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anyone waveride with kite bigger then 12m ???

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Created by truster > 9 months ago, 14 Apr 2012
truster
WA, 83 posts
14 Apr 2012 9:58AM
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Have been kite surfing using the ozone reo 12m ,in abut 13knot cross off wind, over head high quality wave, successfully.
Did anyone ride waves with anything bigger?
Which brands will be suitable (ozone reo isn't eveliable bigger then 12m)

surfingboye
NSW, 2707 posts
14 Apr 2012 12:25PM
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I don't reckon flying a kite bigger than 12m, in the waves, would be any fun at all.
You live in WA, be patient and wait for the wind. lol.

[}:)]

radman4
678 posts
14 Apr 2012 1:35PM
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Have got a Fury light 15m on order should be in in the next few weeks and am hangin out to try it in the surf,its the smallest of the Light series but if its anything like the 11m it should have a serious low end,will let u know if it was worth getting.

Jedibrad
NSW, 527 posts
14 Apr 2012 6:25PM
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the magic word was 'off'

any kite will work with a bit of 'off'

i'd sell my spare kidney for a bit of 'off'

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
14 Apr 2012 6:33PM
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My view is if you need something bigger than a 12m in the waves and you are under 100kgs, then be prepared to replace your kite a few times a season, when you drop it in light winds, any kite is harder to launch. Even the Hellfish.
1 or 2 waves hitting the kite with no relaunch = ripped kite or snapped lines and line entaglement. Unless your lucky.

My largest kite is a 10m, and if i cant use it in the surf, then i just go for a surf or go home.

Mikedobee
NSW, 331 posts
14 Apr 2012 9:33PM
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17 meters Griffin Argonaut 2012. Rode it last long weekend in Tuross Head NSW in probably 14 -17 knots. Crashed it twice, but got it up again. Also didn't inflate it more than 6 psi, cause in case it gets washing machine in the waves the bladder has heaps of pressure left to absorb.

Mikedobee
NSW, 331 posts
14 Apr 2012 9:34PM
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Although after 1 hour the wind picked up like crazy and I had to pull out my 10 meters Rally and freeze the hell :)

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
14 Apr 2012 10:13PM
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Mikedobee said...

17 meters Griffin Argonaut 2012. Rode it last long weekend in Tuross Head NSW in probably 14 -17 knots. Crashed it twice, but got it up again. Also didn't inflate it more than 6 psi, cause in case it gets washing machine in the waves the bladder has heaps of pressure left to absorb.


14 to 17 knots,,,surely a 12m would have done the job in 15knot winds, 14m if ya a bit on the heavey side. 17m is one hell of a tank to be trying to ride waves with when a smaller kite would do the job?
Most of us around here are up and riding in 15knots on our 10m.

Mikedobee
NSW, 331 posts
14 Apr 2012 10:22PM
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Not this kite. It's pretty fast. I couldn't believe it until I actually tried it myself. I am really happy with it and don't feel overpowered, unless is over 18-20 knots.



lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
14 Apr 2012 10:27PM
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but why fly a 17m when a smaller kite,12m, can get you powered enough?
or is the low end of the 17m not that good?

Plummet
4862 posts
15 Apr 2012 4:08AM
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i've got a 13m edge and a 15m flysurfer speed 3 i use in the waves.

Tbh they are both pretty insanely bad in the waves. the speed is worst and the edge only marginally better. They don't kite going down wind down the line. but going upwind riding the wave is all on and very nice glides off the wave lips on teh wway out.

truster
WA, 83 posts
15 Apr 2012 9:11AM
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radman4 said...

Have got a Fury light 15m on order should be in in the next few weeks and am hangin out to try it in the surf,its the smallest of the Light series but if its anything like the 11m it should have a serious low end,will let u know if it was worth getting.





what is FURY LIGHT 15M ?

radman4
678 posts
15 Apr 2012 5:31PM
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Its one of the new 2012 Peter Lynn inflatable lightwind specific kites,have ridden the 9 and 11 fury quite a few times and they are real light and agile in the surf with a huge low end so am keen to try the 15 they also do a 17 and 19in the light series but prob overkill for around here ,i'm only interested in a 9-12 knot surf kite so hope it fits the bill.

GriffinKites
NSW, 201 posts
16 Apr 2012 1:59AM
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I designed a light wind specific wave kite, only had it for a few weeks, only 1 in Australia, Is a lot if fun from 8+ knots on a smaller 5ft3 surfboard 87kg rider, and is doable in less winds with larger boards or longer lines.

It feels light on the bar and light to turn, it drifts nicely, its fast enough and depowers enough to enjoy the wave without pulling you off.

Below video shot in about 6-7 knots, medium 53 cm bar
Kite was on the medium turning setting. Lines were 25m
Kite is designed for 25m lines for surf with a normal medium bar,

Sorry for the sucky video, the 17m has only been in Australia for a few weeks and I have been busy flying it, not filming it. Video was shot just to show the turning speed. 3 strut light 17m not high aspect designed to turn, drift, depower and feel light and fast and go upwind and relaunch easily in light winds.

radman4
678 posts
16 Apr 2012 6:21AM
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Looks good chris will have to get one on my next order
Had the 14TRX out on sat in 9-12 on 24m went well, surf was o/head pity wind was so light but managed to keep up with a 17 zeph.
Would of been a majic session had it of been a couple more knots,17 TRX would of rocked

Mikedobee
NSW, 331 posts
16 Apr 2012 9:46AM
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Because I don't want to spend the money on another kite, but I also want to be on the water when I have only 8 knots. So the answer would be to cover as much wind as possible with a 10 and with a 17

lotofwind said...

but why fly a 17m when a smaller kite,12m, can get you powered enough?
or is the low end of the 17m not that good?




