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Southern Lombok

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Created by Surfer62 > 9 months ago, 2 Mar 2015
Surfer62
1357 posts
2 Mar 2015 5:49PM
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Heading to the south of Lombok in August this year, looking for accommodation on/near beach, not too fussy, basic accommodation ok, any recommendations ?


djt91184
QLD, 1211 posts
2 Mar 2015 8:06PM
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Kuta lombok has accom ranging from a couple dollars a night right up to a novotel big bucks. I never booked anywhere before I arrived, its very low key area but still with plenty of accommodation options. Sick waves in the area, bay after bay if you go east right up to Ekas Bay if you go west right up to desert point. Same trade winds as Bali. Awesome scenery another world compared to Bali. International airport now close to kuta lombok, used to have to commute from Mataram the capital. Wicked island more fun than Bali (unless you want to carry on on the sauce).

tinker
8 posts
2 Mar 2015 10:22PM
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Great place I stayed at http://www.relaxinghomestaykutalombok.com/ www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-8.88869/116.28614 was about 20 dollars a night with aircon which was not really needed. That accommodation was not much different than the novatel at 200 a night. The going rate for non aircon is about 10 dollars a night, but it all depends when you come, with prices being lower or higher depending on demand, the locals will always try to double the price. About 80% of the accommodation you won't find till you rock up. Most of the stuff easily found on tripadvisor and booking places is well over rated and over priced. I would be careful to stay in the east end of town or out of the village as every day at a certain time they fill the air with burnt trash, which is a common occurrence in indo. The trades will blow it to the west and it's horrible. Also don't stay near any mosques especially if youre going during Ramadan which I would advise against.

Wind is generally stronger than bali. The waves off kuta are some of the biggest on the island and about 1.5ks from shore, I would exercise some caution and maybe use some type of floation vest if you plan on kiting it alone.

There is a great almost untouched beach here www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-8.9018/116.2042, seemed quite safe to kite when I did, but the locals warned me of strong currents which there was. The reefs off www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-8.8698/116.1322 looked like prime kiting waves, but unfortunately my guide refused to take me because of recent crime sprees.

osmand.net/ is a great app to have on your phone for offline maps. I strongly recommend respecting the locals ,watch where and when you go places. One of the guys I was staying next too was held up by guys with machine guns and an aussies got stabbed to death in a mugging. The area is rife with hire you a scooter and steal it off you later then death threat you for 1000 or more. Despite that and more... it is a really nice place and well worth going.

bene313
WA, 1347 posts
3 Mar 2015 10:26AM
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tinker said..
That accommodation was not much different than the novatel at 200 a night.


Ummm have you actually stayed at the Novatel? It's a 4 star resort buddy with private beach, gym, cocktail bar, dining options, pool etc! Certainly the best option if you are taking your family.

djt91184
QLD, 1211 posts
3 Mar 2015 12:43PM
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Yep the novotel is very flash. Its location is second to none on its own secluded beach with a sweet skatepark type peak setup just over the hill.

tinker
8 posts
3 Mar 2015 1:58PM
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Not that Novotel but stayed in 4 others, 3 in Indo, I have been inside the lombok one when friends have stayed there. Certainly it is better than the surrounding accommodation, you would just be surprised that it is not that much better. The "private beach" is not that great because of the stupid sand they trucked in and the water is dirtier near kuta. I think if you go to Lombok to stay inside a resort, work out in the gym etc, you have really missed some really great beaches, food and locations on offer. I meet quite a few indos from Jakarata and elsewhere on holiday staying at the novotel, they had the same opinions about it as me. The Locals dont generally like it aswell because the tourist stay locked up inside. Recently the Locals destroyed a whole heap of warungs etc right on the beach in kuta because they were stopping others using the beach. As an Australian I have to agree with them, beaches should not be private.

djt91184
QLD, 1211 posts
3 Mar 2015 5:00PM
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Not that Novotel but stayed in 4 others, 3 in Indo, I have been inside the lombok one when friends have stayed there. Certainly it is better than the surrounding accommodation, you would just be surprised that it is not that much better. The "private beach" is not that great because of the stupid sand they trucked in and the water is dirtier near kuta. I think if you go to Lombok to stay inside a resort, work out in the gym etc, you have really missed some really great beaches, food and locations on offer. I meet quite a few indos from Jakarata and elsewhere on holiday staying at the novotel, they had the same opinions about it as me. The Locals dont generally like it aswell because the tourist stay locked up inside. Recently the Locals destroyed a whole heap of warungs etc right on the beach in kuta because they were stopping others using the beach. As an Australian I have to agree with them, beaches should not be private.


Absolutley boss the many time I have been to kuta lombok I have never stayed there, I did eat the buffet breakfast on acouple of occasions for about 5 dollar. Most the places I stayed had the old bucket to flush the toilet. But I was doing 6 month stints with no woman or kids in my ear.

beebee
151 posts
3 Mar 2015 3:20PM
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tinker said..
Great place I stayed at http://www.relaxinghomestaykutalombok.com/ www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/-8.88869/116.28614 was about 20 dollars a night with aircon which was not really needed. That accommodation was not much different than the novatel at 200 a night. The going rate for non aircon is about 10 dollars a night, but it all depends when you come, with prices being lower or higher depending on demand, the locals will always try to double the price. About 80% of the accommodation you won't find till you rock up. Most of the stuff easily found on tripadvisor and booking places is well over rated and over priced. I would be careful to stay in the east end of town or out of the village as every day at a certain time they fill the air with burnt trash, which is a common occurrence in indo. The trades will blow it to the west and it's horrible. Also don't stay near any mosques especially if youre going during Ramadan which I would advise against.

