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Kitebud takes the love of kiting too far

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Created by cauncy > 9 months ago, 15 Oct 2017
cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
15 Oct 2017 8:42PM
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we all know Christian goes that extra mile with his love of kiting,
but shagging a kite on a public beach is plain wrong

Richoa
NSW, 478 posts
16 Oct 2017 9:17AM
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So we could get a kite Bub.

Well colour matched except hat, need to work on the look. Its all good to know how to kite safely and make love to a kite but its gotta look cool as well.

love yr work there Christian producing many new kiters.


cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
16 Oct 2017 2:34PM
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matey with no shirt is looking at him thinking, what the f... is that bloke doing, bloke with purple hat and board shorts is getting quite aroused and is doing the double hand ,hardon concealment stance

Saffer
VIC, 4501 posts
17 Oct 2017 7:38AM
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I thought this was how 5m kites were made?

Kraut
WA, 542 posts
17 Oct 2017 6:13AM
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Yeah but check out the hands of the guy wearing the skirt

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1071 posts
17 Oct 2017 9:43AM
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But Christian said once, he only teaches self-rescue out in deep water.

SaveTheWhales
WA, 1877 posts
17 Oct 2017 8:57AM
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there was a Very happy reason why larger blow up holes became Popular

Fly on da wall
SA, 725 posts
17 Oct 2017 12:07PM
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Great picture, great stance for self rescue. Hope some people learn this basic skill, it could really save you and your kite.

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
17 Oct 2017 10:40AM
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Fly on da wall said..
Great picture, great stance for self rescue. Hope some people learn this basic skill, it could really save you and your kite.


Not really I'd reckomend not having board near kite
1 klm out getting pushed up and down with swell or chop fin slices leading edge, oh f... why did I buy a single strut kite
I prefer to use the tip straps as holding onto a bridal as I found once isn't that great when the winds cranking and gusting over the swell
soon f.... up your hands
1 klm out would be a 3/4 klm self rescue

eppo
WA, 9505 posts
17 Oct 2017 10:59AM
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agreed, in swell and wind, that board would slice and dice that leading edge if you weren't careful.

KiteBud
WA, 1543 posts
17 Oct 2017 11:27AM
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cauncy said..



Fly on da wall said..
Great picture, great stance for self rescue. Hope some people learn this basic skill, it could really save you and your kite.





Not really I'd reckomend not having board near kite
1 klm out getting pushed up and down with swell or chop fin slices leading edge, oh f... why did I buy a single strut kite
I prefer to use the tip straps as holding onto a bridal as I found once isn't that great when the winds cranking and gusting over the swell
soon f.... up your hands
1 klm out would be a 3/4 klm self rescue




It's a good point, but don't be too quick to judge as you weren't at the clinic and don't know what I was actually demonstrating and talking about when this shot was taken.

That picture was actually taken as I was explaining how careful you have to be with the fins if trying to self-rescue with the board. I then explained how to avoid cutting your kite with the fins while using the board as a rudder, as detailed in this short sample from my full self-rescue video.



This does take experience and I do not recommend learning to self-rescue with a board for the first few times.

The bottom line is people need to practice self-rescue as it is a very poorly taught skill by the majority of schools/instructors and therefore the most poorly mastered basic beginner skill.

Christian

eppo
WA, 9505 posts
17 Oct 2017 12:09PM
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So you weren't trying to make a 5m baby then...

cauncy
WA, 8407 posts
17 Oct 2017 9:20PM
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cbulota said..

cauncy said..




Fly on da wall said..
Great picture, great stance for self rescue. Hope some people learn this basic skill, it could really save you and your kite.






Not really I'd reckomend not having board near kite
1 klm out getting pushed up and down with swell or chop fin slices leading edge, oh f... why did I buy a single strut kite
I prefer to use the tip straps as holding onto a bridal as I found once isn't that great when the winds cranking and gusting over the swell
soon f.... up your hands
1 klm out would be a 3/4 klm self rescue





It's a good point, but don't be too quick to judge as you weren't at the clinic and don't know what I was actually demonstrating and talking about when this shot was taken.

That picture was actually taken as I was explaining how careful you have to be with the fins if trying to self-rescue with the board. I then explained how to avoid cutting your kite with the fins while using the board as a rudder, as detailed in this short sample from my full self-rescue video.



