Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
2008 F1 Bandet DOS
Would rather wack off with sand paper than have to use 1 again.
For me, RRD Hypertype II
I think from 2007
Flew like a 7 year old ADHD boy, hyped up on red jelly beans and fanta............and it was pink :(
Obviously you guys never tried a Slingshot Link, the kite that could not even fly without a bridle tweak released 6 months later! 
Going way back to 2000, the F-One Shadow or STW was the biggest piece of sh1t I've ever seen sold as a kite. It was a foil, that was supposed to water relaunch, but it didn't, and it was almost impossible to self launch even on land.
Peter Lynn waterfoils were pretty ordinary too. The Wipika LTR, made out of polytarp would take third place.
Select to expand quotebillykiter said..
Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
Not sure what the red thumbs are about. Do some people think the 2010 waroo is a good kite? They had a tendancy to fly towards the ground when you turn your back on them. they are the reason why the Waroo series was stopped. All the waroos before them were bloody great.
Naish Boxers ~ 2002. Thats when I first picked up the kite, only to almost loose my life.
Took me 8 years to get back on a kite after that...
Would have to be the Hellfish wouldn't it? The cuban fibre wonder that was supposed to revolutionise the world. 
It went from this:
The Best Hellfish is the best kite you will ever fly - guaranteed. One ride on a Best Hellfish will completely and utterly spoil you forever. Other kites will feel doughy, sluggish and slow in comparision. In fact traditional kites are simply obsolete. The Best Hellfish is a kite that dramatically improves upon currently available kite designs in all aspects because of Best's exclusive use of Cuben Fiber, the strongest, lightest weight sailcloth in the world. The Best Hellfish is the lightest, best performing and most aerodynamically efficient kite ever produced. The leading edge and strut diameters are up to 70% smaller while still maintaining a higher structural rigidity over traditional kites, in fact the leading edge of the Best Hellfish has the tensile strength of aluminum. Because of the advanced aerodynamics, 80% reduction in drag, 70% reduction in weight and enhanced load bearing capacity, the Best Hellfish is simply so much more powerful and responsive than a traditional kite, it is like comparing a Ferarri to a Honda.
To this:
How did the experience with the Hellfish affect Best Kiteboarding?
Well, honestly, the Hellfish was a complete disaster. Our excitement for doing something truly innovative and different and using a different material got the better of us and we released the product too soon before it was fully tested, and as everybody knows, all the Hellfishes blew up. But that said, without that experience, I don’t think Best would be where it is today, because we gave everybody who bought a Hellfish their money back, plus $100. We created tremendous brand loyalty by doing that.
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Naish Boxers ~ 2002. Thats when I first picked up the kite, only to almost loose my life.
Took me 8 years to get back on a kite after that...
and you still cant execute a proper backroll!
What about 2003 17m ocean rodeo... Never relaunched, way too high aspect. Nothing like my good old fuels!
Select to expand quotebillykiter said..billykiter said..
Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
Not sure what the red thumbs are about. Do some people think the 2010 waroo is a good kite? They had a tendancy to fly towards the ground when you turn your back on them. they are the reason why the Waroo series was stopped. All the waroos before them were bloody great.
haters gona hate!
Select to expand quoteJames01 said..
I second the Peter Lynn waterfoil.
Tough lessons learnt on that bad boi
Yep, and a 3rd vote from me.
Spent lots of time swearing at the Venom
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I second the Peter Lynn waterfoil.
Tough lessons learnt on that bad boi
5.8 PL Waterfoil in black and yellow bee colours is the only kite I have had that nearly killed me. If you have never flown one then to summarise its performance it makes any inflatable look like a kids kite. Dam thing went into a death spiral and dragged me underwater like a lure, I was had already past the point of slowly blowing the air out of my lungs and was just about to suck in a lung full of water when it decided to stop. What a savage kite that was.
Select to expand quotebillykiter said..
Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
Crikey, a real shocker?
I've got an 11m and 7m 2010 Waroo, these are the kites I learned on and find them quite fun and stable.
Admittedly I have only ever flown two other brands of kites, the 2010 Cabrinha Switchblade in 8m & 10m (fresh out of my lessons and only for a few days) and the school I learned through had Airush DNAs.
What am I missing about the Waroos?
And if I can fly these 'shocking' kites well, will I be a legend when I finally get new kites of another brand? 
