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Perth vs Any Other City

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Created by wishy > 9 months ago, 29 Apr 2013
dbabicwa
WA, 808 posts
29 Apr 2013 10:03PM
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^^^
You did well! Wishy wishing you all the best! Hope my link entertained you:)

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
29 Apr 2013 10:03PM
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You don't even drink wine do you.

coldshot
WA, 218 posts
29 Apr 2013 10:17PM
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What's going to happen to Perth when this mining boom dies in the arse in 2015?

For one the wind isn't going to die!

eppo
WA, 9527 posts
30 Apr 2013 6:34AM
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2015 really? Can you make it earlier so all the economic refugees can go home!

LostDog
WA, 445 posts
30 Apr 2013 7:17AM
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wishy said...
I would like to officially thank everyone for their participation in my absolute pot stir. You have thoroughly entertained my entire office, and kiting friends in various cities around Australia. Peace.


This office?


Chris_M
2129 posts
30 Apr 2013 7:59AM
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Oh you poor buggers!

After travelling around a fair bit, have settled in a place that is affordable (bought my first house, sub 450,000 - 3 bed, primo sea view, big property, great beach 2 mins walk away)

Awesome range of kite spots on every wind except W

One of the worlds best left hand surf breaks within 2.5 hr drive, as well as a range of beachies and river mouths within 30mins

Really great SUPing beach (estuary mouth with 150m long sand bar)

Only one fatal shark attack in the last 10 years

No poisonous spiders, no snakes

Great climate

Beer sold in 12 packs, usually for less than $20 (including craft beers)

Almost zero crime



Would tell ya where it is, but...........




Leroy B
WA, 139 posts
30 Apr 2013 10:16AM
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^^^^^^WOW....there's always a bigger ba$&ard around each corner!

Well Done, nice spot!

alverstone
WA, 532 posts
30 Apr 2013 11:58AM
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tightlines said...
This seems like an appropriate thread to post this in.




Love it. I've given up looking for a 1-bed flat at $300,000. Got outbid twice by some faceless 'investor' who probably drives a Range Rover Sport, or a fat bloke sitting in a cafe on his Eyepud using the Interweb to shout 'buy, buy!'. Stonking northwesterlies for the next two days, though. Plenty of time to forget about it all....

Kitehard
WA, 2782 posts
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30 Apr 2013 12:33PM
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Hey,

I've been in Perth for 10 years, formerly a Southern Sydney boy (loved it there). But I'd never go back. I like Sydney as a place to visit and holiday, but wouldn't ever live there again.

The congestion, pace and impersonality of the place is insane! Ethnic non-integration problems, traffic, and having to "drive forever to get away from it all".

On the flip side, amazing restaurants, cheap food, great clubs, RSL & Tradies clubs etc with subsidized drinks and food prices. You just can't go anywhere to get away from all the people.

Perth house prices just caught up to the rest of the country. I sold my little 2 bedroom cottage in Sydney and paid for a 4 bedroom brick place with a pool in '04 in a half decent suburb.

Perth is awesome if you don't try and impose your eastern state, big city ideas and expectations on it. Instead, try and blend in with what WA has to offer and it's a regular Shangri La IMHO. There is still so much freedom here. It aint for everyone, I'll grant you that, and stoked it ain't, it's already too crowded.

I started surfing here, Freedive Spearing, 4WDing, outback camping and started a business just 10 minutes from home. I drove 1.5hrs each way to my former Sydney employment.

Perth reminded me of Sydney in the 70's and early 80's. A great place to grow up as a kid. There is so much opportunity here in WA if you are prepared to get off your arse and work at it. Just don't expect it to be like everywhere else. Thank god it isn't.

Perth is my home and always will be. I'll be buried here. Love it!

DM

tgladman
WA, 500 posts
30 Apr 2013 9:28PM
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Kitehard said...
Hey,

I've been in Perth for 10 years, formerly a Southern Sydney boy (loved it there). But I'd never go back. I like Sydney as a place to visit and holiday, but wouldn't ever live there again.

The congestion, pace and impersonality of the place is insane! Ethnic non-integration problems, traffic, and having to "drive forever to get away from it all".

On the flip side, amazing restaurants, cheap food, great clubs, RSL & Tradies clubs etc with subsidized drinks and food prices. You just can't go anywhere to get away from all the people.

Perth house prices just caught up to the rest of the country. I sold my little 2 bedroom cottage in Sydney and paid for a 4 bedroom brick place with a pool in '04 in a half decent suburb.