This does take experience and I do not recommend learning to self-rescue with a board for the first few times.

The bottom line is people need to practice self-rescue as it is a very poorly taught skill by the majority of schools/instructors and therefore the most poorly mastered basic beginner skill.

Christian


Wasn't being quick, I spotted that soon as I witnessed it, I'm 400 klms away so difficult for me to be there, just thought I'd mention it as it's certainly an issue, ive witnessed twin tips slicing leading edges whilst guys have been walking from our pump up spot to launch spot, also when weighing down kites on the beach with boards, so if your in the water and you take your photo as a reference , you'll likely burst your kite and possible lifeline , also the video shows your lines not packed down and trailing in water , this also imho is not a very wise procedure , I've lost 2 mates through line wrapping issues, I'm not getting at you , I'm aware you make valuable contributions on safety, but sometime people take what they see
cheers mick

NorthernKitesAUS
QLD, 1071 posts
18 Oct 2017 9:23AM
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For the record, I think Christian is the ONLY kite instructor on here, that cares more about safety than anyone I've known. And best of all, teaches what he preaches. In my book that is gold and should be commended and encouraged.
I too teach the self-rescue out on water, deep water, and every student I've had that has had lessons elsewhere thanked me for having shown them the reality of what can go wrong. Thanks to Christian for that btw. Well done Christian.

Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
18 Oct 2017 11:23AM
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Fully agree. Chris is a real asset and I have learned so much from him and I have become a better (as in safer) kiter for it!
Love your work mate!

jms
NSW, 131 posts
18 Oct 2017 11:39AM
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Yup, at his suggestion I now self launch unhooked. Pretty sketchy feeling the first couple of times while I got used to it, but now it is SO MUCH SAFER. Good on ya.

Shark Biscuit
NSW, 341 posts
18 Oct 2017 12:03PM
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Yup, at his suggestion I now self launch unhooked. Pretty sketchy feeling the first couple of times while I got used to it, but now it is SO MUCH SAFER. Good on ya.


That's interesting. I bought Chris' self launch video but don't recollect that method being demonstrated. Chris can you elaborate pls (or make a video)?

KiteBud
WA, 1543 posts
18 Oct 2017 10:00AM
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Kajo said..



jms said..
Yup, at his suggestion I now self launch unhooked. Pretty sketchy feeling the first couple of times while I got used to it, but now it is SO MUCH SAFER. Good on ya.





That's interesting. I bought Chris' self launch video but don't recollect that method being demonstrated. Chris can you elaborate pls (or make a video)?




Hi Kajo, thanks for the great feed-back. The method of self-launching unhooked is briefly explained and demonstrated at the end of the self-launch video that you bought just after the 6:15 mark.





Another safe alternative method when self-launching hooked-in in strong winds is to keep one hand on the quick release while the kite gets in launching position this way you can quickly activate the release at the first sign of problems.

As with most of my videos the key to success is to pay close attention to every single detail.

Christian

Kraut
WA, 542 posts
18 Oct 2017 10:27AM
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Not trying to criticise as I love your work too. Just making sure that everyone understands that "unhooked" in this context means hooked out while safety leash is directly connected to flag out line, i.e.not using suicide mode. I know you argue that such mode is usually not used by beginners anyway. True most of the times. But some people start using suicide pretty early in their kting "career" simply because when accidental unhooking happens, they can avoid that the kite completely flags out and falls onto the water. When in suicide, they can either rescue the kite while still in the air, or easily relaunch as it will sit at the edge of the wind window waiting for them. This can be handy in big swell or in extremely light wind, and not everyone using suicide is a wakestyle handle pass guru. Any thoughts?

I agree that self launching, if not tether launching, is safest done by means of holding the chicken loop i.e .hooked out, wait until there is tension on the lines, observe all lines are ok and free from branches etc, then hook in and launch the kite. Or, if confident, and launching hooked in, have a hand at the top of the chicken loop / on the safety so that if in trouble safety can be pulled instantly. Also, it is a good idea to support the chicken loop anyway with any form of launching in order to avoid accidental unhooking while launching. While not necessarily dangerous, it is annoying and I have seen some kites ending up in bushes, fences, other kites etc.



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