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Heavy kiters?

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Created by Ducklips > 9 months ago, 15 Oct 2015
winwil
VIC, 79 posts
17 Oct 2015 10:18AM
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Good to be part of this elete club of people of substance.

My love of food with carbs , chips , wine, beer and kiting make for a great combo. Life is too short for diet coke as far as I am concerned but I try the 2 + 5 diet which works a bit. I left our triple figure elete club for a brief moment but quickly corrected my mistake. My target is 100 even- substantial but still a little athletic but I am most of the time well away from that. I love the food during the 5 after the 2 even more and probably make up for the food I refrained from gutsing during the 2 which will keep me in your good company for many years to come.


To any Hundy noob's , my life became substantially easier and fun when first learning to kite when I got myself a 17 m zephyr after being repeatedly given 80kg advice from people without substance. I kite my 17m comfortably into the low 20's knots and it gives the grunt required at lower winds to have heaps of fun sessions. There are many big kite options out there these days. That would be the first kite size I would get for hundy's but make sure the high end and depower is good.

Of course once the wind cranks we also need smaller kites. 12,9m switchblades and a 7m envy covers me up to the low 40's. I don't use the 7 very often but I am glad to pull it out when wind is up.

With lower back twinges the fusion seat harness is super comfortable and much better than waste harnesses I have tried. I might try a sliding spreader bar set up to make toe side more comfortable but it has never really bothered me that much anyhow.

I enjoy a mako 150 for carving in the chop, and a 140 cab custom board for flatter water and pop.

Oresum kiting everyone

4XL
VIC, 222 posts
17 Oct 2015 10:19AM
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Sorry 109kegs 2 light. . . . .

Only considered 2 b big/heavy

Kiwiburger
NSW, 33 posts
17 Oct 2015 10:39AM
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cauncy said...
Lycra should only be made to fit chicks size 10 max, it's not a good look, same with fat cyclists and kiters in wetsuits,(bad pr for the sport)??


Nah I don't reckon, I myself like to see a person doing something and loving it regardless of what they look like. I personally take inspiration from a larger fellow that does something awesome, they make me feel like I can do it to. When I see super athletic people do it, I'm not surprised and it makes the goal seem further away. In saying that, you are totally entitled to your opinion.

Gilly3
QLD, 799 posts
17 Oct 2015 10:16AM
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polykarb said..
109kg.





WHAAAAAAAT!!

No wetty under board shorts
No boots
Fins????


Lets Kick and Rip it Captain........yeooow!

kemp90
QLD, 1694 posts
17 Oct 2015 10:40AM
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Gilly3 said..

polykarb said..
109kg.








how stable was that rail. im thinking of doing the same, but the pipe i have are heavy pressure pipe and weigh **** loads. im worryed about too much wobble

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
17 Oct 2015 1:05PM
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cauncy said..
Lycra should only be made to fit chicks size 10 max, it's not a good look, same with fat cyclists and kiters in wetsuits,(bad pr for the sport)??


That's why most of the companies only do up to XL in their kewl wetsuits, and do the bigger sizes in the dull, ugly models with small company logos. Same goes for harnesses.

freenomad
6 posts
19 Oct 2015 9:18AM
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cauncy said...
Lycra should only be made to fit chicks size 10 max, it's not a good look, same with fat cyclists and kiters in wetsuits,(bad pr for the sport)??


Funny people seem to think if your over 100 you are unfit/fat? Im a tradie and fairly tall ex footy player and gym regularly? Must be alot of small man syndrome in this sport? Hahs

freenomad
6 posts
19 Oct 2015 9:20AM
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Also looking at cabrinha stylus 16" for first board in the 165x48 size at the moment for first board? 120-125kgs on the goldie? Thoughts or other recommendations on size or board that compares?

polykarb
VIC, 284 posts
19 Oct 2015 2:08PM
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Imo... Don't buy a massive twintip...

Get yourself a fish surfboard, or a mini SUP. (Fish shape).