Perth is awesome if you don't try and impose your eastern state, big city ideas and expectations on it. Instead, try and blend in with what WA has to offer and it's a regular Shangri La IMHO. There is still so much freedom here. It aint for everyone, I'll grant you that, and stoked it ain't, it's already too crowded.

I started surfing here, Freedive Spearing, 4WDing, outback camping and started a business just 10 minutes from home. I drove 1.5hrs each way to my former Sydney employment.

Perth reminded me of Sydney in the 70's and early 80's. A great place to grow up as a kid. There is so much opportunity here in WA if you are prepared to get off your arse and work at it. Just don't expect it to be like everywhere else. Thank god it isn't.

Perth is my home and always will be. I'll be buried here. Love it!

DM

Bravo good sir, bravo.
Home isn't the place you were born (qld for me)
It is the place you are willing to die.

birdie919
WA, 82 posts
30 Apr 2013 10:54PM
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What the hell is wrong with telling it like it is. Why do shops cafes pubs etc rip us off....simple because they can.FFS small city miles from anywhere these douchebags have got it all worked out. It aint rocket science. I have a photo on my phone of a cualiflower in IGA for $7:49 !!!! sad i know. But the point is this place is full of knobs like dusta " nagggh dont like it leave naggggh !!!"No one complains,protests or just tells matey boy whos just poured a pint and wants to charge you $12 to feckin shove it !!!
And the rest of it ... Well its beutifull and i love it, best city beaches in the world ( belive me i know ).Proper get away from it bush (admitely you do have to drive a lot more than 3 hours and Esperance. Could just do with a decent mountin range and some better climbing.
But i am 50 and glad i spent my 20's living in the most exciting city in the world. (err....not Perth!)

dusta
WA, 2940 posts
30 Apr 2013 11:09PM
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birdie919 said...
What the hell is wrong with telling it like it is. Why do shops cafes pubs etc rip us off....simple because they can.FFS small city miles from anywhere these douchebags have got it all worked out. It aint rocket science. I have a photo on my phone of a cualiflower in IGA for $7:49 !!!! sad i know. But the point is this place is full of knobs like dusta " nagggh dont like it leave naggggh !!!"No one complains,protests or just tells matey boy whos just poured a pint and wants to charge you $12 to feckin shove it !!!
And the rest of it ... Well its beutifull and i love it, best city beaches in the world ( belive me i know ).Proper get away from it bush (admitely you do have to drive a lot more than 3 hours and Esperance. Could just do with a decent mountin range and some better climbing.
But i am 50 and glad i spent my 20's living in the most exciting city in the world. (err....not Perth!)


woah there old man , steady on . $7.49 for a cauliflower STRUTH MATE . grow some in your backyard . I'm sure even an old man like yourself could grow one of the easiest vegies to grow . Don't want to pay $12 a pint ? then don't f$cking buy it , Pretty simple . Brew your own .


You know birdie you as well could f^ck off to some retirement home on the gold coast or spain or somewhere else so you can bitch with all the other pensioners about how much better everywhere else is than perth :)

Mask
WA, 293 posts
1 May 2013 7:34AM
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wishy said...
I would like to officially thank everyone for their participation in my absolute pot stir. You have thoroughly entertained my entire office, and kiting friends in various cities around Australia. Peace.


This happens so often on SB that we should find an appropriate name fot it.
Someone makes a compete knob of himself, realizes it later, and then tries to turn it all around by claiming pot stir or some other ****e.

Anyone got any suggestions?

kkiter
NSW, 452 posts
1 May 2013 10:03AM
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This is hilarious. You lot bag all the other states/cities all the time. No one gives a rats. Most probably agree with you in part. But bag Perth/WA and watch the hissy fits start. Get over it girls!

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
1 May 2013 8:25AM
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kkiter said...
This is hilarious. You lot bag all the other states/cities all the time. No one gives a rats. Most probably agree with you in part. But bag Perth/WA and watch the hissy fits start. Get over it girls!



It's a very similar extreme insecurity (shoulder chip) that comes out roaring when you tell someone that boogeyboarding is crap, or SUPing............

wishy
WA, 1501 posts
1 May 2013 8:39AM
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bene313 said...
.......Geez all that time spent living in the lavish suburb of Cottesloe! La dee da! Not everyone can be so fancy.