I have a 2005 16m Wipika Matrix I used back in the day.....
I was over-powered at 16 knots
I was under-powered at 14 knots
..yes it has that one sweet spot at 15 knot
...I then got one of the early Switchblades and was continuously amazed
that a kite could actually have wind range, have depower and be stable...
I still have the Matrix stowed away, I don't think its right to subject
any prospective user to its charms...
Select to expand quoteoceanfire said..billykiter said..
Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
Crikey, a real shocker?
I've got an 11m and 7m 2010 Waroo, these are the kites I learned on and find them quite fun and stable.
Admittedly I have only ever flown two other brands of kites, the 2010 Cabrinha Switchblade in 8m & 10m (fresh out of my lessons and only for a few days) and the school I learned through had Airush DNAs.
What am I missing about the Waroos?
And if I can fly these 'shocking' kites well, will I be a legend when I finally get new kites of another brand?
Try a 2009 waroo and it will blow your mind compared to the 2010 model. they are probably ok to learn on but when you come to expect a great performing kite like the 2009 waroo, updating to the 2010 was a real let down. Stable is definietly not a good way to describe them. If you want a Best try a TS and you will see what stable is.
Select to expand quoteChris_M said..
For me, RRD Hypertype II
I think from 2007
Flew like a 7 year old ADHD boy, hyped up on red jelly beans and fanta............and it was pink :(
LOL. Hey that's my kite. Pink and all too! But mine is the RRD Type9.
And I reckon it's awesome on waves.
Come on give me the red-thumbs ya basturds! 
+1 on the Slingshot Link.
+1 on the Best Hellfish. ( lol -> www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Kitesurfing/General/HELLFISH-LIVES/ )
Still got a full quiver of matrix kites, I take them for a blast on the odd occasion , the 11 rips if you like power, also the Indy wasn't a bad kite, crazy power to size ratio, kites have become too easy and tame compared to some of the old gear imo
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Fluid kites.
Didnt fly too bad! They look good.
But built pretty bloody crappy.
I disagree. I've had three fluids and they have been bomb proof. Plus they have an excellent control and safety system. They are somewhat heavier than many kites but that's because the canopy is stronger. I really enjoyed them actually and miss my old 10mt Fluid
I started out years ago with a Airush ATV. Nearly killed me and put me off Airush. I then moved on to using cabrinha CO2s which were great for boosting and a lot safer.
Strutless cloud looks pretty bad if you ask me.
I bet it would tear from arsehole to breakfast time the first time you crash it too.
Select to expand quoteLoftywinds said..Ragzilla said..
Fluid kites.
Didnt fly too bad! They look good.
But built pretty bloody crappy.
I disagree. I've had three fluids and they have been bomb proof. Plus they have an excellent control and safety system. They are somewhat heavier than many kites but that's because the canopy is stronger. I really enjoyed them actually and miss my old 10mt Fluid
+1 for disagree
My 7m Fluid atv is the best kite ive owned, coupled with a slighshot control bar! the thing is un breakable. Not even a pine tree could break it!
+2 link ,
definitely the link, i was using early octanes, and was told that the link was awesome . bought one over the phone , flew it once, sent it back , what a load of snot. moved on and bought fuels
Select to expand quoteoceanfire said..billykiter said..
Reading all these comments about what people think the best kites are. I thought I would see what kites people think are cr@p.I've had a few duds over the last 10 years. One that comes to mind as a real shocker was the 2010 waroo.
Crikey, a real shocker?
I've got an 11m and 7m 2010 Waroo, these are the kites I learned on and find them quite fun and stable.
Admittedly I have only ever flown two other brands of kites, the 2010 Cabrinha Switchblade in 8m & 10m (fresh out of my lessons and only for a few days) and the school I learned through had Airush DNAs.
What am I missing about the Waroos?
And if I can fly these 'shocking' kites well, will I be a legend when I finally get new kites of another brand?
yes, you will be a legend, I rode home made boards for six months, could never land a boost, first test on a naish monarch, and I boosted every turn and came in with dry hair for the first time ever
the worst kites I had was either this 2003 19.5m Airush liftpro jellyfish or a death defying Gastra Stealth 8m that would only generate more and more forward speed
aw come on
the F1 bandit DOS was ok
just needed the strings tuned and keep an eye where it was going, constantly
was a touch twitchy at the bar
