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Must be nuts ,here we go again

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Created by aus230 > 9 months ago, 4 Dec 2015
searunner
64 posts
1 Jan 2016 10:32AM
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aus230 said..
Thanks, the mast is hollow. Happy New Year everyone


Happy New Year!


The mast is four pieces? How did you get the rounded shape? Glued with wood glue?


Sylk
WA, 215 posts
1 Jan 2016 5:54PM
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Vic

What are the specs on the wheels?
Any thoughts on how they might go on a class 5?

sn
WA, 2775 posts
1 Jan 2016 6:01PM
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Hey Vic,
what do you reckon - wood spoked wheels, based on something like these wheels - but using fat bicycle rims, or motorcycle rims as donors?
Trailer hubs and bearings?


stephen

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
1 Jan 2016 10:14PM
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The mast, 4 pieces epoxy resin and micro fiber glued , Rough rounding with a plane and then used a spoke shave to finish.

This you tube shows how to make it round



I think the wheels would be a bit heavy for a class5.

Wooden wheels, i think they would look great, why not give them a try.

searunner
64 posts
2 Jan 2016 1:29AM
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Very cool, nice work, microfiber is a new one on me. Makes sense. Epoxy is the way to go.

Working with wood like that is so satisfying. I just love taking long shavings off with a plane.



All I can say about wood wheels - that work - is that you guys would be doing some impressive woodworking there.

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
2 Jan 2016 5:15PM
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The steering looks OK. Must have been little guys. think I will have to move the seat back a couple of inches

Started to make the gaff and boom, gaff is huge 14 foot long,boom is 10 foot

Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
2 Jan 2016 10:02PM
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Gee I hope this is right. The sail I made looks exactly like the diagram you sent me below. With eyelets every 10".

The triangle out of the bottom was 2' high by 1 foot long.

I really don't understand the rig at all mate. 14' plus the 2' and 10' plus the 1 foot.



aus230
WA, 1659 posts
2 Jan 2016 10:18PM
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It is spot on , Chook. It is a strange (to me anyhow) setup. That is half the fun trying to figure it all out. The whole thing has been a challenge for this old guy who spent his working boring holes underground. Had to learn everything as I go.


The gaff starts 2 foot up the mast and the boom at 1 foot mark something like this but the gaff is longer and at a steeper angle






Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
3 Jan 2016 7:36AM
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So you lash the sail to the gaff and boom and use the halyard to erect it.

Makes sense now.

Thanks Vic.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
3 Jan 2016 6:54PM
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what you have is a variation on a lug sail . fishing boat sails evolved from lug sails(with a gaff and no boom up to gaff sails for bigger sails and more contrrol of the bigger sails. what you have is a variation of the 2 with a steep gaff to give upwind ability. this evolved into the gunter rig. think mirror dinghy. the beauty of these rigs is the large sail area possible with only small light spars and minimal pulleys,and uncomplicated sheeting as per fishing rigs. eventually with the introduction of marine glues and then aluminium it all evelves into the marconi rig , which you all sail today. if you can find a rare book 101 sailing rigs by phillip Bolger . bolger is the jesus of small sailing rigs

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
5 Jan 2016 8:23AM
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Bit more progress, now working on the boom mast and gaff.








landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
5 Jan 2016 4:25PM
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oh to be retired with a shed and all my faculties

Gizmo
SA, 2865 posts
5 Jan 2016 7:13PM
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^^^^ Sorry Paul, but in your case one out of three aint bad.......

Test pilot 1
WA, 1430 posts
5 Jan 2016 7:40PM
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Yeah, 'e's got a shed!

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
9 Jan 2016 7:17PM
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Getting down to fitting everything
And one for you Chook







desertyank
1262 posts
10 Jan 2016 9:15AM
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Fantastic work!!

Do the 2 plates in the rear of the yacht (the ones holding the steering) flex under load?

searunner
64 posts
10 Jan 2016 11:55AM
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Well it looks great and like it wants to fly. It's something to crow about. It really struts it's stuff. Ummmm.....no fowl work there. Ahhh.....ok I'll stop now!

Excellent.

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
10 Jan 2016 8:34PM
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I don't think the plate will flex, I think the yacht may be a bit of a bone shaker,

harleyd
183 posts
11 Jan 2016 10:40AM
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Looks like you guys never stop! Don't know if you remember me...
Wanted for you to check out my new build


Google .. Educational Tallship San Francisco... I'm volunteering to hep build...I've had some great times on my mini! Holley Mosley!

sn
WA, 2775 posts
11 Jan 2016 7:11PM
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^

Jeez, I know Fallshaw's are the ducks guts, but even they will be struggling under your new project!


stephen

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
15 Jan 2016 7:52AM
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Sail went on great Chook, Thanks again. I think I may have to fit an extension to take the front stay, or make a heavier mast it is bending back to much on down haul.





aus230
WA, 1659 posts
26 Jan 2016 4:29PM
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The Bleriot was just great to sail, Trav Jodie and myself spent a few hours sailing it at Lake Lefroy, very hard to explain the feeling, I think it felt like a step back it time a bit nostalgic, Just love it











Chook2
WA, 1244 posts
28 Jan 2016 7:52PM
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Vic that looks SENSATIONAL !!!!!!!!

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
28 Jan 2016 8:26PM
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dang Vic ,looking great. how did the 17mm axles go. they tell me you had a great time with the film crew

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
28 Jan 2016 9:57PM
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I think the axle will be fine, I was surprised how gentle it was to sail. Not sure if I would take it out in strong winds, Having two up made no difference to rolling.

I think it could become my favorite yacht. Just drop the gaff at the end of the day, and run a bit of rope around the sail and leave, about one minute to hoist sail for next run.

Steering was perfect, steered the RIGHT way. Perfect yacht for just cruising around.

A few small things to finish off and change, can not wait to sail it again.

The sail was perfect Chook, rope lashed it to the boom and gaff after these pics were taken and got a great sail shape.

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
29 Jan 2016 8:04PM
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looks like it might be nice and clean to sail as well. the whole yacht just looks right

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
29 Jan 2016 8:13PM
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I mentioned a couple of posts that I thought the mast bent to much, When stationary and pulling down on the back of the boom that appears to be a problem, But there was no sign of that when sailing, so I think it was only that the fulcrum was to great with me pushing down on the end of the boom and applying to much force where the boom meets the mast

landyacht
WA, 5921 posts
29 Jan 2016 8:33PM
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that would make sense vic , my schooner bbom almost floats on the mast. next time we see each other i'll help you set up some topping lifts . they will set the sail perfectly

aus230
WA, 1659 posts
29 Jan 2016 8:44PM
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maybe I need a hair cut



aus230
WA, 1659 posts
3 Feb 2016 10:05PM
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Could not handle the look of the low bar work on the front axle, Rebuilt it today, and started to finish of some of the parts that I did not have time to finish before going to Lake Lefroy, Attachments for sheeting and varnishing the mast boom and gaff



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