Cottesloe is not lavish, it is a year round weed covered beach with rocky limestone outcrops and no swell. There is one good restaurant there and two overpriced pubs that have a view and sh!t food. The only reason I moved to the most expensive suburb is because I was sick of seeing people fighting with trolley poles and hitting each other in the face with bricks on monday nights everywhere else.

eppo
WA, 9527 posts
1 May 2013 8:54AM
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Yeh western Sydney that's where I'm thinking about moving. Anyone been there and can let us know the good spots?

dbabicwa
WA, 808 posts
1 May 2013 10:15AM
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Kitehard said...
I drove 1.5hrs each way to my former Sydney employment.



Me to. In Perth. 12 years ago. Some still do.

For sure Perth is my home, that's why I live here. The same reason I do not like Syd or Mel.

However, what I've been reading here is camping, more camping and 4x4. Where do you camp in Perth? Kings Park? 4x4 on the Terrace?


How about we finally make something BIG! And not another hole in a dirt:(

So half of the world can say: "I gotta to see this!"

Would that make you and me more proud? I bet it would. Since there is really nothing to see here, nothing to be a proud of really. What? Weather?

And we do not need to look at any other states. Why would we?

That is how I see it.

BTW Museum's in Kal are excellent. Swimming in Kalbarri gorge insane. Broome Japanese cemetery is phenomenal. Monkey Mia dolphins unbelievable. Exmouth kitesurfing once in a lifetime. Flying gliders in York is fascinating. Fighter flight in GinGin mind blowing. Diving overseas (Rotto) is amazing. Rock fishing in Albany too. Deep sea fishing great. Sailing the Swan river fantastic. "Hanging" in Freo prison spectacular. Aqwa really impressive.

Perth? We talking Perth, right? Is the Subject: "Perth vs Any Other City"?

And kids. I'm not going into this...

Oh, I've watched 5 hrs TV yesterday. Melbourne Comedy 2013. Great.

Fire on:)

jev7337
QLD, 460 posts
1 May 2013 1:21PM
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eppo said...
Yeh western Sydney that's where I'm thinking about moving. Anyone been there and can let us know the good spots?


From Perth to Western Sydney? Why?
Parramatta cable park will be your best bet if you don't want to get stuck in traffic for half the day. There is f-all wind in Sydney anyway. Cool beaches though and alright surf.

eppo
WA, 9527 posts
1 May 2013 11:45AM
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You missed my point all together. Sure Perth has some bad areas with some bad stuff going on but most of it child games compared to that part of the Australia. Then again I do feel Perth in places has a violent vibe that a lot of my eastern stater friends seem to notice.

Make good wherever you are.

The internal experience is far more important than the external. Look for external inputs to make you happy you'll be searching and not at peace until the day you die, which by the way is relatively soon for all of us.

As Buddha said find death before it finds you.

jev7337
QLD, 460 posts
1 May 2013 2:12PM
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I did get it, i'm just jumping on the bandwagon and having a go at western Sydney.
Having said that, western Sydney is big and has heaps of ok suburbs. While it's not the nicest part the town there are some areas of Sydney that are worse than most areas in west Sydney IMO.

But back to Perth, so you guys got the best wind in summer, awesome beaches and the climate is great. You can make way more then a 100k a year without having finished school. That sounds half way decent to me.
The cultural and entertainment aspect is something a city develops over time, and it's largely driven by the people who are interested in it and supporting it. These sort of changes take a long time and depend on the demographic.


eppo
WA, 9527 posts
1 May 2013 4:06PM
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True but you don't have to be an economist to see how unsustainable it is to keep digging holes in the ground. While farmers are leaving the land in droves the government is pumping money into keeping this 19th century preoccupation (of mining) in full swing while smart industries and their participants leave the shores of Australia. And I don't mean unsustainable is some green big the tree hippy perspective, I mean we need to develop smarter industries NOW. we can't keep being the quarry of the world and paying unschooled bogan morons 100k plus a year, because these jobs won't be there in the very near future. We need innovation in all areas ( including mining of course) but the focus needs to have some vision of a future world where resources will be sourced easily and more cheaper from other places in the world.

We are becoming one big ass quarry, with a small percentage of cashed up idiots running around spending their money in oligopoly based shopping centres, purchasing goods made by smarter industries in other countries, while the rest of us struggle to pay for the inflationary necessities to survive. Its a sad state of affairs when only the very wealthy prosper at the expense of our kids future ( this the very basis of our so called need to keep increasing the population of Australia).

You can't eat flat screen TVs! You can drink laptop computers.

