Hey guys,
I was wondering if you could send me a link to wheels that are good to use on a Lefroy Land Yacht, I'm not sure what wheels i should go for and if you guys could send me a link for a website to buy some that would be good. I will be using it on beaches and not firm lakes. I would also like to keep the cost relatively low.
I was also wondering what size sail/mast I should go for?
I look forward to hearing back from someone :)
Gidday Andrew,
The best wheel is the FALLSHAW plastic wheel, made here in Australia.
They are practically indestructible, and cheaper than the rubbish from Bunnings and such places.
There are a few landyachting blokes in S.A. that will chime in with your local supplier.
Here in W.A. the distributor for FALLSHAW is good enough to cut a special price for the wheels-tyres-tubes-bearings and adaptors.
IIRC, the last time I bought a set of 3, the all up cost was $104? including tax.
As for masts and sails - pick up anything you can to start with - hit your local recycling centres and second hand shops.
stephen
Cheapest sail cost about $15-$20 depending where you source your materials. 1 Micron Black plastic bought from Hardware supply shop and some fabric tape. Plywood battens held in with some cable ties and plywood pieces glued to the head tack and clew and you will have a cheap sail (not high performance) to get started. This sail was good for 56.3kph and didn't blow apart to my surprise. Will post and article soon in sailmaking.
Ben.
Most of your questions are answered here.
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Build-a-Landyacht-Lake-Lefroy-Mini-Yacht/
Add yor post code to find out where you can get the Fallshaw wheels.www.fallshaw.com.au/where_to_buy
Yes you can get wheels for a few $$$ cheaper at 'Bumblings' but they are likely to fail so its better to get the right ones first....It's cheaper in the long run because if /when you build another yacht just swap them to the new yacht,
Hey, I got onto The fallshaw website but I wasn't sure which tread,wheel type, bearings and so forth I should get? The there were also two types of wheels and they were made to never exceed such low speeds. I was wondering if you could help me out in selecting the right wheel. :)
As Gizmo posted:- www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Land-Yacht-Sailing/Construction/Build-a-Landyacht-Lake-Lefroy-Mini-Yacht/
Please read before asking more questions!
wheel 1 Fallshaw 4.00x8. steel. fitted with 20mm ID precision bearings. heaviest wheel in photo. Also available with2"/1" wheelbarrow bearings(2/1WBB) Rated Excellent
Wheel 2 Fallshaw polypropylene 20mm ID precision bearing. also available with 2/1WBB Rated Excellent
Wheel 3 Wheel ProductsS.A. steel with 2/1WBB. this wheel first used in 1985. and was fitted to cl 5 yacht in 1st place at 1986 Pacrim NZ. wheel still in use rated Good
wheel 4 Polyplastics W.A. Polypropylene with 2/1WBB. Rated Good
Wheel 5 Experimental polycarbonate/ABS wheels by Poly Plastics W.A. wheels tend to explode But I would like to thank the company for being willing to do the experiment at their own cost .. modified and fitted with 20mm ID precision bearings
Don't bother with steel wheels - they don't last.
The plastic [polypropylene] Fallshaw 4" x 8" wheels come complete with knobbly tyres. These tyres are fine to start with,
When they wear down on one side due to the wheels being on a camber - you turn the wheel around and use the other side.
Once they are truly knackered and showing canvas- you replace the knobbly tyres with ribbed tyres from Mullins wheels.
Some plane off the knobbly tread on the original tyres for higher performance, but the way I see it - why waste good rubber when you are starting out - and not racing.
The Fallshaw plastic wheels are only rated as wheelbarrow wheels - but don't worry - they cope with well over 100kph speeds while carrying big heavy blokes on salt lakes in high temperatures.
When you get your wheels -ask for the adaptors and the 20mm sealed bearings instead of the pressed steel regular wheelbarrow bearings.
While you are at the Fallshaw distributor's shop - get the plastic 20mm I.D. steering bushes. they are only a couple of dollars and make life much easier during construction.
stephen
OK Andrew
You are in SA and I am in Tassie. I am not quite sure how to deal with my 2 LY's as I have to get rid of them now. There are 3 or 4 sails and some damned good wheels etc on them. I have hardly eve sailed Schrodinger's Cat and Occum's RAzor is in pretty good nick as well. Trouble is getting them to Melbourne but then I may be able to work a shoofty with a bloke I know.
Ron
You need "Fallshaw" 400 x 8 KNO rim and tyre, with 2 PWB10 black adapters, to take 2 of 6004 rubber seal (20mm), high speed bearings.
All times 3.
I get mine from, http://staging.easyrollmh.com.au/wheels-castors/pneumatics/plastic-pneumatics/
The very bottom of the page for rim/tyre, across for bush PWB10 and with the second line down of the bearings 107mm x 20mm, for 20mm axle shaft.
Don't worry about their speed rating they are really well balanced and have been pushed to over 100kmh.
Hope this helps Andrew. Yell out if you get stuck.
