There never was, nor will there ever be. An organised society able to countenance calmy, the individual who issits he is right. While the vast majority is absolutely wrong. Auther Miller
Well well well, the screw turns once more. I'd hoped that the "humour" categorisation may have indicated the spirit in which I intended this thread to be taken. I hoped the "if we shadows..." post would have also been something of an olive branch.
It is certainly not my intention to shame or exclude. However, plenty of folk are anything but shy when it comes to telling the likes of me to htfu. Any shaming or excluding or silencing there? Some folk just don't like to find certain boots on unfamiliar feet methinks. So it's ok to post incoherent diatribes and call me a tosser, but to be anything less than absolutely "hard," to show a nuanced sensitivity to certain issues is beyond the pale eh?
In all seriousness there have been a few posts on topics that interest me in which the grammar and spelling were so bad that I genuinely could not tell what the writer intended to say. Of course it's a web forum. Of course it would be a waste of time to worry about dotting every 'i' and crossing every 't'. Sometimes though, it does make a significant difference.
Certainly the volume, quality and occasional vehemence of responses suggest that this was a boil that needed to be lanced. Hopefully the chuckles have outnumbered the shamings.
Peace, piece and peas, dojo
The measure of success of written comunication is all about the message. ie weather wot the writer is thinking when he writes is the same as wot the reader is thinking when he reads. If it is then the message is a success.
Spellin n gramma has little to do with the likelihood of that success.
and then sometimes "the Meduim is the Message"
Marshall McClune
Personally I really like the liberation of expression this 'new age english' has given us all.
This is all very well...but C or bow? And why does the Rev2 bar suck so badly?, and how can I get sharper off the lips?
Those who write incomprehensible posts simply don't get heard because we don't know wtf they want to say. We all make the odd tpyo or spelling error, sometimes we are so burning up with passion that the ideas come out without much preparation - it is a forum after all, not an literary masterpiece or work of academic excellence. What I like is exchange of id...OMG, I am even making myself bored. U get the point.
Sharper off the lips?
Little Red Riding Hood went to Grammer's (sic) house, where she received a lesson in how to spell 'grammar'.
I ment hippo as in hippopotumus or that big fat thing that wollows in mud from Africa - have you seen Poor Relatives avitar? Thats what i mean.
Langwach kontanes enuf redundansee two maik evin v mowsd appawlink spelar intellygabull.
Eye sore a sine ona kar lust wiik thut sayd:
"4. SELE"
iz ez! kar iz brokin douwen & ohnur nids a leeft.
Sandgroper, I agree absolutely that language does indeed contain enough redundancy that the intended meaning is easy to perceive even with considerable adjustments to spelling.
However, when you throw grammatical confusion into the mix, even well-spelled and technically well-formed sentences can be ambiguous:
Investigating investigators can be dangerous.
Therein lies the potential for beauty, confusion and humour that makes language complex. It is sometimes enough to have a single, literal meaning, as in the instructions to program your video. On other occasions though, language can and may as well be a source of pleasure in its form as well as its content (and yes, video-programming instructions often have their inadvertent charms).
As an analogy, two kiters each do a big jump with a late and cranking kiteloop thrown in. In terms of a mono-dimensional expression they have each done - and we might also say "expressed" - the same thing. Yet what if one of them does this with elegance, flair and power, the other with jerky, cumbersome awkwardness.
The difference is style, and it is a difference that, whether in language or kiting, may be the source of much enjoyment and wonder.
Ok, I should come clean. I'm glad this thread has been popular, hotly-contested, and may have drawn out some otherwise reticent posters. But my main purpose has not yet been achieved.
I was actually hoping that a bunch of you would look up my profile (out of curiousity or a desire to incriminate me) and see that I have some lovely crossbow 3s for sale and make me some decent offers.
Anyone, somebody, hey, where'd you all go? Come back, they're in great condition. Think of the windrange, do it for the children.
Hmmff. Back to the drawing board. Adios.
You tricky trickster. Well may your thread contain pretty prose, but the marketing mission in your advertisements is the same stuff as so many other offloaders. "Huge wind range" indeed? Might I suggest, in your return to the drawing board, that in light of the current financial upheaval potential purchasers may be less keen to part with their pennies. In an active marketplace there is one surefire way to move goods, as far as I can tell, and that is to give more value than other vendors. Money talks my friend, and if it is a buyers market then the seller must accommodate.
(BTW - I am about to seal a deal tonight on the best bit of bargaining I've ever done, oh joyous rapture!)
At the risk of becoming the boy who cried wolf, I should moderate my last post and say that I did start this thread with relatively pure intentions. It was only when it grew so big so quickly that I, like a crack-head rockstar, thought I might cash in on my notoriety. I realise it was a heinous ruse and I am slightly repentant. To show just how slightly repentant, and just how willing I am to accommodate the buyer, I have included an "or best offer" in my ads. Will also trade with appropriate cash adjustment for faster-turning un-hookable kites in good condition. The line between buying and selling has never been so blurred.