you gotto dick about with it all trying to get it not to rotate around etc. best bets to get some sorta bamboo or stick that you can just dig deep enough into the middle the dam/river/lake so it doesnt move then attach it to that kinda creates a hazard for others but yea

best off with a misso and a dslr

misses and i treat camera duty as a begrudgeing gift bit like chocolate or flowers if you **** up you just fork out a "will stand in waist deep water and film you kiteing" card

markus86
QLD, 41 posts
29 Dec 2015 9:33AM
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The 3 type of perspectives that I think are the cleanest are:

1. The beach perspective, if you don't have a cameraman the Solo Shot 3 is coming out up to X65 optical zoom



2. A decent line mount for gopro, see ebay link below,

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/XSories-KLM3-Line-Attachment-for-Kite-Line-Mount-3-Black-/311502854417?hash=item4887045911:g:OroAAOSwp5JWarBJ

(beware there are 100's of $5 line mounts on ebay don't bother the cameras centre of gravity has to be directly between the centrelines for the footage to be stable.


3. A Gopro mount on top of a gath helment for POV, there are mouth mounts for gopro but I find the perspective is to low and often obstructed by the bar.


.be

Smithy
VIC, 858 posts
29 Dec 2015 11:01AM
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What a strange promo for the solo shot camera, the video does not show any images taken from the camera itself Just images of the camera tracking. Promo is targeting the technology and not the end result...

markus86
QLD, 41 posts
29 Dec 2015 10:13AM
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its not rubbish if you are implying that, 4K video up to x65 optical zoom, have a look on YouTube for some user results.

markus86
QLD, 41 posts
29 Dec 2015 10:17AM
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Smithy
VIC, 858 posts
29 Dec 2015 11:18AM
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markus86 said..
its not rubbish if you are implying that, 4K video up to x65 optical zoom, have a look on YouTube for some user results.


No not at all, just that they have got caught up selling the tracking technology and forgotten the end result. Even their web site only has one short time lapse video and none from the standard tracking.

Brazilnuts
156 posts
29 Dec 2015 8:54AM
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Brazilnuts
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29 Dec 2015 8:57AM
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rollo19
WA, 93 posts
29 Dec 2015 10:14AM
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A mate bought a go pro mouth mount - kinda like a mouthgaurd with a go pro on the end. He used it to kite right in close, follow down the line or go on top of the wave when we were going down. Thought he had some awesome footage until he realised it was on photo mode. Never bothered again. Something to try - your head should be nice and steady and leaves your hands free. Also your filming someone else not yourself.

Simsurf
WA, 238 posts
29 Dec 2015 12:13PM
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I got given a go pro for Christmas. Learnt you need a few photos, scenery and other angles to make a good vid since then. If you are prepared to stop and change mounts ( board, chest, wrist, lines etc) grab a few stills and random stuff, it's a good way to make a vid of a trip or couple of sessions.

coreyb
WA, 463 posts
29 Dec 2015 3:51PM
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A few years ago I got keen on the GoPro.

Here is a clip showing about as many angles as I could come up with. Will give you some idea if you think its your thing or not.




Lambie
QLD, 739 posts
29 Dec 2015 8:15PM
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My go pro footage just sits in the 'waiting to be edited "file - and will probably never will be - most is boring as !! what is the best editing software to get some value out of the electrons I have saved away??
B'nuts footage - and the one handed inside the barrel shows I need some more time on the water - a lot more time!!
But that said I have go pro footage from when I learnt 6 years ago and the progression till now - and its kind of encouraging to look back to where I was when I was 47 !!

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
29 Dec 2015 9:44PM
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Kozzie said..



best off with a misso and a dslr

misses and i treat camera duty as a begrudgeing gift bit like chocolate or flowers if you **** up you just fork out a "will stand in waist deep water and film you kiteing" card


as you can see here from today its all a bit wishful thinking really. make sure you turn the audio off

Loftywinds
QLD, 2060 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:41AM
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Hey guys - what's the back pole like mount for GoPro that shows you kiting from behind? But has to give you hands free control of the bar?

juandesooka
615 posts
30 Dec 2015 4:05AM
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I've done the gopro thing ... and am at the point that unless conditions are freakishly awesome, or a novel spot, am kinda over it.

Helmet mount is easy and out of the way, but the extreme fisheye flattens surf so much that you'll be bummed....that "head high" wave looks waist high at best. (Plus, if you get lucky enough to actually have someone taking pics from the beach, the nerd factor of that camera on your head means you will not be in their viewfinder )

Strut mount is fun, like having drone footage, can see the scenery. Also nicely out of the way.