Perth is the epicentre of this absurd state of living.

default
WA, 1255 posts
1 May 2013 4:33PM
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eppo said...
You can drink laptop computers.


you can?

jev7337
QLD, 460 posts
1 May 2013 10:33PM
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eppo said...
True but you don't have to be an economist to see how unsustainable it is to keep digging holes in the ground. While farmers are leaving the land in droves the government is pumping money into keeping this 19th century preoccupation (of mining) in full swing while smart industries and their participants leave the shores of Australia. And I don't mean unsustainable is some green big the tree hippy perspective, I mean we need to develop smarter industries NOW. we can't keep being the quarry of the world and paying unschooled bogan morons 100k plus a year, because these jobs won't be there in the very near future. We need innovation in all areas ( including mining of course) but the focus needs to have some vision of a future world where resources will be sourced easily and more cheaper from other places in the world.

We are becoming one big ass quarry, with a small percentage of cashed up idiots running around spending their money in oligopoly based shopping centres, purchasing goods made by smarter industries in other countries, while the rest of us struggle to pay for the inflationary necessities to survive. Its a sad state of affairs when only the very wealthy prosper at the expense of our kids future ( this the very basis of our so called need to keep increasing the population of Australia).

You can't eat flat screen TVs! You can drink laptop computers.

Perth is the epicentre of this absurd state of living.


Spot on and a sad reality.

eppo
WA, 9527 posts
1 May 2013 8:55PM
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default said...
eppo said...
You can drink laptop computers.


you can?




ahh damn I was on my soap box and farqed up the last sentence, typical. LOL. Well spotted! LOL

Dave Whettingsteel
WA, 1397 posts
2 May 2013 9:51AM
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Sorry guys, but mining is not going to go away any time soon. For example BHPB Iron Ore current tenements have over 200 years of life IF we hit max production rates of 450 Mega tons per year. Around 500 years at current production level. And that is without finding new reserves.

This is a very long term deal.

loose
WA, 18 posts
2 May 2013 10:01AM
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wishy - you forgot to say where you are from

part 2?

dbabicwa
WA, 808 posts
2 May 2013 10:47AM
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Dave Whettingsteel said...
Sorry guys, but mining is not going to go away any time soon. For example BHPB Iron Ore current tenements have over 200 years of life IF we hit max production rates of 450 Mega tons per year. Around 500 years at current production level. And that is without finding new reserves.

This is a very long term deal.


That is based on a demand, right? :)

While Detroit in the US went from a giant to the ghost city in just about 30 years, I guess some people never ever dreamed of this possibility.

The point is, cut the demand and bang. Like Eppo said, you can't eat iron ore.

default
WA, 1255 posts
2 May 2013 12:14PM
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dbabicwa said...
Dave Whettingsteel said...
Sorry guys, but mining is not going to go away any time soon. For example BHPB Iron Ore current tenements have over 200 years of life IF we hit max production rates of 450 Mega tons per year. Around 500 years at current production level. And that is without finding new reserves.

This is a very long term deal.


That is based on a demand, right? :)

While Detroit in the US went from a giant to the ghost city in just about 30 years, I guess some people never ever dreamed of this possibility.

The point is, cut the demand and bang. Like Eppo said, you can't eat iron ore.


what? so there is going to be no future demand for steel? No building, no new infrastructure?.. in the entire world.

Wow better start buying up real estate

juicerider
WA, 790 posts
2 May 2013 12:30PM
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default said...
dbabicwa said...
Dave Whettingsteel said...
Sorry guys, but mining is not going to go away any time soon. For example BHPB Iron Ore current tenements have over 200 years of life IF we hit max production rates of 450 Mega tons per year. Around 500 years at current production level. And that is without finding new reserves.

This is a very long term deal.


That is based on a demand, right? :)

While Detroit in the US went from a giant to the ghost city in just about 30 years, I guess some people never ever dreamed of this possibility.

The point is, cut the demand and bang. Like Eppo said, you can't eat iron ore.


what? so there is going to be no future demand for steel? No building, no new infrastructure?.. in the entire world.

Wow better start buying up real estate


That is right, the huge demand for Iron ore is not going to go away soon. The biggest exporter is China and until they finish expanding the demand will not drop. Also there is much more to WA resources than Iron ore. There is Gold, Nickel, cobalt, diamonds, Uranium and the biggest project going on at the moment is the construction of the Gorgon project, and that is Natural Gas, so there will always be a demand for this.



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