Cabrinha double agent

Lf fuselage is a solid machined piece.not a hole after that bending useless ur 150kg on a 17m kite riding it into sand bar : )

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speedy87 said..
Lf fuselage is a solid machined piece.not a hole after that bending useless ur 150kg on a 17m kite riding it into sand bar : )

If it is a solid machined piece then why does it have plastic caps on both ends?

No Ye guys are rite it is hallow.anyway I've made one from aluminium and mine is also hollow with a 3mm wall and I've learned on it,gave it so much abuse and been riding almost 2 months now and can tell Ye,it ain't bending anywhere

All the posts from people who have never foiled are funny.

I'd like to clear up a few things for those thinking about purchasing a cheaper foil, from any brand.

I've only owned the LF FF, and mate already has the double agent which looks just as good.

I've had my LF FF for almost a year, (since the day they arrived at shop). Has increased my kiteable days to anything above 11knots.

I still prefer strong winds and freestyle.
But it's nice to be able to go for a kite after work on those 12knot days and still do backrolls etc.

I'm over 100kg, no signs of bending... The strut has two circular sections that run the length and also a few more stringers. (It's really strong).

After a year, I'm ready to go faster.
So I'm now upgrading to faster foils.

But geeez the foil fish was good for learning, robust and most importantly fun.

I've also tried foil fish with faster front wing, it made it too fast for learning.

You can go out and buy a really fast foil straight away but it's actually prob going to make learning harder, or at least your crashes spectacular.

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speedy87 said...
Are u talking about the fuselage?the bottom piece that the wings bolts on too?im a boilermaker and just made it all from aluminium lying around d workshop.it just normal allu as I wanted it quick and couldn't mate for marine grade plus I didn't think it would work as good

Speedy I'm a contract welder and am impressed by your work, Cab should get you making theirs. Same style but you would improve their quality.
At least you can repair yours yourself when the ally cracks at those welds.

Ok so just to confirm.liquid force fuselage is in fact a solid machined piece,why?because after taking one apart today it is clear to see it is not hollow.no1.the mounting bolts are counter sunk that run rite through the other side to the mast.2. The 5 hole are drilled and tapped where the wings bolt on.as for the plastic capped ends well my guess is that when u crash it hard of reef or whatever u can take them off and get replacement ones instead of having to replace the whole fuselage = pritty clever idea

This is an awesome video of the "double agent"

The wings are the weakest part, and the first thing to make contact if you hit the bottom. (On any hydrofoil).

In my personal experience it's easier and cheaper to start on a entry level foil. (Like the "double agent" or the "foil fish").

Once you have it mastered you can sell to a mate and upgrade to something more expensive.

^^^^^^^^righto^^^^^^^^^

Cheaper foils like the LF FF And double agent are also cheaper if you have to repair any damage.

I've had friends who learnt on expensive carbon foils, and repairs are extremely costly. They have commented to me that they wish they started on something cheaper.

I can't help but feel like your "investigations" are no match for actual experience of myself and other Melbourne based crew.

Maybe you could contribute by adding said information instead of just making a statement with little logic.

What's foils have you tried?
What's foils have you bought?
Can you even foil?

I know cheaper foils out there, infact a good mate built several himself for the cost of alloy and his time.

COST vs PERFORMANCE when it comes to foils, need to find your own balance point.

So you haven't tried any foils?

I'd like to try the other foils you mentioned, but Unlikely to get a chance unless maybe at event or something.

I hit a square edge bunker in Hawaii, it's destroys every foil that hits it. $50 and some beers and it was fixed overnight.

I'm looking forward to trying next years Liquid force offerings.

The profiles and wing shapes look faster, the boards lighter.
All steps in the right direction.

The alpine and zeeko foils would also be awesome to try and compare.

It will be interesting to see how available new foils actually are, hopefully before Christmas.

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polykarb said..
So you haven't tried any foils?

I'd like to try the other foils you mentioned, but Unlikely to get a chance unless maybe at event or something.

Yes, very VERY limited selection of foils I could possibly have the opportunity to try: North, Levitaz, Lift, and the Slingshot Alien Air/Lift that I popped my cherry on. All out of my price range. When/if I buy, it'll be sight unseen and so:

First, I checked the prices...
Then, I checked the reviews.

And so I have come to the conclusion that the LF Fish is not as cheap as it appears (because the price on web stores is for the foil only, the board is another $500 or so) and most people outgrow its performance. Sounds like the same goes for the DA but the board looks better on its own.

It's a shame, cos I have zero desire to race and would be happy putting around slowly trying tricks on a solid board and foil, but I think neither LF nor Cab are good value.

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flyingcab said..
Just don't buy the board and bolt it to an eski lid. If you are good it won't be toughing the water anyways

Then the price vs. performance makes it expensive

Finally received our orders!

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Percvil said..
I've ridden my double agent over the weekend...

the first hours was me hobby horsing on and off the foil with some spectacular crashes

but the board was forgiving and soon after i was riding well (could stay on the foil both tacks and run down wind a little bit)...

Nice one. I notice you configured the foot straps 3 in a Y. Now that you have worked it out, do you reckon the Y config helped much or would it be fine just using 2 inline. (just waiting for a opportunity to try mine out.)