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Illegal?

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Created by THETURTLE > 9 months ago, 22 Nov 2016
THETURTLE
QLD, 12 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:51PM
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Hey guys haven't been on in yonks since my phone went swimming at Airlie beach race week. But just wondering if anyone has had any trouble with police for driving an LY on a road or public beach if so what are the Consequences??? Many thanks . Jk

sn
WA, 2775 posts
22 Nov 2016 9:16PM
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I had one of my best runs in my Lefroy mini, on Hepburn Avenue [northern suburbs of Perth] a few years ago.

The stretch of road had only just been finished, and wasn't yet [officially] open to traffic.

I was clocked at a bit over 80 klicks by the security blokes in their ute - and Mr Plod was waiting down the road [not for me - for hoons]

Only problem I had was getting the Senior Connie out of the landyacht.
The security blokes and the younger constable reckoned he was having too much fun.

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One of our W.A. land yachters transports his L.Y. by hanging it on the back of his ute via a bracket on the towbar.
He used to remove his number plate from the ute and hang it on the L.Y. so it wasn't obscured [an offence here]

When we found out you can have auxiliary plates issued by the transport dept., Chook got one and bolted it on the landyacht permanently.
It saved his neck when a council ranger was about to book him for unlicensed vehicle on a public beach.
Ranger didn't twig that the L.Y. plate was the same number as the ute.

Chook got to keep happily sailing on the beach with his kinda-sorta licensed landyacht

THETURTLE
QLD, 12 posts
23 Nov 2016 7:07AM
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Haha that's crazy I wish the cops were that chilled out up here same story as you with the road though there is a newly laid road about ten minutes from where I live right on the foreshore and it looks superb hehe might have to look into the regestering though try and get a set of plate to match the car or even just throw an old set I have on it thanks for the reply Jk

sn
WA, 2775 posts
23 Nov 2016 6:21PM
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We call them auxiliary plates in W.A., you call them accessory plates in QLD.

They are intended for hooking on to bike racks, wheelchair racks and the like which obstruct the rear number plate on your vehicle.

The bike / wheelchair or landyacht are not actually licensed - they just happen to have a miniature copy of the car's rego. plate hanging on them.

I wouldn't bung second hand plates on the landyacht - that shows "intent" - an accessory plate just show you are being a good boy, and if the council ranger gets confused, well, it isn't your fault.


www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/formsdat.nsf/forms/QF3540/$file/F3540_CFD.pdf


stephen

THETURTLE
QLD, 12 posts
23 Nov 2016 10:39PM
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Ahhh okay that makes a bit more sense Ahha thanks for that. So it's okay to tow one of these behind a car without too much drama either? That would be damn useful instead of lifting it onto trailers and what not. I've had another search on the interwebs and can't find any reason for it being illegal on a road other than the fact you don't have the ability to power out of a possible accident or anything. But can't see how it would be too different to a bike or skateboard(especially because they have no breaks)other than it being bigger and powered by wind... Seems like a bit of a grey area of the law hehe guess there's one way to find out for sure though ;) Also what do we think of version 15 of the land yacht? More rake in mast step new steering and finally a set of proper seat mounts ahah

Many thanks JK

sn
WA, 2775 posts
24 Nov 2016 5:49PM
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I think you might need to have a chat with your local transport department fellas.

It might be possible to license your landyacht as a trailer,

But you would need tail lights and indicators, mudguards, and a detachable tow hitch of some type.

Decent bearings - and road use rated tyres too.

Not impossible - but not exactly "off the shelf"

THETURTLE
QLD, 12 posts
28 Nov 2016 5:23PM
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Hmm yeah okay maybe not then ahah sounds like even more work than throwing it on the trailer ready to go if I'd have to swap wheels and throw lights on the thing ah well maybe I'll find a quick easy way to landyacht one day haha. It wasn't meant to be easy!! Thanks for the replies btw . Jk

sn
WA, 2775 posts
28 Nov 2016 7:25PM
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If you are only travelling shortish distances and the speed can be kept reasonable, [due to no suspension] it would be do-able.

- The tow hitch could be clamped on to the front of the chassis tube.

- Swapping rear wheels is a doddle if you follow the principle of the "Lake Lefroy Mini" plans - each rear axle assembly unplugs from the chassis and is secured by a spring clip or single bolt.


Knocking up a spare set of rear axles, with hubs, wheels, mudguards and lights ready for towing duty would be pretty simple.

- Salvage a pair of rear hubs/wheels from a wrecked front wheel drive car, [old Suzuki hatch?]

- Some FWD cars have rear hubs held on by 4 bolts + the brake cable and hose, strip out the brakes to lose weight.

- Use the brake backing plate as a mounting point for the mudguards [plastic cut from the side of a drum?]



www.support.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/formsdat.nsf/forms/QF3970/$file/F3970_CFD.pdf


As long as your landyacht is 2.5m or less in width - you could probably register it as a "boat [landyacht] trailer"

Worth asking at your local transport office!


stephen

THETURTLE
QLD, 12 posts
1 Dec 2016 12:48AM
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Ah well I might have a chat to the transport guys when I do my Ps in a couple of weeks see what they say about throwing a hitch on it hehe thanks again for that one mate . Jk

sn
WA, 2775 posts
1 Dec 2016 6:26PM
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The blokes you need to speak with are the ones who do the vehicle examinations.

All you are doing is asking for guidelines for the the construction of a registerable lightweight boat [landyacht] trailer - that can be broken down for off road use by having detachable rear axles and tow hitch.

The tow hitch could also be attached in the same way as the rear axles - secured with a single bolt.

All up "on-road" weight should be well under 100kg.

The heaviest items would be the rear wheels and hubs.

Take a drawing of what you intend - with dimensions that fit within the limits shown in the transport department application form.

They should be able to steer you in the right direction.

Keep us posted!



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