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Created by dachopper > 9 months ago, 19 Aug 2016
dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
7 Oct 2016 11:30PM
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Here is my tack angle going upwind on the indestructo foil, at about 12kts



Plummet
4862 posts
8 Oct 2016 1:33AM
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MozKiter said..
Here are some pics of my progress. Next i need to shape my mast and attach





What you guys think?


looks good. There something satisfying about shaping wings.

Plummet
4862 posts
8 Oct 2016 1:35AM
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dachopper said..
Good ride today on my indestructible foil, I figure top speed is pretty low, like 15 kts, but it still cranks upwind and is super manoeuvre able at low speeds,

Anyhow, here is the high aspect foil cleaned up a little, awaiting me to make the other half. Trialed an alternate way to lay the carbon and it worked big time, just need one more tweak and we should be able to get razor sharp leading and trailing edges ;)

Any engineers in here geeky with CNC machine design?





Looks fast.

Can upload a picture of your completed indestructo foil?

MozKiter
94 posts
8 Oct 2016 3:23AM
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Thanks Plummet. Definitely. It is a work of art to get them exactly the same. Considering I shaped it with only a grinder it's not bad at all!

Now just for the tricky part. Attaching the mast....

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Oct 2016 10:04AM
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Apparently you done want sharp talking edges...

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
8 Oct 2016 12:53PM
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The Indestructo foil is the first picture on page 1. I made it because the other guy testing my foils has a special skill for breaking them, even after they have lasted me 2-3 sessions, he has managed to break them without evn hitting the bottom, or getting on them, after a single using a power stroke and doing who knows what with the board shape.direction. Probably trying to ride it sideways.....

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
8 Oct 2016 12:56PM
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Well.... If you want performance, the trailing can't be a "fat" edge, so it's got to be somewhat sharp, leading edge not so much as it's bluntish. I saw a research paper on it, and the sharp edge performed better, the gains were not worth creating a sharp front edged foil however

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
8 Oct 2016 1:09PM
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Indestructo foil



Plummet
4862 posts
8 Oct 2016 1:12PM
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That's industrial

jamesperth
WA, 610 posts
8 Oct 2016 4:07PM
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dachopper said...
Well.... If you want performance, the trailing can't be a "fat" edge, so it's got to be somewhat sharp, leading edge not so much as it's bluntish. I saw a research paper on it, and the sharp edge performed better, the gains were not worth creating a sharp front edged foil however




I can testify to the fact the trailing edges on my KFA Mako wings and mast are razor sharp. Like could cut a tomato thinly no problems.

Kamikuza
QLD, 6493 posts
8 Oct 2016 9:22PM
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There's a thread on it . . . elsewhere. I wasn't that interested in it as I don't care about ultimate performanpace or going fast I remember seeing this page: claesjohnson.blogspot.com/2012/08/rounded-or-sharp-trailing-edge.html

MozKiter
94 posts
12 Oct 2016 2:05AM
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Any further progress on your builds?

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
12 Oct 2016 9:32PM
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Not mine - I'm awaiting some spares for the 3D printer to finish the other half

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
13 Oct 2016 8:39PM
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Some pics of the second half of the fuselage, mating with the first half.

Vacuum gluing.






MozKiter
94 posts
13 Oct 2016 9:18PM
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Nice! Looks super cool

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
14 Oct 2016 2:04AM
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Thanks, any1 else got any pics of how they lay the fiber?

NKL
QLD, 98 posts
14 Oct 2016 12:28PM
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Hey Guys - if you are in Sydney and could come on down to the NKL Series II at Dolls Point next year 20-21 Jan - we would love to see all ya foils and give us all an exhibition foil display at 11am before our comp starts. We are introducing a Foil Race in 2018 and have our 1st event in 2017 at RBYC Melbourne for 1st timer foil racers. Love all of this thread - very innovative and exciting. Lets see whose homemade foil goes the best - Not Official NKL so no fees etc - but just an exhibition by addicts for fun. Georges sailing club will have a few of their guys out too. www.nklseries.com

MozKiter
94 posts
14 Oct 2016 2:00PM
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All of your foils are a bit more professional looking than mine. Mine looks like the sub $10 foil that it is . Well if it works I will be super stoked. To be foiling for less than $10 is an achievement. It doesn't even need to be fast or high performance. If it is rideable and can go upwind I will consider it mission accomplished.

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
15 Oct 2016 12:01AM
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Final layers of carbon going on tonight. Going to be fun unwrapping my new foil tomorrow !

Dialled in wingtip washout and tail stab angle of incidence too



dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
15 Oct 2016 1:54PM
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Out of vacuum bag, you can notice the washout in the second pic, so far so good !





MozKiter
94 posts
15 Oct 2016 7:58PM
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Epic build dachopper

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
15 Oct 2016 9:12PM
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Finished, clear coat drying..... I hate clear coats, but needed to trial one just to be sure they are crap.









dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
16 Oct 2016 4:53PM
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So finished today, total cost around $250. Take it out next weekend!








wdric
NSW, 1625 posts
18 Oct 2016 8:25PM
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HAHoly **** man, a bit of wind resistance on that bike frame in th ebackground

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
18 Oct 2016 7:16PM
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Wind resistance means nothing if you have a 3KW motor on the back wheel :)

Plummet
4862 posts
19 Oct 2016 2:23AM
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How many carbon Layers chopper?

pro merc
NSW, 300 posts
19 Oct 2016 8:31AM
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Chopper very nice work! I have been following this thread with interest. Great to see people making things, my background is manufacturing.

I have been developing a foil for the last year that is almost ready to bring to market. Its almost home made with all prototyping done in my factory.

Plummet
4862 posts
19 Oct 2016 1:29PM
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pro merc said...
Chopper very nice work! I have been following this thread with interest. Great to see people making things, my background is manufacturing.

I have been developing a foil for the last year that is almost ready to bring to market. Its almost home made with all prototyping done in my factory.




Can you share some pics of the wing?

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
20 Oct 2016 1:57AM
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Some parts have 2 layer carbon, some parts have 5, it's all about stiffness, but carbon is only as useful as the compressability of the stuff in the middle, and the tightness of how u wrap it. My indestructo foil was 2/3 layers and I can now say much easier to ride than a certain unnamed production foil that I tested. .... and regarding laminating, wood as a mandrel, .... is much softer than plastic unfortunately.

( unless u using jarrah) ...maybe

dachopper
WA, 1791 posts
20 Oct 2016 1:59AM
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pro merc said...
Chopper very nice work! I have been following this thread with interest. Great to see people making things, my background is manufacturing.

I have been developing a foil for the last year that is almost ready to bring to market. Its almost home made with all prototyping done in my factory.



Pro merc, what u using ? Cnc?



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