Wind is generally stronger than bali. The waves off kuta are some of the biggest on the island and about 1.5ks from shore, I would exercise some caution and maybe use some type of floation vest if you plan on kiting it alone.

There is a great almost untouched beach here www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-8.9018/116.2042, seemed quite safe to kite when I did, but the locals warned me of strong currents which there was. The reefs off www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/-8.8698/116.1322 looked like prime kiting waves, but unfortunately my guide refused to take me because of recent crime sprees.

osmand.net/ is a great app to have on your phone for offline maps. I strongly recommend respecting the locals ,watch where and when you go places. One of the guys I was staying next too was held up by guys with machine guns and an aussies got stabbed to death in a mugging. The area is rife with hire you a scooter and steal it off you later then death threat you for 1000 or more. Despite that and more... it is a really nice place and well worth going.


Yup, be really careful. A lot of crime on Lombok. I had money stolen from inside my locked room. Probably an inside job. I rode a motorbike around most of the island alone. I guess I was lucky. Heard of some people getting muggged outside of Kuta on their bikes. And yeah, the rent/steal/threat/shakedown thing does happen.
Ask around a lot for a good rental place.

Not trying to put you off, it's a beautiful island for the most part, but the locals are very different from the Balinese.
There are some great locals - like everywhere. Just need to be pretty alert - like most places.


djt91184
QLD, 1211 posts
3 Mar 2015 5:28PM
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I must have got lucky everytime I was there. After spending months in Java and Sumatra, I allways thought lombok was the friendliest place on earth.

tinker
8 posts
3 Mar 2015 8:40PM
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There is crime all over indo, Bali and Lombok try very hard to hide it all. Locals will hardly every tell you what happens to tourists, but they will tell what happens to themselves and friends which is just as bad if not worse:-/ The owner of the place I stayed at actually owned a fleet of bikes which he hired out. Was interesting to find out most off them only cost about $300 second hand and there was no agreements signed for large sums if they they were "stolen". On the bright side I meet the new police chief for the area who was trying stop the scam, he was a very tidy looking fella with quite the escort.

BTW how is it listening to dogs kill dogs and people kill dogs every night?

beefarmer
WA, 328 posts
3 Mar 2015 10:56PM
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Lombok is great. Not much wind though.

high as a kite
SA, 1312 posts
4 Mar 2015 8:18AM
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Doesn't sound to good 62.

Think I'll stay put at Putu's

tinker
8 posts
4 Mar 2015 11:00AM
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Lombok is great with strong wind regularly over 20knots July August, waters really clean, cleaner than Australian city beaches. The roads arn't crowded and easy to get around on by indo standards. Hardly a mozzie in sight during the dry/wind season aswell. The countryside is more scenic than Bali. Mataram is quite a pretty city with old growth trees through out. Get a taste of something other than Bali and you probably wouldn't go there again. There is just so much more on offer in indo than Bali.

ADS
WA, 365 posts
5 Mar 2015 10:39AM
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djt91184 said..

tinker said...
Not that Novotel but stayed in 4 others, 3 in Indo, I have been inside the lombok one when friends have stayed there. Certainly it is better than the surrounding accommodation, you would just be surprised that it is not that much better. The "private beach" is not that great because of the stupid sand they trucked in and the water is dirtier near kuta. I think if you go to Lombok to stay inside a resort, work out in the gym etc, you have really missed some really great beaches, food and locations on offer. I meet quite a few indos from Jakarata and elsewhere on holiday staying at the novotel, they had the same opinions about it as me. The Locals dont generally like it aswell because the tourist stay locked up inside. Recently the Locals destroyed a whole heap of warungs etc right on the beach in kuta because they were stopping others using the beach. As an Australian I have to agree with them, beaches should not be private.



Absolutley boss the many time I have been to kuta lombok I have never stayed there, I did eat the buffet breakfast on acouple of occasions for about 5 dollar. Most the places I stayed had the old bucket to flush the toilet. But I was doing 6 month stints with no woman or kids in my ear.



tinker said..

Not that Novotel but stayed in 4 others, 3 in Indo, I have been inside the lombok one when friends have stayed there. Certainly it is better than the surrounding accommodation, you would just be surprised that it is not that much better. The "private beach" is not that great because of the stupid sand they trucked in and the water is dirtier near kuta. I think if you go to Lombok to stay inside a resort, work out in the gym etc, you have really missed some really great beaches, food and locations on offer. I meet quite a few indos from Jakarata and elsewhere on holiday staying at the novotel, they had the same opinions about it as me. The Locals dont generally like it aswell because the tourist stay locked up inside. Recently the Locals destroyed a whole heap of warungs etc right on the beach in kuta because they were stopping others using the beach. As an Australian I have to agree with them, beaches should not be private.


Mate that's bull****e. I'm in Lombok right now on about my 10th visit. The Warungs were pulled down by the Government so the views would be better.
my friend owns one of the Warungs which the Government helped to relocate across th road.

Surfer62
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5 Mar 2015 10:45AM
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high as a kite said...
Doesn't sound to good 62.

Think I'll stay put at Putu's


Sounds like the suburb I grew up in except its got beaches, you'll be alright old fella, I'll look after ya

tinker
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5 Mar 2015 6:40PM
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I think you need to get a bit of understanding how mobs and the government work in indo. Mobs just do what ever they want once there is enough of them and they are angry enough. The Government in indo only does stuff for money.

I was only going on what the guy I trusted told me about it. An in the "know" foreign investor I meet said the government knocked it all down because some russians bought the land and are going to build a resort. Might be that the government knocked it down for the russians but told the locals that it was for them, to appease them. Not a big deal to me it looks better than before. If by the time a resort gets stuck there I'll go somewhere else.



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