I don’t know about you guys but after 5 weeks of no Kitesurfing with the winds gone to crap and the temps a bit cool , I got stir crazy AAAHHHHH and started to annoy the hell out of the wife, so last week I decided I needed to do something and thought – what the hell I’ll jump off the side of a cliff...
I gave Paragliding a try, started the course on the weekend and got my first solo jump in. I reckon it’s an excellent sport to alternate with kitesurfing as we were paragliding in about 10’ish knots so my thoughts are to paraglide in the kitesurfing off season or the days when there’s light winds during the on season.
It’s obviously a totally different feeling gliding through the air than kiting through the water but the way the glider is controlled and the feel is similar to a kite. Before somebody tells me “this is a kitesurfing forum not a paragliding forum” I’m only saying- if the wind is too low to kitesurf and your starting to piss your partner off paragliding might be a good alternative...
Awesome, thought about this myself, only I saw too many videos online of the wing tip folding and sending pilot into a death spin/fall. If I was gonna go for it Id give hang gliding a shot, stay safe
Hey Olly, I was actually going to do Hang Gliding but after talking to a mate that has done it his advice was to do Paragliding mainly because of the transport convenience. The paraglider bag is no bigger than a kite bag so you can easily bush walk it to the top of a hill, set it up and jump. Apparently a hang glider is to heavy and bulky to carry it easily. I say apparently because I have never even laid eyes on a hang glider it’s only what I’ve been told... Kemp, yep Wreck Rock, Yeppoon...
I like your theory, except that you have picked an alternate sport that is also completely at the mercy of the weather. Your a sucker for punishment. I like the idea of paragliding too, but one weather dependent passion is enough frustration for me. My alternate sport (mtb)can be done in hot/cold/wet /dry/light /dark conditions or when ever I please. IMO that is the perfect counterpart of a weather dependent passtime.
Awesome, thought about this myself, only I saw too many videos online of the wing tip folding and sending pilot into a death spin/fall. If I was gonna go for it Id give hang gliding a shot, stay safe
Not sure - but pretty sure - the injury stats would put para-gliding way ahead of hang-gliding.
ie imo in favour of the para-gliders - experienced persons eg Ian Young may like to clarify on this one?
Hey Olly, I was actually going to do Hang Gliding but after talking to a mate that has done it his advice was to do Paragliding mainly because of the transport convenience. The paraglider bag is no bigger than a kite bag so you can easily bush walk it to the top of a hill, set it up and jump. Apparently a hang glider is to heavy and bulky to carry it easily. I say apparently because I have never even laid eyes on a hang glider it?s only what I?ve been told... Kemp, yep Wreck Rock, Yepoon...
Yor are pretty much spot on here.
Even with very light hang gliders they are just not as convenient as paragliders as far as hiking up a hill and jumping off goes. Hang gliders require some assembly even when only partially packed down.
There are other factors that come into consideration when making the choice between the two. I've flown both and actually prefer hang gliders to paragliders but if it just comes down to convenience then paragliders win hands down.
Obviously others may disagree.
I have licenses for both but prefer hang gliding - no canopy collapses, more wind range and I have "the need for speed" :-)
PG are definitely more convenient and there are many sites where you can only fly PG but for me it's all about the flying.
I was looking into this here a few years ago after going tandem paraglide off the side of a volcano near Lake Atitlan, Guatemala. Which was awesome, but I reckon I would be too scared of getting blown back into the side of the cliff/hill if I did it solo.
I think if I was going to go down the path, i'd get a paramotor. Its like paragliding but you have a backpack with a motor and a giant fan pointing backwards, and you take off from ground level ie: The beach. Or theres also ones where you sit in a buggy.
Trouble is I live in the middle of Sydney. I have NFI where I would be allowed to use the thing, but I bet its a long way away.
The guys around my house paraglide with fans strapped to their backs, looks like an awesome way to do some sight seeing!
How often do the courses run here? I'm planning on doing one in the next 3 weeks
Kiter the course I’m doing is 8 days at Yeppoon May – August and the rest of the year it’s at Rainbow beach. The $’s are paid as you go @ $250 1st day and $220 each for the rest. I’m spreading the lessons over a few months so they coincide with my rostered blocks off – so it’s all pretty flexibly. There is a bit of aviation theory involved but that’s ok, it’ll get the brain working again and maybe hold off the onset of alzheimer’s www.paraglidingrainbow.com/
The hang glider vs paraglider discussion is almost exactly the same as windsurfer vs kitesurfer.
Hang gliders are superior aircraft, but the practical advantages of paragliders means you end up doing vastly more flying and often end up having much better quality flying.
Be very careful about considering paramotoring. It's not as easy as it looks. The weather window is very close to that of a paraglider, and there are all sorts of restrictions about where you can, and cannot fly. You can't just set up at the local football ground and go for a fly. If you live in the country and you have some acres then you can launch and land off that, but you need to make sure your flight path does not bother the local residents.
I would also like to paraglide one day. but maybe not until the kids have left home..... another 10-12 years!... infact paramotoring and speedflying also appeal.
I also agree with Bennie. Non weather dependant sports are also a must. I too indulge in mountain biking.