These are awesome for average winds and small surf etc.

When you buy a twintip that is as big as a fridge door you loose any performance and will struggle to ride it how a twintip should be riden.

So, instead of buying a board that will suck, get yourself a large surfboard that will do the job of making kiting fun.

4XL
VIC, 222 posts
19 Oct 2015 2:40PM
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2 big
North Spike 154 x 45. . . Great all round board to learn and keep later for sub 20kn. Carbon version even better

freenomad
6 posts
19 Oct 2015 12:00PM
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Thanks poly, what about the 155x46 next size down for heavy learners? Im also going to use it at the cable park to practice my boarding. Just baught an ozone trainer and started practicing on the weekend! Loving life

polykarb
VIC, 284 posts
19 Oct 2015 3:32PM
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Don't even buy a board yet.... Just use the schools stuff which is all nice and big until you know what you want.

Try a surfboard out if you can, one that's made for kiting.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
19 Oct 2015 2:40PM
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polykarb said..
When you buy a twintip that is as big as a fridge door you loose any performance and will struggle to ride it how a twintip should be riden.


Can you clarify that?

polykarb
VIC, 284 posts
19 Oct 2015 7:55PM
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Kamikuza said...
polykarb said..
When you buy a twintip that is as big as a fridge door you loose any performance and will struggle to ride it how a twintip should be riden.


Can you clarify that?


Large twintip = Not fun.
Large twintip = ****.
Large twintip = waist of time.
Large twintip = harder to do tricks.

I cannot clarify any further, do whatever you want... Have fun.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
19 Oct 2015 7:38PM
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polykarb said..

Kamikuza said...

polykarb said..
When you buy a twintip that is as big as a fridge door you loose any performance and will struggle to ride it how a twintip should be riden.



Can you clarify that?



Large twintip = Not fun.
Large twintip = ****.
Large twintip = waist of time.
Large twintip = harder to do tricks.

I cannot clarify any further, do whatever you want... Have fun.


True, spinny-flicky tricks or air style would suck, but simple rotation stunts and boosting works fine. The performance you gain in light wind can be enough to stave off boredom...!

SavageCarrot
NSW, 36 posts
23 Oct 2015 7:34AM
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100kg exactly (do I qualify?)... Unfortunately I'm a health freak, a vegetarian, and don't drink alcohol or any coke at all... and i'm not particular fat... is that a negative???

It never ceases to amaze me how many times people tell me I am crazy for pumping up a 12 when all the little blokes are on 9's

Kites...
- 9m Catalyst (25k to 30k)
-12m Catalyst (17k to 27k)
- Naish Fly (12k to 20k)... this is a bit of a truck and pulls heavily downwind

Boards...
- Axis Vanguard (142/44) - My usual board)
- Flydoor 160 (when I use the Naish Fly)

Other stuff...
- Mystic Majestic Harness (sooo comfy)
- NP Impact vest (Makes me look like I have a 6 pack)

Has anyone around 100kg tried a mako 150 or 165 in the surf???

MDSXR6T
WA, 1019 posts
23 Oct 2015 6:54AM
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I tried a mako 150 briefly and it felt nice but the foot pads were way to tight and a bit short for my feet so i was put off. If you have normal sized feet (9-13's) you should be ok.

Is it hard to be a vegetarian / vegan at 100kgs? I've been reading up on David Carter (NFL) and he's sitting at 136kg and hes consuming mountains of food.

daddycool
WA, 337 posts
23 Oct 2015 7:35AM
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absimmons said..
100kg exactly (do I qualify?)... Unfortunately I'm a health freak, a vegetarian, and don't drink alcohol or any coke at all... and i'm not particular fat... is that a negative???