I have a line mount but haven't experimented with it much yet. A friend using one said it's effect on kite performance is noticeable, in underpowered conditions. I also don't like potential to interfere with lines or safety system (filming yourself is fun and all, but not if it potentially screws up that epic session).

You can put gopro on a selfie stick, hold it along bar then once in a good spot, pull it out and film yourself as long as you can fly one-handed. I tried to do this in 30kt gusty winds though and just about pulled my arm out of its socket. You can also stick the selfie stick inside wetsuit back or impact vest, and get the looking down angle.

A gopro rule to follow: do a quick edit of your footage within 24 hours or consider it gone forever, you'll never want to watch it later! What I do is a quick skim through first and make notes of the times for shots want to save. Then do a quick rough edit. I used windows movie maker but found it had hassles with file formats....so I bought corel video studio, pretty cheap, works well. There's lots of good programs out there, should be easy to use. I hear iMovie is good.

Two strategies for editing: 1) hoping people might actually watch it: short shots, varied angles, only the highlights, under 2 minutes, preferably under 1:30. or 2) assume you are the only person who will ever watch it all the way through, keep all the long shots you like, and know that you'll like the coolest oldie in the home some day.

Another gopro rule: go buy the cheapest big external hard drive you can find. You will find out quickly why new hard drives are now in TERAbytes.

VRBones
130 posts
30 Dec 2015 6:51AM
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juandesooka said..
I've done the gopro thing ... and am at the point that unless conditions are freakishly awesome, or a novel spot, am kinda over it.

My personal opinion is that I'd rather have the footage to go back and review rather than decide beforehand whether it's filmable. I'm mainly using it for personal learning though.

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A gopro rule to follow: do a quick edit of your footage within 24 hours or consider it gone forever, you'll never want to watch it later! What I do is a quick skim through first and make notes of the times for shots want to save.

This. Reviewing the footage while it is still fresh in your mind and making notes with timings is really crucial. You can put off the whole editing process until later if you like, as long as you have good notes.

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
30 Dec 2015 12:42PM
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Loftywinds said..
Hey guys - what's the back pole like mount for GoPro that shows you kiting from behind? But has to give you hands free control of the bar?


good for wave rideing terrible for anything that requires any sort of skill. youll love it lofty :) but seriously folks any sort of slack line flying and you DO NOT want a line around this thing. theres no breakaway clips or nothing your toast so no rolls flips nuda

Gorgo
VIC, 4980 posts
30 Dec 2015 3:32PM
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GoPro are great cameras, but photography of all kinds is about the photographer and not about the camera.

You can take your GoPro out and get some shots. Some will be stunning. Most will be blah. You can take the most stunning shots and edit them together, and end up with a video that is as boring as bat shot.

So if you want to create some fantastic kitesurf footage, buy a GoPro, then devote your life to it for the next several years and get really good at it ... then think of something really, really special that will give your videos an edge and do that.

Kozzie
QLD, 1451 posts
30 Dec 2015 8:51PM
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Gorgo said..
... then think of something really, really special that will give your videos an edge and do that.


like take up flying because even bombing out over a dirtpan looks like some sort of awesome documentary :D

Just2807
180 posts
30 Dec 2015 11:38PM
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Soon, there will be following drones with 20+ min flight time at affordable prices. There are even some hexa-octacopters which can fly almost 60 mins. I am sure GoPro is investing in this. There are already at least 2 projects on kickstarter, 1 is even waterproof. U will be able to program it how that thing will fly around u while u drive, how far from u, autoangle for precise shooting etc etc. It could even have sensors to self avoid obstacles.

Google "Lily drone" and "AirDog" if u haven't heard of this.

Best thing is, when battery gets low, they don't just fall down, it's auto tracked back to u :)

Shark Biscuit
NSW, 340 posts
4 Jan 2016 2:09PM
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I feel the same about the Go Pro, it's a toy and after a couple of tries the footage gets boring and the camera will collect dust. That's why I rather invest the cash into another board or similar that brings me more joy until the more sophisticated drones will come (and likely get snared in my lines first thing).

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
4 Jan 2016 11:39AM
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I've always thought it would be great to strap a gopro to a buoy. Then tell everyone as they're setting up to throwdown huge tricks over the top of the buoy.
I've never actually done it though.

You need a pretty decent computer to edit HD video without losing your mind though.
This is a hidden cost since without heavy editing it will all be unwatchable.

chillout
WA, 38 posts
4 Jan 2016 4:44PM
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Hey, Has anyone tried a go pro with a Skord Mount in the waves?. I am looking for something that keeps a constant horizon through the kite turns, though not sure if the price (US129 + 35 shipping!) is worth it. Haven't seen any footage from a Skord mount in waves with quick kite turns so if anyone has any it would be great to see.



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