I have a buddy who paraglides and kitesurfs and his exact comment was " Theres a lot of Para waiting or para travelling to get to the ideal spots"
Personally I can't waste time on sports that don't give bang for buck time wise at the moment. I have way too many kids activities I have to try and work around to go and parawait to not fly.
At least with kiting i can check the live weather station see the wind speed and direction and its all on or not. No travelling and waiting and not flying.
The hang glider vs paraglider discussion is almost exactly the same as windsurfer vs kitesurfer.
Hang gliders are superior aircraft, but the practical advantages of paragliders means you end up doing vastly more flying and often end up having much better quality flying.
Be very careful about considering paramotoring. It's not as easy as it looks. The weather window is very close to that of a paraglider, and there are all sorts of restrictions about where you can, and cannot fly. You can't just set up at the local football ground and go for a fly. If you live in the country and you have some acres then you can launch and land off that, but you need to make sure your flight path does not bother the local residents.
Gorgo you’d have to say kitesurfing is a more superior sport than windsurfing wouldn’t you?? Most of the comments I read on this forum reckon the poley’s are jealous of us kiters or have I misread the threads
What sort of $ are you looking at to get set up? Not sure I can afford another sport.....
ianyoung you might be better answering this one... obviously it ranges but I think a decent new kit is around the 4k mark but the positive is there’s less or no need for a quiver of gliders. I also believe they have a longer life expectancy than kites but hey don’t take anything I say as gospel, I’m a newbie and that’s even overselling myself... you can check out some prices on the link I posted earlier...
Looks like a fun way to get flying, anyone know if there is a school between rocky and cairns
I've looked into this and I think Yeppoon is the closest . He also offers a paramotor endorsement after you do the paragliding license .
I flew hang gliders for many years and even tried para gliding, both really good fun! This video shows that a para glider could be used for kite surfing, BUT don't drop it in the water!!
The hang glider vs paraglider discussion is almost exactly the same as windsurfer vs kitesurfer.
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See what I mean ...
Parragliders are the SUP board of the sky...... Gay Gondola's!
Friends dont let friends Parraglide!
Here's me on my Gay Gondola
That's bloody awesome gorgo! Looks like you would have been getting some good thermals off those mountains. Where is that - Italian alps? Rocky's? And whats with the beeping - is that a stall warning alarm or something else?
My biggest fear I reckon would be stalling and having the wing fold up and me dropping like a stone. Stalling on a hang glider with lack of height would be just as deadly too..
Here's me on my Gay Gondola
Gorgo that looks cool in more ways than one! I went snooping in “your gallery” to check if you had any others stashed away and watched the ACRO/ Adidas video – that is absolutely insane
That's bloody awesome gorgo! Looks like you would have been getting some good thermals off those mountains. Where is that - Italian alps? Rocky's? And whats with the beeping - is that a stall warning alarm or something else?
My biggest fear I reckon would be stalling and having the wing fold up and me dropping like a stone. Stalling on a hang glider with lack of height would be just as deadly too..
The mountains are the Dhauladars, which is one end of the Himalayan range. The place is called Bir. Hang gliders discovered it, but paragliders have truly exploited it. The portability of the gliders means you can take off. Fly somewhere. Land and spend the night at a hotel, or camp. Walk to a launch site and take off the next day.
The beeping is an instrument called a vario. It tells you whether you are going up or down, and how fast. Beep, beep, beep is good (going up). Boop, boop, boop is bad (going down). Bipbipbipbipbipbipbipbipbipbip!!!!! is scary, but good (going up like a rocket). Booooooooooop! is scary (going down fast), but can also be good if you want to get down fast.
Stalling is easily avoided, and not compulsory.
Frontal collapses can be a bit scary and are relatively easily controlled.
Tip collapses are designed into the wings and are a good thing. It allows the wing to "shrug off" turbulence. If the wing were too solid it would resist collapsing, but could collapse catastrophically when it finally did go.
BTW that video is "cool". We were at 5200m and it was -15C.
More BTW. I am just a weekend paraglider pilot. That video is shot on a tour I go on each year. There are far more brave and far more extreme pilots than me.
PS. You can have a "quiver" of paragliders. It is not unusual for people to have a full size glider for general flying and cross country flights, and a "mini-wing". A smaller glider (usually lighter than a full-size one) for stronger winds, or for walking up hills and flying down.
Paragliding can mesh well with kitesurfing, but they can also get in the way of each other. In Melbourne you get light winds in the south end of the bay, and strong winds in the north. In that context you have to choose one or the other. I have managed to fly early then kite late but it is a bit of a rush to get it all in.
On the coast it is possible to fly early in the day at the start of a sea breeze, then kite in the afternoon when the sea breeze pushes in stronger.
A large kite and a raceboard can get going in similar winds to a paraglider so it can often be easier to do that instead of lugging a paraglider around.
Great video Corgo you've inspired me, I've booked in for a 8 day course in Yeppon from 12th July. Hopefully there wont be to much wind ,,, for a change
Hey Paragliding guys: Can you by chance recommend any travel insurance companies which cover Paragliding as an activity?