It never ceases to amaze me how many times people tell me I am crazy for pumping up a 12 when all the little blokes are on 9's

Kites...
- 9m Catalyst (25k to 30k)
-12m Catalyst (17k to 27k)
- Naish Fly (12k to 20k)... this is a bit of a truck and pulls heavily downwind

Boards...
- Axis Vanguard (142/44) - My usual board)
- Flydoor 160 (when I use the Naish Fly)

Other stuff...
- Mystic Majestic Harness (sooo comfy)
- NP Impact vest (Makes me look like I have a 6 pack)

Has anyone around 100kg tried a mako 150 or 165 in the surf???


I'm 100kg and use a 165 Mako (King) in surf - love it !

jamesperth
WA, 610 posts
23 Oct 2015 7:40AM
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big boards can be fun.... I have the Flydoor XL and it's surprisingly small feeling. Plus it deals with surf pretty well due to the length and centre fin. Ive also ridden the large Mako and loved it, but they are a little different in terms of pop etc. Depends on what your riding style is.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
23 Oct 2015 1:19PM
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jamesperth said..
big boards can be fun.... I have the Flydoor XL and it's surprisingly small feeling. Plus it deals with surf pretty well due to the length and centre fin. Ive also ridden the large Mako and loved it, but they are a little different in terms of pop etc. Depends on what your riding style is.



Just... don't ride toeside the Flydoor XL without the center fun was ok if you made sure to dig in the back foot, but with the center fin in v3+ it's prone to want to turn upwind... Face plant!

Good board, light and fun.

GeoffD
WA, 73 posts
23 Oct 2015 12:09PM
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6' 6"
115kg (or thereabouts)

Dyno 17
Rebel 12
Rebel 9 (gets more use than you'd think!)

Sector 66
North Gonzales TT 142 x 42
Crazy Fly Cruiser TT 145 x 48

Baggy shorts and T-shirts - because sometimes Lycra is just a crime against humanity...

SavageCarrot
NSW, 36 posts
23 Oct 2015 3:23PM
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Is it hard to be a vegetarian / vegan at 100kgs? I've been reading up on David Carter (NFL) and he's sitting at 136kg and hes consuming mountains of food.


Not hard at all.. you just have to like carrots

SavageCarrot
NSW, 36 posts
23 Oct 2015 3:25PM
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daddycool said..

I'm 100kg and use a 165 Mako (King) in surf - love it !


Thanks.. Thats really appreciated.... i guess you dont have time to fluff that out a little... like, whats it like on flat water.. what wind range / kits you use it with etc.

also.. whats the ow end like in comparison to a medium TT (140 / 142)

winwil
VIC, 79 posts
24 Oct 2015 1:29AM
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I ride the mako 150 and have ridden the king. Here are some comments. I enjoy both but the 150 I use all the time. I am 105kg.

I have limited surf experience but these boards are excellent in bay slop and waves. In surf I have no reason to believe there are any issues but I have had limited experience. There are some short wave chop patterns where the usual smoothness of these boards is not present and you get more annoying chatter. This is rare and only in some wind conditions at my local beaches. On any longer period waves this is not the case.

Pop is limited but you can obviously boost of waves. In flat water they can still be fun but they are wave carve boards.

I like them best as twin tips but have tried the king in mutant mode as well. There are many different preferences amongst mako riders in terms stance and straps etc.

I would say the 150 feels like a 140 twin tip but with the characteristic mako feel. The king feels like a bigger board. Neither are great light wind boards. The rocker and curved edges and lack of buoyancy limit light wind performance. They are good in any wind above the threshold where they go upwind easily. When that happens they rocket upwind well. Very high winds is no problem.

Carving is exceptional on both boards but the 150 is more lively. The king feels more cruisy. You need a little extra front foot pressure for the mako a to work.maybe it is just me but if you are in mutant stance on the king with straps it feels like the weight distribution is too far back to me when riding into the waves but fine riding the waves. Strapless this is not problematic and you adjust the weight distribution automatically .

If you get a sweet spot with the kite highish and your weight on the kite a lot you ride on the concave edge it feels very smooth fast secure and pleasurable and easy on the legs.

They are a board design some people love and others don't see what the fuss is about. I would demo first if you can but you may need a few good hours to get the optimum feel.



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