Plummet
4862 posts
16 Apr 2012 8:12AM
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GriffinKites said...

I designed a light wind specific wave kite, only had it for a few weeks, only 1 in Australia, Is a lot if fun from 8+ knots on a smaller 5ft3 surfboard 87kg rider, and is doable in less winds with larger boards or longer lines.

It feels light on the bar and light to turn, it drifts nicely, its fast enough and depowers enough to enjoy the wave without pulling you off.

Below video shot in about 6-7 knots, medium 53 cm bar
Kite was on the medium turning setting. Lines were 25m
Kite is designed for 25m lines for surf with a normal medium bar,

Sorry for the sucky video, the 17m has only been in Australia for a few weeks and I have been busy flying it, not filming it. Video was shot just to show the turning speed. 3 strut light 17m not high aspect designed to turn, drift, depower and feel light and fast and go upwind and relaunch easily in light winds.




hahaha. i like the end of that vid. feels like a 12... turns like a 12.... maybe its is a 12 with a 17 sticker.

GriffinKites
NSW, 201 posts
16 Apr 2012 11:06AM
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hahahah, yeah it feels like a 12m because its light on the bar and turning, that gets you going in 8 knots and is fun in 8 knots.


Plummet said...

GriffinKites said...

I designed a light wind specific wave kite, only had it for a few weeks, only 1 in Australia, Is a lot if fun from 8+ knots on a smaller 5ft3 surfboard 87kg rider, and is doable in less winds with larger boards or longer lines.

It feels light on the bar and light to turn, it drifts nicely, its fast enough and depowers enough to enjoy the wave without pulling you off.

Below video shot in about 6-7 knots, medium 53 cm bar
Kite was on the medium turning setting. Lines were 25m
Kite is designed for 25m lines for surf with a normal medium bar,

Sorry for the sucky video, the 17m has only been in Australia for a few weeks and I have been busy flying it, not filming it. Video was shot just to show the turning speed. 3 strut light 17m not high aspect designed to turn, drift, depower and feel light and fast and go upwind and relaunch easily in light winds.




hahaha. i like the end of that vid. feels like a 12... turns like a 12.... maybe its is a 12 with a 17 sticker.




GriffinKites
NSW, 201 posts
16 Apr 2012 11:24AM
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Plummet said...

hahaha. i like the end of that vid. feels like a 12... turns like a 12.... maybe its is a 12 with a 17 sticker.



Re the kite sizing

the 17m is a true 17m size, not a 16 or 14 with 17m printed on it

Area (sqm) 17
Aspect Ratio 4.3
Flat area: 17.000 sqm

I know some brands are doing some weird sizing, 8m the size of 10m etc, I don't do that, I print the size of the kite on the kite.


Berg K1t3r
QLD, 106 posts
16 Apr 2012 2:57PM
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Anyone sick of griffin pimping their rubbish everywhere? while i appreciate the effort theyre putting in to getting their product out there....where do you draw the line?

GriffinKites
NSW, 201 posts
16 Apr 2012 3:33PM
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Sorry, I am replying to posts and questions. People are asking for genuine info, or making flaming comments.

The topic was about wave riding with large than a 12m.

A 17m wave friendly kite sounded relevant.

I am not sure if there are any large wave friendy branded kites out there, most large kites are high aspect designs for racing, not good for turning drift or waves.

how about some other brands shops or team riders post something about there light wind wave kites, it would be good to hear from some other brands.

Apologies for all the griffin posts, I promise that i am not asking riders to pimp and spam the forum. This is not part of any marketing hype campaign. no one likes spammers, other brands have done this and it just makes people dislike them. I think the replies have been legit and honest replies to relevant questions.



toppleover
QLD, 2043 posts
16 Apr 2012 7:59PM
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When will demo's be available? and what size to take at 75kg??

16 Apr 2012 8:00PM
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truster said...

Have been kite surfing using the ozone reo 12m ,in abut 13knot cross off wind, over head high quality wave, successfully.
Did anyone ride waves with anything bigger?
Which brands will be suitable (ozone reo isn't eveliable bigger then 12m)



The Ozone Catalyst is an excellent wave kite, comes in 14M (and 12/10/8/6/4), drifts really well and turns tight even when the riding it in down the line and it hooks upwind well too. Another Ozone option is the 15M and 13M C4's

Subculture
443 posts
16 Apr 2012 6:32PM
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Berg K1t3r said...

Anyone sick of griffin pimping their rubbish everywhere? while i appreciate the effort theyre putting in to getting their product out there....where do you draw the line?


I notice you got the red thumbs of death - for what I consider pretty fair comment...
Interesting - Griffin don't sponsor the site, but they, or their 'agents' are constantly allowed to pimp/advertise their products here???
If any 'normal' member posts anything that is considered advertising, another member can red flag the post under the 'advertising' heading immediately...

Does anyone else think this is fair/right? Moderators?

lotofwind
NSW, 6451 posts
16 Apr 2012 9:10PM
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^^^^Agreed, how many threads have they posted the 17m vid in??
Makes you wonder why they feel so desperate and pimp so hard ???
If they are that good,surely they wouldnt need the bs?
Feel sorry for the newbies that dont realise the bs hype that goes on in the "reveiw" forum,,,,,, maybe thats there market? and ebay with all their last years range

kyteryder
NSW, 692 posts
16 Apr 2012 10:03PM
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lotofwind said...

^^^^Agreed, how many threads have they posted the 17m vid in??
Makes you wonder why they feel so desperate and pimp so hard ???
If they are that good,surely they wouldnt need the bs?
Feel sorry for the newbies that dont realise the bs hype that goes on in the "reveiw" forum,,,,,, maybe thats there market? and ebay with all their last years range



This time of the year is for the larger kites. (March to June)
Winter season is for the storm size kites.




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